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JustSayYesToDrugs

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What a great forum. I'm glad I stumbled my way to this forum. I just wanted to send a shout out and introduce myself. This may be longer than you want to read so if so you can leave now. I'm totally new to drugs as of last year. I grew up during the Reagan "Just Say No to Drugs" era. I was constantly told over and over growing up you're either going to end up in jail or dead if you use drugs. Sad to say that I bought into all of that bullshit. However, I do have a type A addictive personality. When I like something I go all out and you could say I get addicted to it. Sex, golf, travel and many other things.

It's somewhat of a miracle that I ended up not trying drugs sooner. It's not to say I wasn't exposed to it. In college I was in a fraternity and saw every drug imaginable being used/abused. I just told myself, "just say no". And did just that. Then out of college, I was responsible. Worked my ass off and made partner at my firm. My goal was to make enough to retire earlier in life so I slaved away working hard.

My sole interaction when I was younger (late 20's) was this super sexy girlfriend that just loved to smoke pot. She was this sensual girl that I actually met at a strip club. She wasn't a dancer but that cool type of girl that went in with her guy friends to watch girls dance. She was one of those trust fund kids that never had to really work. All she did all day was smoke weed, sleep in and then would go out to eat with her friends and go partying at night. She was only 22 but one of those wise beyond her years type of girl. She respected the fact that I wasn't into drugs but she did ask me several times to get high with her. OK, looking back now I feel like a total idiot for not getting high with her! What a moron! She would go on and on about how some day marijuana would be legal all throughout the USA. How it was less harmful than even cigarettes and was almost scholarly about the medicinal purposes of marijuana.

One night before we were to go on a super romantic trip to Mexico she made me dinner at her apartment. I had a big house at the time but she had this amazing penthouse apartment with the most marvelous view downtown. I remember she made the most delicious food. Her family owned a chain of restaurants. After dinner we were making love and all I remember was time just flying by. It was sunset when we were starting but then I remember it blurring into evening. While I was inside of her I remember the most amazing euphoria. But then I started getting paranoid and just got weird. I stopped her and told her I felt sick. She told me to calm down. I was trying to be rational and think what could have happened. I told her the only explanation was she drugged me. I felt so betrayed. While I totally was ok with her smoking pot, this was back in the early 2000's and pot wasn't legal in any state, I just wasn't into drugs. I blew up and broke up with her. I called my friend as I couldn't drive and he drove me home.

I was confused, betrayed, sad and as much as I liked hanging out with B., I told myself I could never trust someone like this. She came by my house for several days crying and begging for forgiveness. I never did and told her never to contact me again. I was stupid and stubborn and just ignorant. Granted, it was totally NOT ok for her to drug me without my consent. Just not cool. But I tell you this story to tell you about the one time that I was high.

Fast forward 20 years and I'm now in my late 40's. Married with kids. I just never thought I'd want to use drugs. But one day I was getting my haircut by my hairdresser. An attractive younger girl, D. D. did hit on me and gave me her phone # but I never called her. Not so say, I'm a saint and would never cheat on my wife. I had before and was at the time but this was too close to home and D. knew some of my other friends. D. was wild and would tell me about some crazy stories. Most involved sex and then sex and drugs. I got curious because she told me about feeling so amazing the previous weekend. She said it was her first time doing MDMA (Ecstasy). She was describing it and it sounded so amazing.

I got home and I started researching about MDMA. I went to all the various websites that talked about MDMA. I read several books by Shulgin and listened to audiobooks of interviews of Alexander Shulgin and his wife, Ann. I read about the FDA and PTSD patients that were trying MDMA in clinical trials. It was all fascinating.

The next time I got my haircut, I asked D. if she get me some MDMA. I didn't know how/when I'd do it but I asked her and she did get me a few pills. She did. Then I made the bold step of asking my wife (who also never did drugs before and was against them) if she would do MDMA with me. Surprisingly she said she would try it. We booked a fancy hotel and officially did drugs for the first time. Looking back I was a little foolish because although I knew and trusted my hairdresser, I didn't test the drugs. Now I'm very careful and test (Marquis + Simon's A+B) and measure out MDMA, that first time I only got the pills. It was in gelatin capsules and if I had to guess it had about 100 mg of MDMA each pill. D. told me to take it and if I liked it then take another one 90 minutes later.

