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blimey charlie

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Hi all
I dont know if i have put this thread in correct place ? so ill apologise now admin :).
Well i am a opioid addict but because i became one via prescription and also held down job, had own home. i fooled myself into believing hey im ok not like others.big mistake ! big, big mistake. anyway long story short i worked my way as we do from codeine to dhc tried tramadol along the way but not as good for me as dhc.
Then as back became worse i finally got put on oxycontin and oxycodone which in uk is un heard of.
ANYWAY again cutting years out i ended up with a huge scrip every four weeks but i was still falling short .so u can imagine what amount i was on.8(
Three times i tried to quit but people in us or people in uk, who every tried coming of these or other strong opioids will know all the awfull wd effects :(

so wham in my head due to work kids id again say i need them back and carry on with them.i also felt i couldnt talk to dr as manger of my doctors was a friend. anyway i did say to doc enough( to not get me took of them just in case ) but that id like try something else .so he put me on gabapentin.

well even though ive only joined bluelight recently ive been looking on it years so as soon as got gabapentin i seen some threads saying they helped a lot with withdrawals .so i was also thinking i wanted to stop oxys and that i was getting out of hand with them :(.

so lol i do ramble on getting to what thread about. i am now on day 8 of oxy wd :) and i was taking 400mg to 500mg a day and i swear that this is best wd ever due to the gabapentin. ive had no sweats and we got heatwave in uk at min.lol.. and no restless legs.no wd effects at all. it also makes u feel pretty chilled at same time im also doing things which in other wd i would be aching that much that i couldnt move. Also the best bit for some reason weather this is my own mind i dont even want any oxy :)..... now a word of caution i am aware that wd of gabapentin can be bad and also tolerance builds quick but im still on quite a low dose compared to some threads ive read.so i will monitor this.

But i want to say to others if they thinking of wd try this.unless of course u allergic to ingredients etc...its worth a shot..its cheap so doctors dont mind prescribing it either..it as DEFO without a doubt brought me this far...but of course im no doctor and we all different but this as defo been amazing for me.so fingers crossed i carry on.im just taking one day at a time..:):)
 
Good shout of your doc to try gabapentin. If I could pick I'd take pregabalin (Lyrica) instead, it feel just a bit cleaner and stronger than gabapentin to me, but both work well for coming off painkillers. Good for mood and physical relaxation/floatiness, plus it makes me eat.
I don't get much in the way of physical dependence with pregabalin as long if I keep my dosages moderate and spaced out (else I get some rebound nervousness from it). Tolerance goes up fast but comes down soon too.
 
Pregabalin is prescribed in the UK but quite rarely compared to America and places as it's apparently very expensive. It definitely is prescribed though cos I've known people with scripts for it.

Congrats on getting this far and glad to hear the gabapentin is helping significantly. That's no small cluck you must have going on there - best of luck but almost sounds like you barely need it. Interesting, Have never tried pregas for w/d (never come across gabapentin myself). Have tried them recreationally and found them useless but as a cluck palliative that does sound like it could make a lot more sense.

Keep us posted if you please and welcome to BL :)
 
Lucky you had a doctor who was prepared to prescribe you the gabapentin. Glad the withdrawal is going well, that's no small amount to come off. Keep pushing.:)

I came off 24mg buprenorphine a couple of months ago and a combination of pregabalin (which was unprescribed) and lofexidine (prescribed) pretty much totally did a number on the wd symptoms. I had loads of other meds two but a base of those two and a sleeper made the detox quite bearable, full on zombie mode though.
 
thanks for welcome.
for some reason ive never been a benzo person ive got in cupboard 20mg tamazepam and not bothered with them ??? dont know why ? but its defo good thing.lol. i was thinking of using them for wd but so far not needing them..
i had enough problems with oxys :(.that dose wasnt doing anything for me as high as it was anymore. and i had as i say every 4 weeks two box,s of 40mg sr also tw0 10mg slr plus two 20mg fr and two 10mg fr..so a fair few and i was falling short by five days . wasnt good at all..
my doc is great with gabapentin in fact he wanted me to be cutting back on oxys due to age. so more than happy to give me gabapentin,

I dont know if its my mind this time as i defo wanna quit oxys or the gabapentin,maybe bit of both ? as wd symptoms before have by day 3 got me reaching for oxys again:( /But this time as i say im just fishing day 8 of no oxys :).. and feel ok.only thing i feel is in mornings i get tummy pain .(well i did its gone of now a bit ) but then id take the gabapentin and if really bad couple of parocetomals .if i need it also doc also gave me naproxen but only took it once and half the dose..

so fingers crossed im going to carry on.as i say i dont even want oxys ,my scrip was due 5 days ago and i didnt get them :)..which for me is blinking good lol :)
 
I've been rather down on pregabalin since trying it so never would've even considered gabapentin as it's the same only even weaker. I must admit you (and Owen) are starting to sell me on it as an opie w/d palliative though. Not that I need one right now but handy to know for the next time if there is a next time.

Stick with it, Blimey :)

(sorry, can't call you 'charlie' cos the (greatly missed) eadder who went by that name is too special a person to be getting confused with anybody with a similar nick)
 
forgot to add also im eating which as others may know who going through wd you defo normally dont want to eat, in fact im eating more than i did when on oxys.
 
