H and safety

[drzing]

Greetings!

I am going out in vacations to a country where weed is decriminalized and I know I may find some Heroin on my way.

I am not looking to mainline it, but I wanted to try it for the first time in life, and I want to be on the safe side, how should I proceed?

I thought about intranasal use, or vaporizing.

I already have had experiences with IV opiates in hospital, and oral morphine, but right now my tolerance is ZERO.

I wonder if I can ask for dosage advice, please let me know how can I start it safely.

Is there anything else I am supposed to know about Heroin?
I already know how good opiates can feel, I am not opiate naive.

Thanks,


DRZ

 

[DynoSpec]

you should check out the heroin megathread, its od but you can search it too, id link it but im too tired

 

[Fornax55]

dosage, as with any drug, will differ depending on your size and tolerance to opiates.
if i were you, i'd smoke(vaporize) the stuff if you come across it.

my favourite method is to make a mini vaporizer.
take a 1L soda bottle and cut the top off of it so you have a funnel-shaped piece of plastic. place this on top of a piece of tin foil large enough to cover a bit of the sides, so no smoke comes out, and voila.

drop a piece of heroin on the tinfoil and hold a lighter underneath, inhaling the fumes through the hole in the top of the bottle where you'd normally drink though. this way you'll easily be able to regulate how much you smoke to make sure you won't od.

 

[psykoman]

or you cud just chase the dragon with the foil??

 

[DynoSpec]

i think he'll be in europe, i might be wrong but i thought you needed to add caffeine to most of the heroin there to smoke it

 

[drzing]

Thanks for the posts guys, not europe BTW. Not US. Nowhere. lol.


DRZ

 

[DavisK4high247]

depends on whether it;s #3 or #4 heroin...

i think he'll be in europe, i might be wrong but i thought you needed to add caffeine to most of the heroin there to smoke it

well in europe they often get number 3 heroin which is heroin base or #3 heroin and it smokes easily without caffeine being added as there is usually already caffeine in it and it's heroin base which is called smoking heroin by some as it needs a weak acid for IV use such as lemon juice ,or vinegar(acetic acid content 5-10% depending on the vinegar)

 

[d-kong]

i have a question regarding heroin and this seems the best place to place it....i took 60mg loperamide this morning to combat wd and now have more H....and its evening time...i know that lope has a high affinity to the receptors in the stomach (Blocking affect) yet it cant cross the BBB so my question is this...if i did my shot of H would it still affect me normally? or would because my stomach already has soo much lope (opioid) in my system that it would affect me negatively or something? I've also heard that the H would attach to the stomach receptors due to the lope and it would hit me harder.

 

[thesameoldfears]

Surprised I'm the first one to say this but if you don't alread have a heroin habit please don't try it. No one is immune to addiction and heroin has taken many good people from us far too soon.

If you insist: do you know what type of heroin you'll be getting? Powder, tar, base? It depends on what kind you have for what ROA is best. One that is often overlooked is plugging which I found to be very effective.

Also, people say it's impossible to OD while smoking heroin but that's just not true, so please use extreme caution with whatever method you choose. I would try like 25-50mg (1/4-1/2 a bag) as a first time, though you should try a tiny bump to gauge potency. I've had stuff where 3 bags just gets me alright and the next time I copped 1.5 bags had me on the verge of OD.

 

[DroneLore]

If it's tar, then I recommend smoking it. That was my first introduction to heroin. It is the easiest way to titrate your dose as you feel the effects rapidly, but you don't commit all at once like you do with IV.

If it's not tar, then I suggest snorting it. Always start small. You can always take more, never less. Try to find a real life friend who has some experience. Ask them about the potency of the heroin. And always err on the side of caution. Better to do a a tiny bump and be disappointed, than rail a fat line and have it be your last.

Be careful man. I hate sounding like everyone else, but seriously. Dope ain't no joke, and I hope you manage to avoid mainlining it like you say you want to.

 

[blight12]

I got tar once my first time. Didn't know wtf to do with this stuff. I only do substances oral and nasal usually. Dont know how to do the others. So i just cut of a matchstick sized bump off the clumps and snorted it up there. It got stuck and eventually dissolved rather quickly and worked like a charm. So thats an option.

 

[mastab423]

Yeah.
Number 1: I highly recommend against smoking heroin if you haven't done it yet. Yes, we've all heard it's addictive. We all know no one's immune to the addiction. But really. It's a bad idea.

2: since you're going to anyway, if its tar and you're going to smoke it, start with a piece half the size of a match head. put it on a strip foil that you folded in half the long way. put it at the top and tip it so there's a slope, light underneath, and inhale the smoke with a straw as the piece of tar runs down the middle. It's harsh. You won't be able to inhale for long. It hits you immediately so you should know if you're being safe.

If you want to snort it, take a chapstick cap (or something like it), put a little bit of water in it, put a half matchstick size drop of the tar in it and shake shake shake. put it up to your nose, throw your head back to dump it in, and then throw your head forward again quickly while plugging your nose so it goes into your sinuses. It burns like hell, but you might like it better than smoking. or you could just mix it in a spoon and snort it like that.

Good luck, be safe. Don't push it.

 

[blight12]

^^ Yeah the waterlining idea also works well, just need to learn water vol and technique to avoid that shot going straight down the back of your throat, into oblivion.

 

[ErgicMergic]

I wanted to try it for the first time in life, and I want to be on the safe side, how should I proceed?

Want to be on the safe side just in case you're one of the 1/10 people who lose their lives to heroin after just "trying it once"? Don't try it in the first place, then you'll have no want or craving for heroin later on in life.

Trying heroin is easy, getting hooked is easier, then what? Kicking and feeling withdrawals can be short and easy, but then comes life, the hard part. Life will always be there, the more you avoid your problems, the more you dig yourself deeper in to stagnation?

Want to have a good life? Don't touch heroin, meth, GHB, or cocaine; these are 4 street drugs that are vicious, insidious dogs better left sleeping.

 

[dopemaster]

Honestly the safest thing to do would be to not use the heroin. Its a really nasty drug. That being said if it was me, I would just inject it. After filtering and whatnot with clean needles and cleaning it, etc, UTFSE.