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RCs good god, MDPV withdrawal after 1000mg binge, seriously?
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jaredvillhelm2002
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Christ god you know i've heard bad things about meth but i witnessed it first hand also... Some people will in their all consuming addiction turn into and become those monsters and poor souls you see on tv... are they monsters or worthless rejects? You decide yourself... but as with anything if you use as pure of a form as possible, start with very very low doses and dose up from there until you reach a comfortable high or rush you can maintain yourself and with will power and actively using your reasoning centers in your brain you can control the desire to try to go higher... But ultimately human greed and fallability claim victim to many... the worst of these are consumed entirely and their sole drive is to acquire more of it through any means necessary... Lets say meth is pretty addictive... But if you can play it safe toe the razors edge and use rational thinking and decision making you can enjoy the amazing high of meth... MDPV... this... this drug i have heard stories about... and i have never to my knowledge (which may be woefully lacking) heard of this drug on national or even local television news... but what i have read what i have heard is it is on par with or a close second to meth in strength and it requires a much much lower amount then meth to cause terrible side effects in people... My only thought is it must provide a very unique high that people might exclusively crave and it might be cheaper and more accessible in areas other than mine... All i can say is that i have heard horror stories about this drug and seeing that only 1000mgs of this caused such horrifying side effects i cant see what would cause people besides a lack of an alternative to use this drug... 1000mgs of meth hell as a start up user you could safely use 400mgs a day and with a fairly high confidence safely use 500mgs a day... So i beg the question meth is more powerful takes much much more to cause drastic reality altering side effects so what drives people to use MDPV???
The answer is simple -- it's probably the most physically nontoxic stim out there, period, with few peripheral sides (even at outrageous dosages) and little chance of immediate organ damage. So it can be abused beyond the limits of sanity without causing any serious or lasting physical harm (if it couldn't, people wouldn't be doing it and we wouldn't be seeing so many reports similar to this one).
P.S. I would add that (IME) when mixed with *any other substance*, the above qualifier disappears and it can be very dangerous stuff in combination with other drugs. Just don't do it.
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lolitaofott
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Anyone who's coming down thinks it's going to last forever... it won't... hang in there!
i roll balls
Bluelighter
Price, "legality", and many other factors not having a drug dealer / getting drug tested etc etc etc.
DO some drugs, in moderation if you will.
true that, ive been searching for withdrawl symptoms all night trying to come down easy. i heard its not as bad as meth or coke if u have any experience with them. (I havent) the point is, its hard to live a clean life and with any drug you wont find an answer. This has been an eye opening experience for me, mind me, a little off topic due to the positive effects of the experience. Im not a genius and no drug will help you become one. Even though u may feel very smart, thats because your dopamine will be depleting for 4-5 days after the initial doseage. Its important to acknnowledge the drug and its efffects because they are natural as the drug is not. Im not trying to relate here. This is just life experience because you will never achieve your goals binging on any drug. Its ok to experiment. Just know that you have a clear view of reality, and the drug will not take you there, its just a means to elevate this experience. If you are like me you suffering from ultimate dopamine withdrawl symptoms. Other drugs are not the answer. I may sound repetitive and uninteresting. Obviously the drug hasnt sank in to the point that i feel less motivated to write about it. So this much being said, i like to lead a spiritual and educated life. No its never going to be this easy. Just let it motivate you to reach that feeling again in _an average situation_. As any one that uses meth (ihavent and never will) would be a apart of any circle of dilusion they are experiencing in their productive/semi-productive lifestyle trying to gain this feeling they will never have unless they are high. So the point is again for any typical user to keep moving forward, and hope you wont succumb to a relapse in drugs, is stay clean of any drugs. You can unlock secrets. Lead a natural clean life and you should respect it like you should respect yourself. This is an eye opener for me, and i hope to shed light on any self-sufficient crack addict, that finds this advice welcoming or useful. I use to have some problems with coke myself but it is in no way as problematic as the similar drug. Unlock those areas in your life that your subconcious is demanding you to enter, and never look away(turn back around) from or above your problems. they are there for a reason. You are a good individual and special to this earth.. I hope this can do some good for you and your further journey in this life if you want to succeed into better means of individuality. And eventually you will be able to help others around you. With love, Care, And compassion. Ultimately truth is you goal and trust is a virtue. This much being said is a constant reminder that we can achieve anything we imagine. Not stupid goals ive heard meth users say they can move mountains. Realistically this is not a problem. we can move mountains but there is no need for it. Serve your subconcious and ultimately your purpose, because you are unique to this world. And every one in it is beautiful no matter their past experiences. Thank you for reading all the way through the token. You win. You just won life, as your goal. Keep searching grasshoppers and let the drug be theone you control instead of yourself being the one controlled by drug. Redundant and simple. Seacrest out.