Blimey is a fine, fine word. One of my faves as it happens. Just so happens we had an especially well-loved (and sadly since deceased) member who went by the name of Charlie Clean who will be forever Charlie around these parts.

Forum nicks are odd things. You pick 'em in a moment and get stuck with 'em forever. Unless you become a mod and get to change it (thankfully - should see what my original nick was 8().
 
Shambles said:
I've been rather down on pregabalin since trying it so never would've even considered gabapentin as it's the same only even weaker. I must admit you (and Owen) are starting to sell me on it as an opie w/d palliative though. Not that I need one right now but handy to know for the next time if there is a next time.
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Fucking hell yeah there is no question that they have a remarkably strong effect on opiate withdrawal. I couldn't tell you the pharmokinetics behind it (and I doubt there is anyone that really can), but they have a vastly stronger effect on symptoms than would be suggested by the level of GABA activity alone. Definitely something going on that is either not understood or being kept behind closed doors at the moment.
 
aww . i know ? as i say dont know why i went with it especially as im female ? lol..
wanted to ask i dont want to go to high dose of gab as others have said tolerance build quick.. would it hurt do u suppose if i had say 5 or 10mg dose of tamazapm one night instead of gab ? but maybe not as opioid tolerance pretty high ? isnt it strange u take massive doses of oxy but worry about 5 or 10mg of tamazapam...:\ .just wondered if there any contradictions ?
 
i agree most defo with owen :D .i dont know why or how and im not smart enough to work out the pharmokinteics behind it ..all i know is for me its been amazing and this is 4th time wd so defo know what it feels like without..
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
Fucking hell yeah there is no question that they have a remarkably strong effect on opiate withdrawal. I couldn't tell you the pharmokinetics behind it (and I doubt there is anyone that really can), but they have a vastly stronger effect on symptoms than would be suggested by the level of GABA activity alone. Definitely something going on that is either not understood or being kept behind closed doors at the moment.
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It is a bit of a conundrum that. I mainly think of it/them as like benzoa without any of the good bits and much more of the shitty bits. Following that logic it seemed to me they'd be even less effective than benzos for opi w/d (ie may help a bit but mostly not half as much as you wished they would). Shame we don't have as many chemistry bods about these parts as we used to to chip in with some thoughts cos am starting to think you fellas may be on to something that's not obvious if you've only tried (and obviously failed) to find recreational use for the things.

blimey charlie said:
aww . i know ? as i say dont know why i went with it especially as im female ? lol..
wanted to ask i dont want to go to high dose of gab as others have said tolerance build quick.. would it hurt do u suppose if i had say 5 or 10mg dose of tamazapm one night instead of gab ? but maybe not as opioid tolerance pretty high ? isnt it strange u take massive doses of oxy but worry about 5 or 10mg of tamazapam...:\ .just wondered if there any contradictions ?
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I'd stick with the gabapentin if it were I. Temaz won't touch the sides of a w/d like yours and certainly not at doses like that. You'd be looking at least 10x the doses you mention to even begin to take the edge off. Temaz is (arguably) the King of the Benzos. Unlike most other benzos they are actually good just on their own. Also brilliant for insomnia. Save 'em for a rainy day and stick to your gabapentin script given it's working so well for you would be my advice. And bear in mind gabapentin is a lot weaker than pregabalin so there's plenty room for tolerance and tapering if needs be - which shouldn't need to be as you're using it for an acute situation. Just don't continue taking them past the point you need to and you'll be dandy :)

omen_owen mk2 said:
I never got the privilege.:p
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That's cos when you last modded we were on dial-up so it just took too long for any change to take effect :p
 
THANKS shambles for advice.. tomorrow im going to cut back on gab see how i go as i say im still on low dose,,1200mg through out day ( prescribed dose is 900mg a day ) but taking them for wd most people say you need a lot bigger dose .. ive done a lot of reading about these and from what i gather they work better for some than others.as do most meds. as we know.. but they also work better for most people when spread out thoughout the day ..
 
^ If it's working it's working. That's all that matters. I've taken pregas at the same doses you mention and did fuck all (for me) on their own but in combo with ket I've never fallen on my arse so often in my life. Add in phenibut and it just got ridiculous. Sounds to me like you're still at pretty low dose considering 500mg of oxy habit. Don't worry too much. There's still plenty of leeway. Don't rush w/d cos that only leads to relapse. Take it steady and reduce as and when you can. Every day without the oxy is a day closer to getting a proper handle on it. A few weeks - or even a few months - on gabapentin is not the end of the world. If anything like benzos it takes a goodly while to produce any significant w/d. Not that that's a reason to take the piss with 'em but in perspective it is vastly the lesser of two evils.

SummerSerenade said:
Nothing useful to add to the actual thread but until last week I always thought your name was owen_owen rather than omen_owen. The realisation shocked me. To be fair, they do look very similar though.
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That was quite useful actually cos I never noticed that til you just pointed it out either. Live 'n' learn, eh?
 
ok thanks again..ive also read that Tramadol with gabapentin is good but Tramadol never did owt for me . got loads in cupboard as other half as them but for me they where useless..
 
Tramadol is a horrible drug. At least it is if you become addicted to it. It's not just an opioid but also an SNRI (antidepressant) which means when it's time to quit you have double w/d to deal with. And they last three months. At least they did for me. Both times I got myself addicted to the shit and quit. I flushed half a carrierbag full of 'em down the toilet not so long back. That's how bad they are.
 
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