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Good starting dose for 20x Salvia

Black Rabbit of Inle

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I just got some Salvia delivered and I'm going to titrate up, aiming for a breakthrough experience. I have decent scales and don't want to use measurements like 'a pinch'. It's been over 2 years since my first foray into the Salvia world so I want to tread lightly.

The website I ordered from didn't mention if it was standardized and I didn't receive a reply when I emailed to ask if it was, so I'm assuming that it isn't.

I have enough that I am also going to experiment with some oral dosing, so if anyone has methods that they have personally tried, I would be grateful for their input.
 
If it's not standardised, as in not an extract, titration isn't a worry, it'll be very weak. 20/40/50x extracts can produce overwhelmingly powerful effects, I'd make sure you know what you'e dealing with. I've not oral dosed; I believe fresh salvia is often dosed buccally, but swallowing salvia is new on me, I must say. My advice would be to buy some scales, or divide the whole lot up by eye at the start (Fermi effects make this surprisingly effective). Or, volumetric liquid dosing, or even volumetric solid dosing (coke spoon? end of a drinking straw?). Safe travelling, whatever you do. Maybe best to be on the ol' ground floor.
 
It is an extract, just no mention of whether it's standardized or not (a measured dose vs an extract evaporated on leaf matter without measuring the dose contained).

And I already mentioned I have decent scales to work with.
 
Hi Black Rabbit, the threshold dose of Salvinorin starts at 200 mics and the average potency of unextracted leaf is around 2.5mg / gram, so if your 20x is standardized, you would expect threshold levels at around 4 mg of extract, and decent effects from around 20 mg of extract (approx 1mg savinorin).
If your extract isn't standardized, then chances are that it is weaker, so reducing the need for weighing each dose. The 20x that I have atm is threshold level at half a cone and breakthrough level at a massive mountain sized cone. I also have 100x (doses at 3 to 7 mg tops), which i am looking forward to delving into, for it will require less hot smoke to break through.
Extracts with potencies of less than like 40x or so, do not really require scales imo. Just gradually increase cone size and you will find a level you are comfortable with.
I hope this helped. Have fun :)
 
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