BigMoMo123
Greenlighter
Been doing MDPV/Cloud 9 Bath Salts for over a month. Stronger than Coke, Meth, Speed. FACT. Not bragging. Not sure how to stop. Its everywhere. 600mg a week. Eyeballed doses. Maybe 5-20mg a day. With heavy pot use. 21 years old. Im yet to feel and negative effects other than not being hungry(which I eat). This last week mild vision cues... blinking white/yellow spots.... Not sure what do or how to go about stoping. Money is here, headshop a mile away... This shit is soooo bad. I know it looks like im talking good about it but IM NOT. Its so addicting. I started off trying it one weekend with a buddy. Have not stoped yet. Maybe 3 or 4 days somewhere within a month. On it right as this is being typed.... Stay away from Bath Salts/Mephadrone/MDPV..... JWH-018 was probably the best (RC) there was. IMO. pEaCe
ThatGuyWeAllKnow
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Well i guess the reason why anyone to do whatever they possibley can to get the same drug thats had horrid and potentially fatal or irreverable side effects is probaly theyre pre-exsisting self distructive personally. the comedown its pretty tuff indeed, worse than meth's IMHO. but i've come to find that its really the way in which you view it , that completely changes how much it will have control over you. the first time i did it i was feeling undiscribaly bad, i was even thinking that for what ever reason, i had just plunged into the worst depression of my life. but that was only due to my ignorance in the proper use of this drug...cuz while i was high on it(atleast for me) i had just felt the most amazing feelings i had ever felt or in fact even come close to imagining of such a feeling, so that alone kinda puts you in a extremely delieghtedly shocked feeling of "wow this changes everthing" and personally i think it quite hard to deny that it really WOULD amazing if you could constantly have that feeling for the rest of your life( but rationally thinking the phycial, psychological and finacial tolls would not be worth it in the end, im sure it does numbers on your body with daily exessice habitual use, and not to mention its effects on your mind after prolonged use which im sure is nothing anyone would want to go through) anyway at some point throughtout my (minor)binge i didnt even realize it untill then but i had a completely different attitude towards life, in terms of what i considered important and in the core of my believe system. and the weirdest thing was(and i guess you could say potentially very dangerous for people who dont even know what self contiplation is) is that i DID NOT notice the dramatic change in my behavior and the way i think! it was only many hours after words that i realized that the way i was thinking/believing, acting and behaving in ways completely irrelavent to the kind of person i was before i went on the binge. I have never noticed anything like this before with any other drug, were i unconsiously take on kind of a new personality, and wont even realize this until i contimplate about it.
(not a personality as in thought that i was somebody else, but in the
way that my wolrd COMPLETELY revolved around that initial PV feeling, my sense of security, wellbeing, confort, happyness, stablility and every other
emotion that makes life worth living depended if i still had access to whatever caused that wonderful high i was feeling then i seriously could not care less about anything else in the wolrd) so thats surely one of the many reasons you should NOT take this substance as a joke, and never let your guards down cuz addiction is right around the conner. you have to be smart to do tricky substances or its just a matter of time before theyre doing you. haha i feel like a retard trying to be witty, but its true, you really need to watch very carifully and dont give into those little "urges" especially with the large number of doses youll probally have laying around. i gave in to a "litle urges" cuz i was just going to do it once...3 days ago, i havent slept sence then. so you know how it is, if yout going to use then have a strict plan of how much for how long your gonna use it ...and make sure you stick to it!!!
