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Opioids great batch of seeds

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gardenstated41

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Well lets start by saying I love opiates! Hah ok so I've been messing around with poppy seeds for about a month now and really enjoy the length of the buzz. I have done most all opiates in huge amounts. Now I've gotten my tolerance back down to about 40-60 mgs of oxy gives me a decent buzz. But I've found a great source of seeds around here. GFS brand bulk seeds. . I bought a pound and a quarter tonight and am feeling great. Just a simple warm water wash with lemon juice. My pupils are dots right now. I am truly amazed in this. But my questio is this. What causes the longevity of the high? If I were to take morphine or codeine in pill form the buzz only lasts for an hour and a half. Give or take. But with the tea I'm high for hours. Just curious as to why? I recomemd gfs seeds to anyone that uses seed tea. Sorry if there are areas of this post that doesn't seem clear. I'm on a phone and its difficult:)
 
One other thing. Can a solvent like ethanol be used instead of water, then left to evap leaving a smokable product?
 
^ not really,it extracts way too much unwanted shit,like fats and oils....the extract can be eaten though
 
^Even when using just water, if you steep them too long. I love seed tea so much, but it really fucks with your metabolism and blows up your weight (almost as much as methadone for me) when using daily. The longevity of the high though, is a keeper. I'm not certain why it lasts so long either, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the oil in it, the fat in your system and the 20+ something actives in it.
 
Um I believe poppy tea lasts so long because its got like a bijjillion different opiates in it, not just morphine lol:)
 
^ that's right.
the longevity of the high for PST is the alkaloid profile of the opiates you wash off the seeds. there are dozens of different alkaloids in opium (including morphine, codeine, thebaine - but many others as well as stated above) which is why seed tea and pod tea can last for a good 24+ hrs in some people. my understanding is that it lasts a long time because it takes the liver a long time to process so many different opiate alkaloids.

the method you are using can't really be improved upon - it should just be a really fast wash with cool/cold water and/or citrus juice. don't bother with solvents or whatever - tea is the most (probably only) effective use of seeds, unless you had some kind of lab going on. but fuck that - not worth the effort - you've already got it sorted. i always found warm water made it a bit more oily (made the seeds break down a bit) but it's up to you if you prefer warm water.

the best way to make PST is to do it fast. it's just a wash not an infusion.
you only want the stuff on the outside of the seeds, you really don't want the foul tasting oils inside the seeds. the more you hydrate the seeds, the more stinky oils come out, and the more the seeds soak up your precious poppy tea!

i have two bowls and a mesh strainer - add grapefruit juice, stir like crazy for 10 seconds then strain out. i then do two more washes with water (in the same way - add water, stir vigorously then very quickly strain it out) and mix them all together.
it should take no longer than 5-10 minutes. the longest bit for me is waiting for the liquid to strain out of the seeds.

the longer you let it sit, the worse it tastes and the less you yield!
 
spacejunk said:
the best way to make PST is to do it fast. it's just a wash not an infusion.
you only want the stuff on the outside of the seeds, you really don't want the foul tasting oils inside the seeds. the more you hydrate the seeds, the more stinky oils come out, and the more the seeds soak up your precious poppy tea!
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^this. Excellent post, spacejunk.
 
^this. Excellent post, spacejunk.[/QUOTE]

agreed, fast and she goes!

update, tried an ethanol extraction on seeds, came out with about 2-2.5 gm but substance was way to gooey, not smokeable at all. i even put it in my hookah and pushed charcoal down into the goo and it smoked real well that way but no effects were whitnessed.
this was done with 1.25 lb of seed. the same brand of seed 1.25 lb was used in a double fast wash with water and lemon juice yeilding a pretty potent tea, nodding good time! just curious as to why no effect whatsoever with the putty and pinpoint eyes and nodding with the tea?? and comments? im at a loss here
 
well...i don't find smoking opium very effective. i have a lump at the moment (pure - i made it myself from harvested pods that bled onto canvas bags as i was picking them, i then washed the bags and evaporated) and i get good effects from eating it, but you have to smoke a lot of it to get any effect. it's not like heroin - you have to puff on it for a long time to get a high smoking O. very inefficient.
i just don't bother any more - i like the idea of smoking opium, but i just find it too wasteful - especially when half a gelcap full taken orally will get me nicely toasted.

also, in the case of your putty there is probably all kinds of shit getting extracted from the coating of the seeds. oils and dust and god knows what other crap as well as opiate alkaloids. it's pretty crude as far as extracts go - you might have a very low opiate content in that putty.
the way i see it is that the tea works - and that's good enough for me :)

if you read around you find that a lot of people have experimented with making all kinds of extracts from poppy seeds - and poppy pods too. very few people seem to have any success, so it seems to me really not worth the effort. i mean, if more people reported that worthwhile extractions were possible, it might be worth a try - but the impression i get is that so many people fail because there is really very little you can do to improve on poppy seed/pod tea. they're easy to do, they have very long-lasting effects - you're probably not going to do any better without a shitload of know-how, lab equipment and/or precursor chemicals.
just stick to what works, i reckon :)

PS> the only piece of advice i can offer about how to improve PST? get yourself some nigella sativa. i finally got the right kind of seeds yesterday, and after reading about their ability to potentiate opiates for quite some time, i can finally verify that yes - they most definitely work. i've been using PST for ~10 years and it's been nearly that long since i ever caught a nod on PST - until last night; i was very, very toasted - on my normal maintenance dose of PST (or less). that dose doesn't normally get me high, let alone nodding.
and i didn't get the pure oil, i merely munched a couple of tablespoons of black seed. insane!
 
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I am new here, and I would love to learn more about this. Can I order the seeds online? And I simply soak them in lemon juice? I am new, like I said, so please don't beat me up if the information is elsewhere. :)

I especially like what I read about weight gain. I have been trying to put pounds back on for months, because I have a chronic illness that causes weight loss and much pain. I can't seem to stop breaking through my meds. I would love to try making some tea. Are the seeds expensive? Does this work for someone with an already high tolerance?

Thanks for putting up with all my questions.
 
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