So that's what we both did. About 30 minutes in we both started feeling a little dizzy and nauseous during the come up. But that only lasted about 15 minutes and then it was amazing. We took the redose 90 minutes later as instructed and it was an amazing first experience with drugs. I felt like a total idiot for not starting sooner! And I remember thinking how stupid I was to have not listened to B. 20 years earlier.

Since then, I tried marijuana and really love the sensation. I remember having sex with my wife the first time super high on marijuana and it was the most amazing feeling. I literally went back in a time machine and it reminded me of the sensation of when B. drugged me so many years before. I so regretted not trying drugs sooner but feel like now that I'm older and more responsible this is probably the best time to do drugs.

I did have an "oh shit" drug episode last year a few months after this experience I wrote about above. I ordered and tried LSD. I know, I know some would say that was a big step. Luckily I read quite a bit and read it's a good idea to do it with a sitter first. I just took too much for my first time. I took about 250 ug which ended up being way too much for me. I had an ego death and I literally thought I was dying. I was panicking. I read that 250 ug. was too little to cause any major problems but that didn't change the fact that I thought I was going to die. My marble floor in my bathroom I thought was moving. The most shocking thing was that I admitted to my wife that I was cheating on her. And when she asked me about it, I couldn't lie. It was like the LSD was a truth serum. I remember trying to lie but couldn't. My wife was saying she wanted a divorce but I just asked her to help me get through the night.

That LSD scared me! But ultimately it saved me because I was selfish and seeing other girls when I was traveling out of town for work. That night totally changed me and my philosophy. I have an amazing, gorgeous wife and it took that episode to really give me an ego death. I promised my wife that I wouldn't cheat again and she agreed to forgive me. It's not always easy but I would have never admitted something like this. And I don't think I could have stopped cheating had it not been for that episode with the LSD.

I told myself I would never try LSD again but have to confess I've tried microdosing it. So far, the highest is only 35 ug which does give a good feeling. I do MDMA about once every 5 or 6 weeks and amazing every time. I am fortunate that I live in a state where marijuana is legal so it's effortless to get. I've also tried 2CB which is great but really difficult to get here in the USA. I had to order from the Netherlands but after COVID mail service is too undependable.

I'm wanting to try some other drugs. After all those years of "Just Say No" now I'm saying "Just say Yes to drugs". And my ex-girlfriend that drugged me was totally correct. Fast forward to today and many states have legal marijuana and more states are heading that way.
 
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@JustSayYesToDrugs

Great story. I read the whole thing and enjoyed it.

I'm glad you discovered the magic of drugs (specifically things like MDMA and LSD) at a later age. Not something to regret. You sound like your life is in order. I'm one of the people who was introduced to drugs at 11-12 years old. By age 15 I was a heroin addict. It severely ruined my life. Drugs can only truly be enjoyed when you are responsible and your life is in order!

I am so glad you discovered the magic of drugs at a later age. It's a great thing. Don't regret it. That one experience you had when you were younger is quite normal when first experimenting with drugs (and sexuality for that matter).

I would encourage you to explore LSD more. It's my favorite psychedelic. I generally need 400-500ug to get off on it and enjoy it... but that's A LOT. 250ug IS A LOT especially for a first time. Most people should only do 100ug their first time. I am an extremely experienced psychonaut and drug user. What I take normally (400-500ug) is honestly an INSANE amount of LSD and not to be taken lightly. I am extremely comfortable with it.

I am honestly happy you discovered drugs, no matter your age. They are an amazing thing if used PROPERLY at the right time and place in your life!

Things like benzos, meth, cocaine and opioids (painkillers) are a different story and I would highly advise you to stay away from those. They can easily ruin your life through addiction (at any age).

Good for you for learning to test your drugs. Drugs have changed in the last ~15 years. When I was kid if I was sold drugs I was sure they were what they were sold as. These days with all the research chemicals it's chaos now. It's extremely common for ANY drug (from LSD, MDMA to heroin and benzos) to be faked and sold as other drugs. ALWAYS TEST YOUR DRUGS. NEVER TRUST ANY DRUG DEALER ON THEIR WORD!!!!!

I hope you continue to enjoy drugs. Always test and use responsibly. You've reached a great resource of people who can guide you and keep you safe.


welcome to bluelight, friend.
 
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@JustSayYesToDrugs

Great story. I read the whole thing and enjoyed it.