anyway the point i was going to make in the beginning, about the comedown, is you have to know how to handel it, becuase the contrast in feeling is so dramatic, from the king of anything and everything getting blowjobs from superman or prefferably whoever the female equivalent is, to being the most threatened yet popular prision bitch in the whole penitentiary known for using his tears of pain for extra lube ...ofcouse its not going to be pleasnt so you must be prepeard. i think also most people feel soo amazing with the actuall effects, that they would never imagine the comedown would suck THAT much, then when the comedown comes and it hits them like a tuck, theyre taken by surprize. I could easily see it ruining someone whole day(s) if you werent prepared or didnt know it was going to be like THAT. but just keep your head strong and remember that those are artificial feelings from a synthetic drug, and dont give into or give power to the sad/depressive etc. type feelings becuase they are not truely coming from you, all they simply are, are extremely annoying side-effects, which you can dramaticly decrease the impact it has on you, once you learn how to deal with it them. everyone's different psychologically but for me it help a great deal to remind myself that those feelings have no validity to them what so ever, every drug has its side effects and this happens to be one of the side effects for this drug., and is just as pointless and completely lacking in purpose as all the other stupid side effects of drugs out there. So those are just false feelings, that have no real function or significance unless you impose significance on them, which would be dillusional given that those feelings where never present before so it was never part of your reality. So just be realistic and dont believe that those are YOUR feelings, becuase they are only pointless synthicly induced sensations that DO go away. so if you just so dont worry, dont let it bug you out, remind yourself that its just temperary. so just dismiss it as a useless missleading feeling and just ignore it(if that makes sense) and the comedown will be a hell of alot easier!!!!
P.S-also excuse any stupid misspelling or god knows what else ended up in here,im onyl on my 3rd up but my vision is already pretty damn blurrry.
caseface99
Bluelight Crew
Whens the last time soap checked in? This thread is kinda old and i don't think he's posted an update recently. Hope he's alright.
axe battler
Bluelight Crew
^^Yeah, I jumped when I saw this very special thread back at the top of the list! But alas, no Soap.
I hope he's just laying low and hopefully keeping out of trouble, hopefully writing a novel that will make William Burroughs' work look like that of a nun!
I still sometimes think of excerpts like "black mama with big hotcake nipples" and laugh to myself randomly. That kid has fucking style!
I hope he's just laying low and hopefully keeping out of trouble, hopefully writing a novel that will make William Burroughs' work look like that of a nun!
I still sometimes think of excerpts like "black mama with big hotcake nipples" and laugh to myself randomly. That kid has fucking style!
I know every time I open the MDPV threads I think, "where the fuck is soap?". One of the most hilarious posters here imo. Soap, if you're around, check in! let us how things are going :D
Hopefully nothing too terrible has happened.
caseface99
Bluelight Crew
I hope he didn't say fuck it and end up losing his mind. If everything he said was for serious than it's a real possibility that he went over the edge. ![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
BrokedownPalace
Bluelight Crew
He last logged on to bluelight on February 24th. I certainly hope he is okay, I know he was going through a huge load of crap in his life, and moved out of his house, problems with the wife, problems with the stims..
Hopefully he is okay, at least if he DID get sent to the mental ward he's off the PV and hopefully recuperating
Long Live McTavish !
Been damn near happening here too lately... after last night's/this morning's comedown, I'm not messing with MDPV again for awhile. The antidepressant I'm on (Effexor XR) seems to be adding some problems in terms of tweaking and trouble sleeping.I hope he didn't say fuck it and end up losing his mind. If everything he said was for serious than it's a real possibility that he went over the edge.
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NeighborhoodThreat
Bluelight Crew
I'm willing to bet both increased risks and unwanted effects...
I did look around some, and found no recommendations against it... for example, people are apparently prescribed adderall and such while they're on Effexor XR.
