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Policy GOP presidential candidate supports decriminalizing even hard drugs

LucidSDreamr

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The Vivek guy. He has no chance in hell of winning but it’s very cool to hear him say this. I’m sad he didn’t back it up with the statistics and reasons…his only reason was basically “sometimes people mean to do one drug and somebody put something dangerous in it they didn’t know about (fent I assume)…then that person dies before they can get help."

As you can see from the user comments in the news article republican voters crucified him for saying it….they’re sticking with the RICO espionage rapist guy that’s going to prison.

 
Reasons not to get behind this goofball:
  • he sought to appeal to evangelical Christian right and Christian nationalist voters, [...] Ramaswamy has criticized secularism. He said that the U.S. was founded on "Christian values" or "Judeo-Christian values"
  • Ramaswamy is a vocal supporter of Donald Trump. [He] promised to pardon him if elected president
  • He suggested that if nominated, he might consider Democrat Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as his running mate.
  • He supports state-level six-week abortion bans,
  • Ramaswamy favors raising the voting age to 25, with exceptions, [...] he would allow citizens between 18 and 24 to vote only if they are enlisted in the military, work as first responders, or pass a civics test. He is also in favor of [...] requiring Voter ID to cast a ballot. (all things to conveniently exclude the more liberal leaning 21-24yo group, also Voter ID just makes voting more confusing and harder for the disenfranchised - voter fraud is not really a problem in USA)
  • Ramaswamy supports expanding presidential power, pledging to rule by executive fiat to a degree unprecedented among modern U.S. presidents. (read: he wants to be a dictator) He supports abolishing and replacing the Department of Education, FBI, and IRS.
  • Ramaswamy has pledged to "use our military to annihilate the Mexican drug cartels", yet he has described himself as "not a war on drugs person" (??? Who wants a useless war with Mexico, raise your hand! ... I don't see any hands.)
  • Ramaswamy argues that identity politics promotes a "victimhood" culture that needs to be replaced with a "merit" culture that promotes excellence. He also opposes affirmative action, calling it the "single biggest form of institutionalized racism in America today", and vowing to rescind Executive Order 11246 if elected. (which basically bans discrimination based upon race, sex, age, religion etc, in Federal contractors doing jobs over $10,000) Ramaswamy has also argued that American-style capitalism provides an antidote to India's caste system by offering lower-caste citizens more economic opportunities. He opposes teaching critical race theory. (thinly veiled racist dogwhistles)
  • Ramaswamy has taken no public position on the 2017 Trump tax cuts. (so he's OK with the rich getting big cuts) [...] he expressed support for an inheritance tax rate as high as 59% and criticized intergenerational transfers of wealth, writing that they create "hereditary aristocracy". (which is the only large payment many poorer people will ever get in their life: more wealthy people have investments they can transfer without incurring tax)
  • Ramaswamy favors "major concessions to Russia" in the Russo-Ukrainian war. He favors ending U.S. military aid to Ukraine, excluding Ukraine from NATO (saying he is "dead-set opposed" to it), and allowing Russia to occupy regions of Ukraine in exchange for an agreement that Russia end its alliance with China. (about as likely to happen as Charlie Sheen staying sober for 48 hours)
  • Ramaswamy has said that he is "not a climate denier" but sees global climate change as "not entirely bad" and has said that "people should be proud to live a high-carbon lifestyle. Ramaswamy accepts that burning fossil fuels causes climate change, but has called for the U.S. to "drill, frack, burn coal" and asserted that extracting and using more fossil fuels would grow the economy and help pay for climate change mitigation. He has criticized what he calls the "climate cult" and said that as president, he would "abandon the anticarbon framework as it exists" and halt "any mandate to measure carbon dioxide". (the Ostrich Approach: the problem does not exist if you stop measuring it. Also, we should literally pollute way more.)

There are more but that's just one section of his Wiki page.

The guy has no hope in Hell to be elected. But please look at the bigger picture: decriminalizing drugs is good, but not if the US turns to a literal Christian dictatorship that starts a massive war in Mexico over drugs, all while our environment is raped and pillaged even further,
 
