yeah, but my point is, you do get lots of smoke, but why? your weed burns a lot longer in a bowl man, its pretty hard to debate that fact. and personally i like to pack up a b and smoke on it for a good while... not take 3 monster rips and pack up another fat bowl only to repeat the process all over again
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Morrison's Lament
Bluelighter
Ehhh, no offense but you need to check the physics you are using to come to that conclusion, they are extremely inaccurate...
You get more smoke because you put more material in the bowl - it has nothing to do with how long it burns. Also - the slower it burns the better because that means lower temperature and less destruction of precious THC - it would be preferable for it to burn as slow as possible (and thus as long as possible - as it only burns while there is matter to burn and additional flame doesn't realease anything extra).
The most wasteful way of smoking in the entire universe is rolling it up in a joint or a blunt, the stuff burns up all over the place.
To summarize: Weed burns while there is weed to burn - how long it takes is an indicator of the amount of matter and the temperature being used to burn it. The less temperature, the more vaporization, thus more thc gets to your lungs without being burned up.
There is absolutely nothing at all in any of this that has anything to do with "how long it burns" - that is just not a factor in this - and at the very least it's not a negative but a positive.
You get more smoke because you put more material in the bowl - it has nothing to do with how long it burns. Also - the slower it burns the better because that means lower temperature and less destruction of precious THC - it would be preferable for it to burn as slow as possible (and thus as long as possible - as it only burns while there is matter to burn and additional flame doesn't realease anything extra).
The most wasteful way of smoking in the entire universe is rolling it up in a joint or a blunt, the stuff burns up all over the place.
To summarize: Weed burns while there is weed to burn - how long it takes is an indicator of the amount of matter and the temperature being used to burn it. The less temperature, the more vaporization, thus more thc gets to your lungs without being burned up.
There is absolutely nothing at all in any of this that has anything to do with "how long it burns" - that is just not a factor in this - and at the very least it's not a negative but a positive.
Also - the slower it burns the better because that means lower temperature and less destruction of precious THC - it would be preferable for it to burn as slow as possible (and thus as long as possible - as it only burns while there is matter to burn and additional flame doesn't realease anything extra).
man you totally contradicted yourself on that post, you started off by saying " it has nothing to do with how long it burns", then you ended up pretty much proving my point, with the above statement, which i thank you for, homie. you must concede the fact that the suction created via g-bong creates a higher temperature in the bowl because it SUCKS IT DOWN FASTER! and no, how long it takes dosn't always hinge on the amount of matter you packed into the bowl, as different smoking apparati burn weed at different speeds, as you can observe by performing the following experiment:
Step one: pack up a bowl, and a bong (or gravity bong) with the same amount of dope.
Step two: smoke them both, and record how many hits you get with each. I swear, if your experiment has only one variable (keep it to like a tenth of a gram of pot or something along those lines) you will see that different smoking apparati burn dope at different speeds.
man you totally contradicted yourself on that post, you started off by saying " it has nothing to do with how long it burns", then you ended up pretty much proving my point, with the above statement, which i thank you for, homie. you must concede the fact that the suction created via g-bong creates a higher temperature in the bowl because it SUCKS IT DOWN FASTER! and no, how long it takes dosn't always hinge on the amount of matter you packed into the bowl, as different smoking apparati burn weed at different speeds, as you can observe by performing the following experiment:
Step one: pack up a bowl, and a bong (or gravity bong) with the same amount of dope.
Step two: smoke them both, and record how many hits you get with each. I swear, if your experiment has only one variable (keep it to like a tenth of a gram of pot or something along those lines) you will see that different smoking apparati burn dope at different speeds.
Morrison's Lament
Bluelighter
....ehhh, did you see the sentance: "At the very least it's not a negative but a positive" ?
The fact remains you are all but alone in some of these calculations, the fact also remains that you do not waste anything at all by smoking your shit in a GB - not because it burns faster or slower or whatever. It just simply is NOT wasteful.
It CAN be more efficient because less smoke escapes (if you do it right) - anything else that has an effect is MARGINAL compared to the fact that you are not losing smoke with a correctly taken GB. End of story. "Burning more slowly" makes no sense what so ever in light of your last post, but whatever...