Of course, heavy binge-type use may be a different story, as you're dealing with a lot more norepinephrine-related issues, e.g. when vasoconstriction becomes an issue. I suspect that with "normal/sane" use of dopaminergic stimulants it's OK, otherwise it's likely to add to the risks and problems... but just guessing.
It certainly seems to affect/change the way I respond to MDPV, as compared to the way I used to before starting on it, which is not a big surprise... it's quite a powerful antidepressant, and in fact has helped me a lot in the mood department. Many people complain about it and its side effects, etc. but it seemed to help a lot, and very quickly, after I went on it.
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Vitamin Airplane
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I just found out that it does affect the potency of MDPV. I tried it and I totally forgot I just happened to be on Effexor. It did very little. I tried enough to send most people to the ER and I'm coming down about 5 hrs later without any real strong rush, buzz, or symptoms, besides not sleeping all night. I think SNRI's kind of cancel the effects. Luckily, it has an extremely short half life. I just wish I knew that before I wasted what would've lasted most people at least 10 doses. It is sounding more and more like it's not very harmful, as long as it's respected. I don't even believe it's bath salt. This stuff looks pretty pure and fine to me. I've read mostly good things about the brand I decided to try. The bad reviews seem to be those idiots who thought they'd do a whole line and flipped out after an obvious OD and a week or so of sleep deprivation.
This is what I ended up getting. Sounds good, if it effects me the way everyone else seems to be reporting. This guy didn't do his research and take precautions, though. 50mg?!!! Oh well, at least I got the purple container. Sounds like that's the one to get. Although, I don't think this guy knows what 50mg looks like! Shouldn't he have been sleepless for days if he tried that much?
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I just tried Tranquility, and I took more and more, and then found out the Effexor I'm on is kind of cancelling it out. I took enough to drive most people crazy and it didn't even give me a good rush, so ask your doc for those. Maybe they'll lighten up the effect of MDPV drastically like it did for me? I kept trying more and more, and nothing happened, so I looked it up and others notice it doesn't work as well if you're on Effexor, which is an SSNRI. It's probably any type of SSNRI. Luckily, it has a short half life (Like 5-7 hrs), so I should be able to try it for real in a few more hours. I've tried all the antidepressants and antipsychotics you have listed there. None were good for me, except Klonopin. I used to take that a lot, but now they don't really do anything for me, except make me sleep if I take enough. I don't like how I feel when I wake up though. They leave me dopey for the day. I used to eat them like candy and feel great. I guess I have a benzo tolerance from hell after all these years. Xanax isn't even good for anything anymore, except knocking me out and I have to take 3 or 4 of the bars that used to make me feel so good.
This is what I ended up getting. Sounds good, if it effects me the way everyone else seems to be reporting. This guy didn't do his research and take precautions, though. 50mg?!!! Oh well, at least I got the purple container. Sounds like that's the one to get. Although, I don't think this guy knows what 50mg looks like! Shouldn't he have been sleepless for days if he tried that much?
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I just tried Tranquility, and I took more and more, and then found out the Effexor I'm on is kind of cancelling it out. I took enough to drive most people crazy and it didn't even give me a good rush, so ask your doc for those. Maybe they'll lighten up the effect of MDPV drastically like it did for me? I kept trying more and more, and nothing happened, so I looked it up and others notice it doesn't work as well if you're on Effexor, which is an SSNRI. It's probably any type of SSNRI. Luckily, it has a short half life (Like 5-7 hrs), so I should be able to try it for real in a few more hours. I've tried all the antidepressants and antipsychotics you have listed there. None were good for me, except Klonopin. I used to take that a lot, but now they don't really do anything for me, except make me sleep if I take enough. I don't like how I feel when I wake up though. They leave me dopey for the day. I used to eat them like candy and feel great. I guess I have a benzo tolerance from hell after all these years. Xanax isn't even good for anything anymore, except knocking me out and I have to take 3 or 4 of the bars that used to make me feel so good.
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