I'm glad you discovered the magic of drugs (specifically things like MDMA and LSD) at a later age. Not something to regret. You sound like your life is in order. I'm one of the people who was introduced to drugs at 11-12 years old. By age 15 I was a heroin addict. It severely ruined my life. Drugs can only truly be enjoyed when you are responsible and your life is in order!

I am so glad you discovered the magic of drugs at a later age. It's a great thing. Don't regret it. That one experience you had when you were younger is quite normal when first experimenting with drugs (and sexuality for that matter).

I would encourage you to explore LSD more. It's my favorite psychedelic. I generally need 400-500ug to get off on it and enjoy it... but that's A LOT. 250ug IS A LOT especially for a first time. Most people should only do 100ug their first time. I am an extremely experienced psychonaut and drug user. What I take normally (400-500ug) is honestly an INSANE amount of LSD and not to be taken lightly. I am extremely comfortable with it.

I am honestly happy you discovered drugs, no matter your age. They are an amazing thing if used PROPERLY at the right time and place in your life!

Things like benzos, meth, cocaine and opioids (painkillers) are a different story and I would highly advise you to stay away from those. They can easily ruin your life through addiction (at any age).

Good for you for learning to test your drugs. Drugs have changed in the last ~15 years. When I was kid if I was sold drugs I was sure they were what they were sold as. These days with all the research chemicals it's chaos now. It's extremely common for ANY drug (from LSD, MDMA to heroin and benzos) to be faked and sold as other drugs. ALWAYS TEST YOUR DRUGS. NEVER TRUST ANY DRUG DEALER ON THEIR WORD!!!!!

I hope you continue to enjoy drugs. Always test and use responsibly. You've reached a great resource of people who can guide you and keep you safe.


welcome to bluelight, friend.

Thanks so much for that really warm welcome! I appreciate the kind words and the sage advice. Yes, 250 ug is a lot for the first time. My mistake is that I ordered what I thought was "5 doses of 125 ug". I bought it from my MDMA source from the DN market and he was so reliable. I tested it with Ehrlich and it passed with flying colors. However, I guess since I was a good customer, he sent double doses so 10 tabs instead of 5 tabs. Shame on me for not asking him first. So what I thought was 125 ug was 250 ug. I AM curious to try it in a larger dose. I suspect that 100 ug would be good but I'll gradually try it. Your reaction to try it again is what I keep hearing over and over from people. I definitely respect that drug. It's really powerful.

When I was researching I'd read all these stories of alcoholics that were cured by using LSD and having ego deaths and also being able to see the pain and harm they were doing to themselves and their families. I feel like that was the case with my sexual addiction. Back when I was younger, I was making quite a bit of money so I started seeing high class escorts so that really spoiled me. The ability to sleep with any hot escort got me spoiled and so I continued on that pattern. I stopped when I got married but then started up again but it took this ego death with the LSD to stop. I really feel like it changed my life so I respect it and DO want to try it again.

I totally agree that drugs are truly to be enjoyed when you're responsible and your life is in order. I have a feeling if I tried MDMA when I was younger in college, I would have abused it. It's just so amazing. I try not to do it before at least every 4-5 weeks but I get so giddy on that day when I'm going to do it and I redose 2-3 times. It's amazing but I get so tired the next day. Sex is also amazing on LSD (even the micro-doses) and on pot. MDMA too but it's difficult to maintain erection but still feels amazing.

The one fear I have is that sex is so good on drugs that I worry if I will get as excited not being high. I don't have any desire to do some of the stronger stuff like cocaine but I admit I'm curious what meth would feel like but I get too worried about getting addicted to it so have stayed away.
 
Thanks so much for that really warm welcome! I appreciate the kind words and the sage advice. Yes, 250 ug is a lot for the first time. My mistake is that I ordered what I thought was "5 doses of 125 ug". I bought it from my MDMA source from the DN market and he was so reliable. I tested it with Ehrlich and it passed with flying colors. However, I guess since I was a good customer, he sent double doses so 10 tabs instead of 5 tabs. Shame on me for not asking him first. So what I thought was 125 ug was 250 ug. I AM curious to try it in a larger dose. I suspect that 100 ug would be good but I'll gradually try it. Your reaction to try it again is what I keep hearing over and over from people. I definitely respect that drug. It's really powerful.

