Gyno Scare

auhsoJ

auhsoJ

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Currently using a mere 450mg of test e and at the end of that cycle. Used test e/c in the past, never had this problem - never ran an AI during cycle.

The other week I noticed a tiny hard pea near my right nipple. It's nothing you can see. If you feel over the area and press down you can feel it but there's nothing apparent about it. No puffiness, sensitivity (other when struck).

I jumped on .25 of adex and 20mg of nolva a day. The pea has gone completely soft, no sensitivity but I can still feel as if something is there. Something flat and soft but there. Now that I'm almost at PCT I was looking for advice.

Due to estro-rebound I was thinking of 40mg of nolva a day along with clomid. Is there anything else? I'm to stop the adex during PCT yes?

With test e I've always waited two weeks before starting PCT. Should I continue the adex during these two weeks?

If I see a doctor at all I'm going to wait until I finish the PCT.

Thanks all.
 
No. Do what you normally do.

Next cycle get some Letrozole and run that in place Adex. It's a harsh but powerful AI that can reverse gyno in it's early stages. I used it to get rid of mine. Be prepared though if you decide to use it to have no libido for a few weeks and for joint pain and skin dryness.

In the future never jump on Nolva. If that gyno had been progesterone/prolactin induced you would of made it horribly worse.
 
So don't take adex for the two weeks before PCT and don't bump nolva to 40mg? I'm going to continue taking 20mg of nolva throughout now and PCT.
 
auhsoJ said:
So don't take adex for the two weeks before PCT and don't bump nolva to 40mg? I'm going to continue taking 20mg of nolva throughout now and PCT.
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Run the Adex for another week, and stop using it a week before going on PCT. Don't bump the Nolvadex to 40mg. You PCT should be 4-5 weeks; Nolvadex at 20mg everyday and Clomid at 50mg everyday.

Don't freak out either bro. Everyone has gyno scares. It comes with the territory.
 
-Guido- said:
Run the Adex for another week, and stop using it a week before going on PCT. Don't bump the Nolvadex to 40mg. You PCT should be 4-5 weeks; Nolvadex at 20mg everyday and Clomid at 50mg everyday.

Don't freak out either bro. Everyone has gyno scares. It comes with the territory.
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That lump means tissue formed and I'll always have that tissue right? The drugs will only reduce it. That's my understanding. I don't understand how it happened as I've used test e/c three other times without issue.
 
If it's in early enough stages and not too developed you could possibly get rid of it with a powerful AI like Letrozole. I did with mine. Letrozole was originally developed to get rid of hormonally responsive breast cancer tissue in women. The thing is, unless you have surgery, it could flare up again. Even with surgery you could end up getting gyno down the road again.

It's just something that happens over time if you happen to be prone to it. Each time you cycled a little bit developed and then one day you notice a lump. I'm pretty sure everyone who has used steroids has a little bit of breast tissue. It may not be enough to be noticed visually nor felt but it's there.
 
I would get letro as soon as possible. Reversing your gyno is easier the earlier you start. Stay on the adex until you get it. Also stay on the nolva. In my opinion it's no problem to run a letro gyno reversal protocol while you're on PCT.

Of course you have to run an AI with every future cycle. Adex or aromasin is enough for most, but some people need letro to prevent new flare ups. And you should get caber if you ever plan to run tren or deca/NPP.
 
BlueCrest said:
In my opinion it's no problem to run a letro gyno reversal protocol while you're on PCT.
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It defeats the purpose of PCT. You are supposed to be stabilizing hormones. Not to mention it would severely fuck with his lipid profile.
 
Ugh. I feel like I'm on too many drugs. These three on top of supplements. I started taking 200mg of vitamin b6 as I read it might help.

I'm not sure if it's related to these drugs but I've been feeling lethargic, spacey, sluggish. I'm able to workout and bike but feel cloudy in the head. It's a long shot but is there any relation to this?

Of course I'm worried about fucking up my lipids too much. I know the test will do a number and adex will enchance that. Read that nolva improves them however I've also read that nolva increases TRIGs. Ugh.
 
Probably too much Anastrozole (Armidex). You might of brought your estrogen levels down to far, you do need some estrogen to feel normal and energized. Try dosing EOD.

I would like to point out that auhsoJ is a perfect example of why you keep things simple early on when you start using steroids. You got to find a balance and learn how you react to compounds. If he had been on a gigantic stack he wouldn't know what the fuck is what but since he on a few simple compounds he can pinpoint the problem, solve it, and take what he has learned from this cycle and about his body and apply it to a future cycle.

auhsoJ, don't worry to much about the way you feel or be fearful about you lipid profile. Dose the Anastrozole EOD and and give it a week and you should feel better. Realize as well that you aren't going to feel like a God all the time when using hormones. Everyone has off days on cycle and it can be dependent on 1mg too much of an AI, missing a meal, some broad fucking with your head, not enough sleep, low potassium, low sugar, or bullshit at the job.

Anybody who says steroids are the easy road doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about.
 
-Guido- said:
It defeats the purpose of PCT. You are supposed to be stabilizing hormones. Not to mention it would severely fuck with his lipid profile.
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Yeah but more about stabilizing your T level and the other HTPA hormones (GnRH, LH, FSH). You can recover fine even though your E levels are destroyed by letrozole. E actually hinders the recovery of HTPA. Therefore it is extremely important to do a super slow taper as soon as the gyno is reversed AND to run nolva (maybe also clomid) a few more weeks after you stop the letro.

The lipids aren't that important IMO. They will be destroyed during the gyno reversal protocol no matter when you run it. But that's a few weeks at most and they will recover quickly. Especially if you're also on clomid and nolva which both improve your HDL/LDL. Bad lipid values are harmful over very long timeframes (years, decades) and pretty much irrelevant over a few weeks.

If you attempt the gyno reversal protocol, you will feel like crap. Very lethargic, zero sex drive, serious joint pain. But if you want to reverse your lumps completely (which is probably still possible), there's no other way.

On future cycles you will have to find an AI dosage that works for you and your cycle. I never needed more than 0.25mg adex EOD, even with two heavily aromatizing compounds (test + dbol). 0.25mg ED already made me feel like crap. With letro I do a quarter pill (0.625mg) e3d, e4d or e5d. Depending on the cycle and how i feel.
 
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