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Reasons not to get behind this goofball:
  • he sought to appeal to evangelical Christian right and Christian nationalist voters, [...] Ramaswamy has criticized secularism. He said that the U.S. was founded on "Christian values" or "Judeo-Christian values"
  • Ramaswamy is a vocal supporter of Donald Trump. [He] promised to pardon him if elected president
  • He suggested that if nominated, he might consider Democrat Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as his running mate.
  • He supports state-level six-week abortion bans,
  • Ramaswamy favors raising the voting age to 25, with exceptions, [...] he would allow citizens between 18 and 24 to vote only if they are enlisted in the military, work as first responders, or pass a civics test. He is also in favor of [...] requiring Voter ID to cast a ballot. (all things to conveniently exclude the more liberal leaning 21-24yo group, also Voter ID just makes voting more confusing and harder for the disenfranchised - voter fraud is not really a problem in USA)
  • Ramaswamy supports expanding presidential power, pledging to rule by executive fiat to a degree unprecedented among modern U.S. presidents. (read: he wants to be a dictator) He supports abolishing and replacing the Department of Education, FBI, and IRS.
  • Ramaswamy has pledged to "use our military to annihilate the Mexican drug cartels", yet he has described himself as "not a war on drugs person" (??? Who wants a useless war with Mexico, raise your hand! ... I don't see any hands.)
  • Ramaswamy argues that identity politics promotes a "victimhood" culture that needs to be replaced with a "merit" culture that promotes excellence. He also opposes affirmative action, calling it the "single biggest form of institutionalized racism in America today", and vowing to rescind Executive Order 11246 if elected. (which basically bans discrimination based upon race, sex, age, religion etc, in Federal contractors doing jobs over $10,000) Ramaswamy has also argued that American-style capitalism provides an antidote to India's caste system by offering lower-caste citizens more economic opportunities. He opposes teaching critical race theory. (thinly veiled racist dogwhistles)
  • Ramaswamy has taken no public position on the 2017 Trump tax cuts. (so he's OK with the rich getting big cuts) [...] he expressed support for an inheritance tax rate as high as 59% and criticized intergenerational transfers of wealth, writing that they create "hereditary aristocracy". (which is the only large payment many poorer people will ever get in their life: more wealthy people have investments they can transfer without incurring tax)
  • Ramaswamy favors "major concessions to Russia" in the Russo-Ukrainian war. He favors ending U.S. military aid to Ukraine, excluding Ukraine from NATO (saying he is "dead-set opposed" to it), and allowing Russia to occupy regions of Ukraine in exchange for an agreement that Russia end its alliance with China. (about as likely to happen as Charlie Sheen staying sober for 48 hours)
  • Ramaswamy has said that he is "not a climate denier" but sees global climate change as "not entirely bad" and has said that "people should be proud to live a high-carbon lifestyle. Ramaswamy accepts that burning fossil fuels causes climate change, but has called for the U.S. to "drill, frack, burn coal" and asserted that extracting and using more fossil fuels would grow the economy and help pay for climate change mitigation. He has criticized what he calls the "climate cult" and said that as president, he would "abandon the anticarbon framework as it exists" and halt "any mandate to measure carbon dioxide". (the Ostrich Approach: the problem does not exist if you stop measuring it. Also, we should literally pollute way more.)

There are more but that's just one section of his Wiki page.

The guy has no hope in Hell to be elected. But please look at the bigger picture: decriminalizing drugs is good, but not if the US turns to a literal Christian dictatorship that starts a massive war in Mexico over drugs, all while our environment is raped and pillaged even further,
That's my guy...
 
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Theocracies are so passé

If you don’t believe me try this thought experiment: think of the worst, most infamous and repressive dictatorships in recent history (so, like the 20th century to today). Now ask yourself: how many were based upon religious principles, and used such principles as ideological validation and motivation for action?

Other than a few backwaters/petrostates in the Middle East, I’m struggling to think of any. Nobody seriously believes that shit anymore
 
He's the most interesting candidate this go round, I'd much rather see him win than Biden or Trump.
 
I would vote for Trump before I voted for this lunatic.

If he won the result would be disastrous.
 
How are you gonna use dope when they (conveniently) never bother to decriminalize drugs?
After all, it's Big Business taking bribes from cartels, locking people up and forcing them to work for pennies an hour, stealing their funds, drugs, and possessions, and also the whole "detox" industry of milking thousands of dollars from desperate individuals for treatments that have no provable effect on reducing drug use. (and conveniently are forced upon many of those caught with drugs as an alternative to imprisonment.)
Giving people narcotics at market prices doesn't make anywhere near the same profits. A handful of hydromorphone pills makes a miniscule profit as opposed to the multi-thousand dollar bribe to the cops, the sale of lethal mystery mixes of drugs as "heroin" for upwards of $200K/kilo (assuming $20 per 100mg dose, realistically $20 buys you less than 1/3 of that some places - meaning profits triple). Then the dealers either spend it to help the economy, or they get busted and the State claims all their drug profits. And you can even extract bribes from the more successful dealers. Then, any user caught with dope, their wallets can mysteriously be empty every time.

The notion that Ramaswamy would make anything better for anyone except his elite cadre and the billionaire class is laughable.
 
I remember some GOP senator or congressman speaking at some event some years back. He made the point that legalizing heroin is actually in line with the core of Republican values, about the government not telling people what to do.

He wasn't seriously suggesting it, but technically it is something they should agree with in principle.

I forgot who it was but it's on YouTube.
 
I remember some GOP senator or congressman speaking at some event some years back. He made the point that legalizing heroin is actually in line with the core of Republican values, about the government not telling people what to do.

He wasn't seriously suggesting it, but technically it is something they should agree with in principle.

I forgot who it was but it's on YouTube.
It’s in line with libertarian values which republicans like to act like they are libertarian when they’re are the farthest from it.

Basically a republican that smokes weed thinks they’re a libertarian the term has become so bastardized
 
Credit where credit's due. Good on him for taking on this position, which is highly unpopular within his party.
 
I remember some GOP senator or congressman speaking at some event some years back. He made the point that legalizing heroin is actually in line with the core of Republican values, about the government not telling people what to do.

He wasn't seriously suggesting it, but technically it is something they should agree with in principle.

I forgot who it was but it's on YouTube.
Legalizing heroin would also alleviate the fentanyl crisis, no?
 
Tulsi Gabbard also wants to decriminalize drugs
She's way better. She way better run again in 2024. God save the queen!
 
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