LSD is extremly commonly faked as other lysergamide drugs. I would guess 75% of the stuff on the dark net is not true LSD. The good thing is that even the fake stuff (1p-LSD, 1cp-LSD, ALD-52, ETH-LAD) are all similar enough to LSD that it's not really a problem. I enjoy the fakes almost as much as the real LSD-25. Also, all of those will pass Erlich with flying colors just like real LSD. Your only real concern is buying tabs that are actually 25i-nbome. Thank god that stuff is basically gone, off the market and rarely ever sold now or faked as LSD. My best piece of advice is to just hold the tabs in your mouth for 1-2 minutes until they get soft then swallow them. MOST 25i tabs are inactive orally once you swallow them. And trust me, you DO NOT want to get high on 25i-nbome compounds. Nightmare. Good advice but not foolproof. Since nBOME came out (called n-bombs) I started eating all tabs instead of keeping them in my mouth.

LSD (and it's analogues) can absolutely help with addiction... however I fall through the cracks in that I am a poly addict. I am both addicted to alcohol and LSD in a way (psychological). I could take all the LSD in the world and I will still crave alcohol. In fact, I love alcohol while tripping on LSD. Doesn't work for me.

HOWEVER... things like DMT are different. I would say DMT helps me much more with alcoholism than LSD.... DMT is infinitely more potent than LSD, though. It's a totally different psychedelic on a totally different level.

Yeah I heard that whole thing "once you have sex or an orgasm on MDMA it changes sex/orgasms for you forever".... I don't really believe that. I've had orgasms on MDMA, 6-APB and other drugs that were OVERLY intense to the point I was violently shaking and thought I might have a seizure. SOOOO intense. Did it change it permanently for me? No... but on the flip side I will never forget those orgasms. It doesn't change my opinion of normal orgasms, though.

I mean shit, I really wish I could smoke meth every day and go on 16 hour masturbation sessions. Utterly hedonic and euphoric. Never changed normal sex, for me, though.

I would ultimately advise you to stick to psychedelics like LSD and MDMA. Coke, meth and heroin/painkillers are not really worth doing in the long run.
 
What great advice and I had no idea all of those things would pass on Ehrlich. I have a lot to learn but fortunately I found a dealer that has been providing this for a long time and had so many rave reviews on all the DN markets. I'm still a bit gun shy about trying LSD in larger doses but reading posts like yours really gives me confidence to try again. I'm fairly sensitive to drugs. Although I don't take monster individual doses of MDMA (usually take 125 mg to 150 mg) and then redoses of 100 mg so all in about 325 mg. which I don't think is too bad.

YES. Orgasms (when I can orgasm) on MDMA are intense. Yes, violently shaking. But even not being able to come is so euphoric on MDMA. I tried a candy flip once just on a micro dose of LSD (only around 25 ug) and then the MDMA and it was intense. I can't imagine what it would be on a bigger dose but will try again.

I doubt I'll try coke, heroin/painkillers but how would you compare the difference of meth on sex vs. other drugs? You sound very knowledgable and I'm hungry to learn. Thanks so much.
 
@JustSayYesToDrugs - hey man, sorry for the rude post earlier. I'm on my adderall now :)

First of all that's a hilarious username. I really enjoy it.

Man.. being in a frat and not using? We used to call Acacia Coke-casia because they literally had a massive bowl of coke for the entire house. My buddy was their supplier. And mine.

Too bad that girl drugged you in a sketchy fashion. She seemed wicked cool.

Sex and weed is great, too! I'm a big pot head.

LSD as truth serum that's pretty funny. I can see how that may open doors in a therapeutic setting.
I doubt I'll try coke, heroin/painkillers but how would you compare the difference of meth on sex vs. other drugs? You sound very knowledgable and I'm hungry to learn. Thanks so much.

Meth feels like you're dying when you orgasm on it, for better or for worse.

I hate to say it, but being a lawyer, working long hours.. are stimulants not your thing? Man you have a nice life and family.. i'd hate to see it ruined.

But you do seem like you'd benefit more from stimulants than opioids, just like me.

I have a "type A" personality too, i think. In the sense that i'm sort of a control freak and i push everything to the limit.

Anyhow, Welcome to Bluelight JSYTD.

Hopefully we see you around.
 
@JustSayYesToDrugs - hey man, sorry for the rude post earlier. I'm on my adderall now :)

First of all that's a hilarious username. I really enjoy it.

Man.. being in a frat and not using? We used to call Acacia Coke-casia because they literally had a massive bowl of coke for the entire house. My buddy was their supplier. And mine.

Too bad that girl drugged you in a sketchy fashion. She seemed wicked cool.