--- G.
p.s. the number of hits is irrelevant btw, the THC in the product is the same, so your experiement would prove nothing
The fact remains you are all but alone in some of these calculations, the fact also remains that you do not waste anything at all by smoking your shit in a GB - not because it burns faster or slower or whatever. It just simply is NOT wasteful.
It CAN be more efficient because less smoke escapes (if you do it right) - anything else that has an effect is MARGINAL compared to the fact that you are not losing smoke with a correctly taken GB. End of story. "Burning more slowly" makes no sense what so ever in light of your last post, but whatever...
--- G.
p.s. the number of hits is irrelevant btw, the THC in the product is the same, so your experiement would prove nothing
what do you mean, negative and positive? be more clear on that. is the fact that all that suction creates more heat and burns the weed factor, as you admitted, is that a positive? or a negative? you have to express what you mean by that
i mean you're talking about these 'calculations' im making over here, when in fact im doing nothing of the sort, im just making logical assumptions which can be proven via experimentation. this experiment i've tried before, and i got results that proved my hypothesis. its called the scientific method...
by the way, sorry i havn't compiled these 3 responses into one big one, these thoughts are just occuring to me... you realize that in your post-script you DIRECTLY contradict yourself, because earlier you said that the slower it burns, the less 'precious THC' is needlessly destroyed. if u want to argue the point that the GB dosnt burn pot faster, i suggest you try the said experiment before assuming you know all the answers.
Blowmonkey
Bluelight Crew
Scientific my ass..
Haha, I just wanted to laugh about this, I'm sure Morrison will set the rest straight..
Kanaba said:
Haha, I just wanted to laugh about this, I'm sure Morrison will set the rest straight..
Wow, i just can't wait to be set 'straight' by the smart people...
Hypothesis: If i use a gravity bong to smoke weed, then my weed will burn faster as opposed to me using a bowl. (okay, thats simple enuff...)
Materials:
1x Bowl
1x Gravity Bong
1x Gram of MJ
1x Body of Water (for GB)
1x Lighter
1x Electronic Scale
2x Lungs
Procedure:
1. Pick off exactly 1/10 of a gram of MJ. Weigh it on the scale to be sure of your results (0.1g)
2. Load the MJ into a bowl, making sure as the surface of the smoking material is flat and level, so as to minimize variables.
3. Being careful not to put the flame in direct contact with the weed, begin smoking. Take normal lungfulls, for you (okay, i can see how you could complain about this part not being too scientific, but a lungful is a lungful, and there isn't TOO much variation between peoples' smoke capacities.)
4. Sit back and be stoned for a while... and get ready to pack that G-Bong.(Of course, after recording on paper how many hits you got)
5. Pick off more weed from the bud, exactly 1/10 of a gram, weighed carefully on the scale.
6. Pack the weed into the g-bong bowl. Again, make sure that the surface of the smoking material is flat and level as possible, with not too many bumps and divets (minimize those variables)
7. Smoke the G-Bong, taking your normal G-Bong hits, i guess. Whatever you feel comfortable with. Don't take any whimp-shit hits, take real g-bong hits. Again, make sure as to not let the flame of the lighter make contact with any of your smoking material.
8. Record on paper how many hits you got.
Make necessary observations.
Compare Results.
This is a fun experiment that all kids can do at home, with simple household materials! Isn't science fun, kids?!
Hypothesis: If i use a gravity bong to smoke weed, then my weed will burn faster as opposed to me using a bowl. (okay, thats simple enuff...)
Materials:
1x Bowl
1x Gravity Bong
1x Gram of MJ
1x Body of Water (for GB)
1x Lighter
1x Electronic Scale
2x Lungs
Procedure:
1. Pick off exactly 1/10 of a gram of MJ. Weigh it on the scale to be sure of your results (0.1g)
2. Load the MJ into a bowl, making sure as the surface of the smoking material is flat and level, so as to minimize variables.
