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Im_a_zero said:
There are reasons why some substances are illegal, and others legal..
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If you did some research you would see these "reasons" are more often than not based on things VERY unrelated to the ACTUAL saftey/potential harm/potential benefit/science of the substance. This is true for a whole host of substances including but not limited to MDMA (notice i did NOT say E)


Im_a_zero said:
And i totally agree with you, in that alcohol and tabacco kill more people than e..also, can destroy lives..
But the difference is, e can change/kill a person immediatly..
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Please post a link to the scientific research that has led you to this conclusion. I'd be VERY interested to see it. Also please post some comparison # between any instances you can find of imediate death (if you can find any) compared to say. . . penicillin, or aspirin, or shellfish.


Im_a_zero said:
You tell me why e isnt legal..
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If you are TRULEY curious there are plenty of places I could point you to although you'll have to be more specific as to what exactly "e" is as we all know now days it could be any number of things / combonations of things. I'm sure this has been extensivly covers on these forums.

Im_a_zero said:
Look, i dont give a shit what you do..I dont know you, or your situation..But, im allowed to give an opinion..I can swear on my grave that i would never EVER give my mom an illegal substance..It would make me feel so low, words could not describe..
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you're absolutely allowed your opinion.

Im_a_zero said:
Goodluck, and hopefully you and your mom kick the habit :)
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I too hope those with abusive habbits to ANY substance are one day able to be free of those addictions. Personally I've recently been able to overcome two big addictions I've faced, Nicotine and Caffine!! I'm exceptionally happy about both! I would argue those are two VERY difficult addictions to break.

o and P.S. while typing this thread I've forgotton who it was that said "and please stop saying PLUR" BUT. . . to that person. . .
PLUR = Peace Love Unity & Respect. Why on earth would you want people to STOP promoting those thigns towards each other? I can't think of a single instance where life would be better / more positive with LESS of ANY of those.
 
Wow man more power to you for getting your parents to try MDMA. I wish could have that kind of power in my parents. They are very closed minded and think they know everything even when they are proven wrong. Hope everything goes well. Good luck
 
this is an argument which has no right answer, but is rather opinionated..

That’s the thing, e could be anything..If you had a tablet of pure MDMA, then obviously your safe (as long as you took a proper dosage)

Im just saying, with e, you can die, purely because you don’t know what’s in it..if you test it or make it yourself, then that’s fine..
But that’s hardly the issue..MDMA has many immediate side effects, which would be worse than alcohol or tobacco..

E is illegal because of its short term side effects, and how it interferes with the bodies natural processes so intensively..

With legal drugs, they can kill you, but over a long period of time, so it doesnt raise a brow like other illegal substances.

If MDMA was so harmless, it would be manufactured legally

and, yes, i know of many people who have died from having just e..all usual doses, not because of too much/too little water consumption or because of an accident..purely due to thermal melt down..

and i said no to plur..only because of a personal issue..where im from, it doesnt mean anything anymore as the people that say it do the complete opposite..im against anything that promotes drug use amoungst teens, and i blame the rave scene, as it promotes an outlet for them to take drugs.
IMO, there should only be over 18 raves..and there are many reasons why i think that..

I know that last bit was way off topic, but thats what i think about E in general..

as im not a raver, ild say plur is associated with the rave scene, which in turn creates an outlet for underage drug use..am i right?
 
this is an argument which has no right answer, but is rather opinionated..

That’s the thing, e could be anything..If you had a tablet of pure MDMA, then obviously your safe (as long as you took a proper dosage)

Im just saying, with e, you can die, purely because you don’t know what’s in it..if you test it or make it yourself, then that’s fine..
But that’s hardly the issue..MDMA has many immediate side effects, which would be worse than alcohol or tobacco..

E is illegal because of its short term side effects, and how it interferes with the bodies natural processes so intensively..

With legal drugs, they can kill you, but over a long period of time, so it doesnt raise a brow like other illegal substances.

If MDMA was so harmless, it would be manufactured legally

and, yes, i know of many people who have died from having just e..all usual doses, not because of too much/too little water consumption or because of an accident..purely due to thermal melt down..

and i said no to plur..only because of a personal issue..where im from, it doesnt mean anything anymore as the people that say it do the complete opposite..im against anything that promotes drug use amoungst teens, and i blame the rave scene, as it promotes an outlet for them to take drugs.
IMO, there should only be over 18 raves..and there are many reasons why i think that..