Sex and weed is great, too! I'm a big pot head.

LSD as truth serum that's pretty funny. I can see how that may open doors in a therapeutic setting.


Meth feels like you're dying when you orgasm on it, for better or for worse.

I hate to say it, but being a lawyer, working long hours.. are stimulants not your thing? Man you have a nice life and family.. i'd hate to see it ruined.

But you do seem like you'd benefit more from stimulants than opioids, just like me.

I have a "type A" personality too, i think. In the sense that i'm sort of a control freak and i push everything to the limit.

Anyhow, Welcome to Bluelight JSYTD.

Hopefully we see you around.
No worries at all about the earlier post. I know it was super long but just felt like if I'm going to be part of a community, it was worth taking the time to give my situation how I started. Funny about the Acacia Coke-casia. Mine wasn't that bad but there was just about any drug imaginable. Looking back, it's probably a good thing I never started so young.

Totally true about the LSD truth serum thingy. I read the CIA used to experiment with LSD as a truth serum. It was amazing how powerful it was. I flat out couldn't lie at all. She was asking me pointed questions and I couldn't lie. I tried! She was even asking me to show her the contacts of the girls in my phone and I was showing her. It was crazy how powerful it was.

Hmm. I'm not sure "meth feels like you're dying when you orgasm on it" is a ringing endorsement for me to try it. I probably never will as it sounds wicked addictive. Well, now I am not working wicked hours. More of a laid back life now (well at least pre-COVID) but admittedly COVID brings more stress now. I haven't tried coke yet. I'm at that point where I'm starting to experiment with various drugs and really like them but don't want to ruin my life or get addicted to anything but really really love the feeling of MDMA, marijuana, LSD but taking them in moderation.

Thanks for the warm welcome madness00 and spending the time to read my first post.
 
No worries at all about the earlier post. I know it was super long but just felt like if I'm going to be part of a community, it was worth taking the time to give my situation how I started. Funny about the Acacia Coke-casia. Mine wasn't that bad but there was just about any drug imaginable. Looking back, it's probably a good thing I never started so young.

Totally true about the LSD truth serum thingy. I read the CIA used to experiment with LSD as a truth serum. It was amazing how powerful it was. I flat out couldn't lie at all. She was asking me pointed questions and I couldn't lie. I tried! She was even asking me to show her the contacts of the girls in my phone and I was showing her. It was crazy how powerful it was.

Hmm. I'm not sure "meth feels like you're dying when you orgasm on it" is a ringing endorsement for me to try it. I probably never will as it sounds wicked addictive. Well, now I am not working wicked hours. More of a laid back life now (well at least pre-COVID) but admittedly COVID brings more stress now. I haven't tried coke yet. I'm at that point where I'm starting to experiment with various drugs and really like them but don't want to ruin my life or get addicted to anything but really really love the feeling of MDMA, marijuana, LSD but taking them in moderation.

Thanks for the warm welcome madness00 and spending the time to read my first post.

Why have you joined Bluelight?

To share, learn, other?

All are welcome obviously. Just curious!
 
Wow. What a great intro and life history. You’ll probably appreciate and manage drugs far more as an older and more mature person. Welcome to BL and stick to your instincts and steer clear of meth. Everything else stimulating is fair game though.
 
Fucking hell, @JustSayYesToDrugs you sound like the right sort of drug user!!!

Waited til a decently mature age. Sound like you can more than handle yourself. Smart man.

Welcome to BL.

By the way, I don't think you overreacted to having been drugged. That is a serious breach of personal autonomy. You handled it better than I would have....I probably would have punched a bitch, but then, I can already see that you're a better person than me!

Welcome again.
 
Awesome story man. That LSD experience sounds like it was extremely difficult but it was also the thing that got you into a (I presume) better playing field with your wife and improved your relationship in the end. It really is amazing what drugs can do for the mind and the soul at time, affect critical aspects of your life. Just be careful you don’t get gung ho on all the drugs because those experiences and eventual habitual (like more weekly or especially daily harder drugs use) can be equally as negative and then some too. It sounds like you’re pretty regulated, wisened up, and well informed one source or another what you’re getting into though.

have fun stay safe 😊
 
Why have you joined Bluelight?

To share, learn, other?

All are welcome obviously. Just curious!
Hi madness.

I guess all of the above. Share, learn, connect. I know I'm probably the square peg in the round hole on this board but I've found that you're never too old to learn, there is never enough to learn and you can never meet too many people.

