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Good dose for 5-MEO-DMT

Given that the amount needed to pose a threat of toxicity is so high, I would take as much as you can - I IV'd 50mg, which was MANY times the "normal dose" .. but I couldn't have gained anything more from it, as it DESTROYED ME, I mean, 100% ego destruction, you REALLY feel as if your life is slipping away... and it's not like you could get in much trouble, as it's all over in a few minutes anyway...
If you're going to smoke it, for your first attempt I would use 20mg or so... after you experience it's most evil effects, you can work down to smaller doses to try and have trips you can 'manage' ..
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"If you're going to smoke it, for your first attempt I would use 20mg or so... after you experience it's most evil effects, you can work down to smaller doses to try and have trips you can 'manage' .."
Interesting way of looking at it I guess...
 
Phreex, no disrespect My Lord but this time you just babbled shit.
Still, you are fun to read.
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Diego Maradona. Y no hay nada más que hablar.
 
There is no "good" dose.
Particularly if you mean "good" to mean "pleasant."
Which is not to say that there is a "bad" dose either. Just think carefully before you smash your brian into those little itsy-bitsy crystals.
I would, perhaps, compare it to being kidnapped, tied up, threatened at gun point, etc. If you come through okay, it'll have been an "interesting experience". Not a nesc. pleasant one, though...
Brace for impact.
You are not ready.
 
As you may have gathered from the other posts here, this is not really a "fun" drug. I wouldn't go with what PhreeX said, since you will most likely have an incredibly traumatic experience and you'll never want to touch the stuff again. I say stick with the ole "start small, and work your way up" theory. So, probably 5 or 10mg for your first time.
-Astian
 
The LD-50 for 5-MeO-DMT is far higher then you think, so I say you smoke a SOLID 20mg - THE WORSE YOUR TRIP, THE MORE YOU GAIN .. but hey, do as you like, I just think it wouldnt be as special had it NOT been as terrifying as it was..
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The LD50 for LSD is far higher than you might think, too.
But I suppose you do have a point, PhreeX...
-Astian
 
The point being that even though you may have to take lots of the substance to be harmed physically, there is no way most people would want to do that for the sake of their mental health.
I thought my analogy was rather clear, but I guess not.
-Astian
 
Oh, LSD is a little differn't as it's so long acting - do to much and you can be in hell for 10-15 hours... 5-MeO-DMT lasts for a few minutes tops..
Dr. Tom admitted he thought I might have a breakdown - it's a chance you must take..
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nuthin' wrong with having a few mini-piles of 5 mg each set out (or even loaded in a second pipe/vaporizaing apparatus
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) & flashing 5 mg per hit (until you can't work the setup, or beg for your assistant/sitter to please stop, hehheh...) so as to sorta ease on down the road to 5MeO-DMT hyperspace... (& most people would say "stop!" after the second or third toke @ 5mg/puff...)
 
5-MeO-DMT makes DMT look like a babies play toy... a fuzzy toy with sparkles and puffy things... DMT can take you to a watered down "hyperspace", usually it's a fairly 'happy' experience... 5-MeO-DMT throws you into an evil hell, scary as all shit...
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Have you actually done DMT, PhreeX? If you do it at the right doses, it's not a "baby's play toy." If anything it's more intense than DMT, because it's much more visual. You do know that the dose required is a good deal higher than 5MeO, right?
-Astian
 
IV'd 250mg of DMT? Jesus, thats a big fucking rig! I smoked 5-MeO-DMT and used to to compare DMT - I have never injected DMT, as none of the DMT I have had would really prepare that well for an IV solution (the 5-MeO-DMT was a ready-to-inject solution from Sigma) ..
Anyway, I smoked a lot more DMT then 5-MeO-DMT, and even in horribly high amounts, while I had some REALLY INCREDIBLE trips, it was ALWAYS kinda enjoyable and the trips were not horribly difficult to 'guide' .. I will be fair, DMT is not really a "childs play thing" - I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that my first experience with the DMT family was 50mg 5-MeO-DMT (IV)... I tried to fight it... after THAT type of experience it's hard to have a "bad trip" (in perspective) ..
Everyone I know who has tried both agree that 5-MeO-DMT is a more "evil" drug, while DMT is more 'workable' ..
If I cant find a good source for DMT I will try a 250mg IV shot..
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