3. Being careful not to put the flame in direct contact with the weed, begin smoking. Take normal lungfulls, for you (okay, i can see how you could complain about this part not being too scientific, but a lungful is a lungful, and there isn't TOO much variation between peoples' smoke capacities.)
4. Sit back and be stoned for a while... and get ready to pack that G-Bong.(Of course, after recording on paper how many hits you got)
5. Pick off more weed from the bud, exactly 1/10 of a gram, weighed carefully on the scale.
6. Pack the weed into the g-bong bowl. Again, make sure that the surface of the smoking material is flat and level as possible, with not too many bumps and divets (minimize those variables)
7. Smoke the G-Bong, taking your normal G-Bong hits, i guess. Whatever you feel comfortable with. Don't take any whimp-shit hits, take real g-bong hits. Again, make sure as to not let the flame of the lighter make contact with any of your smoking material.
8. Record on paper how many hits you got.
Make necessary observations.
Compare Results.
This is a fun experiment that all kids can do at home, with simple household materials! Isn't science fun, kids?!
m0rbid abyss
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no "crap" theres no need to be pissed off, relax my mellow fellow
drgreenthumb00
Bluelighter
i have used a gravity bong a few times..
the downfall to them is that it burns up like a whole bowl in one rip.
on the upside it knocks you and your lungs on the ground
the downfall to them is that it burns up like a whole bowl in one rip.
on the upside it knocks you and your lungs on the ground
Sleepieguy
Bluelighter
the weed gets smoked thats the point at the end of both your arguments
H1erophant
Bluelighter
Contrary to what most people are saying I've found that gravity bongs tend to use much less pot then just smoking a bowl or dubie. For the bowl of the gravity bong I used to hit all the time was a tiny little ratchet. I measured it out and if you fill it up all the way it held like 1/3rd of a gram. That would fill a medium size snapple bottle up one and a half times and really all I ever needed was one though there was a few times when I needed two for it to really put me into another place. The bottle was always completely filled with smoke, theres no way you could have seen through it if someone pulled it right. But then again I limit myself to smoking at the most 3 or possibly 4 times a week so I might be a light weight.
Also I recommend the medium size snapple bottles because you can just poke holes in the bottom instead of cutting it completely off as I've seen some people do with 2-liter bottles of soda. Less smoke escapes that way if you over pull it. If you're intent on using a 2-liter or even a 3-liter bottle of soda then I suggest you get a deep bucket and put holes in the bottom instead of cutting the bottom off. Also, if you've got an extra 10 or 15 bucks cheap bong slides work extremely well.
Edit: forgot to mention smoking a glass pipe it usually takes me 1 and a half bowls to get me where one gb hit takes me and 1 and a half glass pipe bowls(with the one I usually use anyways) is like 1/2 to 3/4s of a gram depending on how well it's packed and the density of the bud.
Also I recommend the medium size snapple bottles because you can just poke holes in the bottom instead of cutting it completely off as I've seen some people do with 2-liter bottles of soda. Less smoke escapes that way if you over pull it. If you're intent on using a 2-liter or even a 3-liter bottle of soda then I suggest you get a deep bucket and put holes in the bottom instead of cutting the bottom off. Also, if you've got an extra 10 or 15 bucks cheap bong slides work extremely well.
Edit: forgot to mention smoking a glass pipe it usually takes me 1 and a half bowls to get me where one gb hit takes me and 1 and a half glass pipe bowls(with the one I usually use anyways) is like 1/2 to 3/4s of a gram depending on how well it's packed and the density of the bud.
Morrison's Lament
Bluelighter
Kanaba: We have gone way far from the original point here, man, all I am saying is that whatever you may think about burning speeds and such that doesn't mean that the GB is wasteful in any way. It just doesn't matter nearly enough to make a meaningful difference - in my experience and most others the GB is extremely efficient for whatever reasons.
I've done some scientific experimentation with them myself - the end result was that I was stoned off my ass
Peace,
--- G.
I've done some scientific experimentation with them myself - the end result was that I was stoned off my ass
Peace,
--- G.
Morrison's Lament
Bluelighter
Same where I'm from - but them pesky Amreekans like to call them Gravity Bongs
--- G.
--- G.