One would look at me and NOT guess that I was doing drugs. And that's ok. I actually found this forum because I recently bought some experimental drugs Bon-2C-B (beta-hydroxy-2C-B) from a well known DN vendor and he referenced some trip reports here on this forum. That's how I found this forum. And then I started reading some posts. I've moderated some big national online forums and I always believed that if I was going to participate, I might as well take the time to do a prop intro.

Drugs are new to me and I want to do them as responsibly as possible. It definitely sounds like I can learn great wisdom and lessons from many of you.
 
Awesome story man. That LSD experience sounds like it was extremely difficult but it was also the thing that got you into a (I presume) better playing field with your wife and improved your relationship in the end. It really is amazing what drugs can do for the mind and the soul at time, affect critical aspects of your life. Just be careful you don’t get gung ho on all the drugs because those experiences and eventual habitual (like more weekly or especially daily harder drugs use) can be equally as negative and then some too. It sounds like you’re pretty regulated, wisened up, and well informed one source or another what you’re getting into though.

have fun stay safe 😊

Thanks Alex! To be honest it was a really really scary experience. Thank God I had the good sense not to have my wife also on LSD. I read quite a bit before doing it and knew I wasn't going to die from only 2 tabs but it doesn't change the fact that it was really crazy. It started out really amazing. We were making love and literally I was having sex on a rainbow. It was the most beautiful experience I ever had. Then it slowly turned dark and I was falling off the rainbow. I went back in time and I saw all the girls that I cheated on my wife with. I always looked at myself as a good guy. Never once cheated a client. Always very ethical. Good husband (or what I thought was a good husband). Good father. Good provider. Hard worker. What that LSD experience taught me was that I was hurting my wife.

I remember just starting to cry and she made a warm bath for me. I kept apologizing for cheating on her. She was so angry. I promised her if she just got me through the night then I'd agree with whatever was my fate the following morning. I remember her grilling me and asking me how many girls I cheated on her. She even asked for names and to show me on my phone their contacts. I was helpless and tried to lie but it literally was like truth serum. Crazy!

The first thing I did was flush all the LSD I bought down the toilet. I swore I'd never do it again. But then I started reading books, researching and listening to people that told me to give it another try and that it actually helped save my marriage. That's the truth. I feel more connected to my wife than ever. I've never done a big dose again. Just small doses and not sure I have the courage to try a normal dose again. But I did buy some and just waiting to get up the courage to try it again besides a micro dose.

But I live in a state where marijuana is legal and I have to say I'm LOVING the feeling of getting high. Sex is amazing on it. One thing about MDMA (currently my favorite drug) is that I can't get hard on doses above 125 mg until after the peak hits. But with pot it's just incredible.
Fucking hell, @JustSayYesToDrugs you sound like the right sort of drug user!!!

Waited til a decently mature age. Sound like you can more than handle yourself. Smart man.

Welcome to BL.

By the way, I don't think you overreacted to having been drugged. That is a serious breach of personal autonomy. You handled it better than I would have....I probably would have punched a bitch, but then, I can already see that you're a better person than me!

Welcome again.
Well, I don't know if I'm the "right kind of drug user". I have bad habits like when I really like something I go crazy! For example, once I started making good $$$, I started seeing high end escorts. I was only in my late 20's but I figured why bother with dating when the end result is you want to fuck the girl. Don't get me wrong. I've always had great luck dating and I'm very social. Never had issues. But the first time I paid an escort $300/hour and could skip the multiple dates, small talk, dating, etc. it was truly euphoric! I guess you could say I got addicted. I didn't see it at the time as an addiction but it was. I was seeing sometimes 3 girls a week. It was so much fun. Then when I got bored seeing all the girls in my city, I'd travel to other cities. Then when I heard sex/escorts were better in other countries, I started traveling to other countries all around the world for the sex scene. Was amazing. It's a bit shocking to think about but I've literally been with over 500 escorts in the past 20 years. I don't necessarily think that is a signal that I let things get out of control. Instead, I reasoned at the time I was single and I was making. lots of money and that was the time to do it. Now, I couldn't stomach paying $300/hour for sex as I'd reason to myself that was 3 tennis lessons for my kid.

So the jury is out if I'm the right kind of drug user. So far I am but I don't want it to get like the escorts. I was single then and had no responsibilities to anyone but myself. I'm married now with a few kids so life is more complex. Some days I want to be selfish and just book a nice hotel room and get high all day, watch porn, etc. Just truly indulge myself. I love the closeness and feelings of being totally in love with my wife. Rolling with her on MDMA. But I also love the animalistic feelings when doing micro-doses of LSD and also marijuana where I don't care how I'm coming and it all feels good. I guess I don't want to turn into a degenerate drug user.

Thanks for the affirmation on not overreacting to being drugged. I totally agree it's NOT ok to drug someone without their permission. Still, I wish I just listened to that girl. Every time I get high on pot now, I have the same exact sensation as when she drugged me. I remember we were fucking and I was so high and it felt so good. I missed out on a LOT of years of doing drugs and feeling good but I know if I started earlier it wouldn't have ended up well. Hell, it still might not. Ha, ha.
 
Well, I don't know if I'm the "right kind of drug user".
To be honest, I'm not sure what that means anyway. I just meant that you seemed like you had your head right.....especially as compared to most of the degens around here....and in my life.

I have bad habits like when I really like something I go crazy! For example, once I started making good $$$, I started seeing high end escorts. I was only in my late 20's but I figured why bother with dating when the end result is you want to fuck the girl. Don't get me wrong. I've always had great luck dating and I'm very social. Never had issues. But the first time I paid an escort $300/hour and could skip the multiple dates, small talk, dating, etc. it was truly euphoric! I guess you could say I got addicted. I didn't see it at the time as an addiction but it was. I was seeing sometimes 3 girls a week. It was so much fun.
Sounds dope. Not sure about paying for it though. I guess ladies will cost me either way so may as well. I don't have that kind of money so I'm currently on a tip where I get them to take me out for seriously nice dinners, get me drunk on good wine and cocktails and then I let them at it. hahah....cheaper than the alternatives and I get damn good meals out of it.

I guess I don't want to turn into a degenerate drug user.
No, you defo do not.
I only joke about being a degen....it's all fun and games when you have things under control. I'm single and have no dependents and live alone so it's bachanal for me whenever I want it. Then again, I'm getting older and value my good health so all within reasonable constraints.
I've seen some of the worst outcomes and have friends who live and have lived them as well. I myself had a bit of a down time back in my early 20s for a year or two. Shit can get ugly real fast.

Thanks for the affirmation on not overreacting to being drugged. I totally agree it's NOT ok to drug someone without their permission. Still, I wish I just listened to that girl. Every time I get high on pot now, I have the same exact sensation as when she drugged me. I remember we were fucking and I was so high and it felt so good. I missed out on a LOT of years of doing drugs and feeling good but I know if I started earlier it wouldn't have ended up well. Hell, it still might not. Ha, ha.

It's a lot better to have come late to this particular game. Maturity and the inevitable accrual of wisdom with age temper the impulses of youth.
Never mind the whole brain development thing and how that isn't truly complete til one's early to mid-20s.
 
It's a lot better to have come late to this particular game. Maturity and the inevitable accrual of wisdom with age temper the impulses of youth.
Never mind the whole brain development thing and how that isn't truly complete til one's early to mid-20s.
I really love the sense of community here. Whenever I come to a new forum, I enjoy getting to know the various personalities. You all are great. I agree coming late to this game probably is better. I think back to when I was younger and being able to use the excuse of not having to support anyone and justifying it to have fun, blow money, be self indulgent.

The downside to starting later (especially these days) is just about any drug you want is available. And almost instantly. The various DN marketplaces work almost as good as Amazon.com! There was a steep learning curve (at least for me) in figuring out all the things that you need to figure out to navigate the DN's. And then the evolution of how quickly things changing. Like starting with buying bitcoins to have them almost worthless now and having to buy Monero. Figuring out PGP protocols, etc. But once you do, it's like any single drug imaginable is a click away. And once you establish a trusting relationship with a vendor/dealer, it's like the door is open for other drugs. All a bit surreal if you think about it.

Gone are the days for many people of back alley drug dealers where you might get shot or robbed. Vendors have ratings like Amazon and you can read product/buyer reviews, see how long they have been in business. Plus with the ease of getting reagent testing kits and being able to be responsible it really makes using drugs these days much easier. I can't imagine trying to navigate all of this back decades ago. A much scarier scenario.

That was the allure of online escorts back in the day. Instantly being able to see any hot girl at a click of a button. It's a bit similar to me with drugs. It's going to be an interesting journey.
 
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