I know that last bit was way off topic, but thats what i think about E in general..

as im not a raver, ild say plur is associated with the rave scene, which in turn creates an outlet for underage drug use..am i right?
 
mdma is illegal because those government types are scared.scared what would happen if me and you and everyone else were allowed to think on our own free will.it promtes your mind to work.to work out issues you have with yourself.hence why alcohol,which makes you really stupid and deppresses your mind instead of promoting it to work,is legal.they dont want you to think,they want you to watch tv and be content and brainwashed into beliving everthing you are told is true and correct.if mdma were legal maybe we as humans could figure out some of the questions rergarding life and thought and be able to see the world through completley open eyes and minds.and solve some of the problems that plague todays society.insted of just conforming and doing what you are told.

its illegal because they are afraid............ we dont promote children to do anything that could be harmful such as watching television or buying crap from corporations which care nothing about the harmful products they push
 
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this thread has gone downhill very quickly.

olskoolrollrz: if you and your mother are close, that's wonderful. i hope both of you can enjoy MDMA and everything it has to offer. good luck :)

any further personal attacks will result in a warning. this is obviously a hot issue and pushes the buttons of some people but that doesn't give anyone the right to attack others or put them down. we all have views that we're entitled to express but PLEASE, keep it at an adult level. we're intelligent human beings here and there is no reason we shouldn't be able to carry on a civil debate.
 
olskoolrollrz said:
you got it backwards generation,my mom introduced me to illegal drugs when i was 16 years old.....about 20 years ago.she then said .....if you gonna get high do it at home....im still gettin her bags 19 years later....and oh yea we have a kick ass relasionship....shes more like a good friend than a parent.and i think she will love it ..................namaste
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Everyone pay attention to this quote.

His mom introduced HIM to illegal drugs; they obviously have some sort of weird relationship going. Thus, I don't see how olskool returning the favor is out of the ordinary, at least in the context of his relationship with his mom.

She's obviously some hippy type lol, I'm sure she will appreciate the new experience. Personally, I already find my mom very annoying and while I love her I can't stand being around her, so I can't really relate to the OP.

But.... 8( ... to the lady who said that it's normal for her son to have a crush on her, that is NOT normal. get some help woman!!:| 8) 8( 8o 8o
 
Im_a_zero said:
im not being negative at all, im just giving my advice and bringing in some common sense.
Some people in this thread act like e is god, and brings a 'closeness' to a relationship, in which theres no other way to achieve..

There are reasons why some substances are illegal, and others legal..
And i totally agree with you, in that alcohol and tabacco kill more people than e..also, can destroy lives..
But the difference is, e can change/kill a person immediatly..

You tell me why e isnt legal..

Look, i dont give a shit what you do..I dont know you, or your situation..But, im allowed to give an opinion..I can swear on my grave that i would never EVER give my mom an illegal substance..It would make me feel so low, words could not describe..

Personally, i think you and your mom should kick the drug habit..you can even do it after you roll with her..just do it soon..

and no, i dont abuse drugs..

"you really are a zero....if you are not going to give advice,or say something possibly helpful,then dont even comment .noone wants to hear your negativity you racist fuck"

Jesus, stating the logic isnt helpful?

Goodluck, and hopefully you and your mom kick the habit :)
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Do some research, and come back to us. You're preaching to people who know the facts. You've fallen for the scaremongering propagana, my friend. You know that your country has a movement speaking out against MDMA laws, going on right now? You should read this and this.
 
Some people in this thread act like e is god, and brings a 'closeness' to a relationship, in which theres no other way to achieve..
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The god part is flawed, but the closeness in the relationship is no joke.
 
Im_a_zero said:
im not being negative at all, im just giving my advice and bringing in some common sense.
Some people in this thread act like e is god, and brings a 'closeness' to a relationship, in which theres no other way to achieve..

There are reasons why some substances are illegal, and others legal..
And i totally agree with you, in that alcohol and tabacco kill more people than e..also, can destroy lives..
But the difference is, e can change/kill a person immediatly..

You tell me why e isnt legal..

Look, i dont give a shit what you do..I dont know you, or your situation..But, im allowed to give an opinion..I can swear on my grave that i would never EVER give my mom an illegal substance..It would make me feel so low, words could not describe..

Personally, i think you and your mom should kick the drug habit..you can even do it after you roll with her..just do it soon..

and no, i dont abuse drugs..

"you really are a zero....if you are not going to give advice,or say something possibly helpful,then dont even comment .noone wants to hear your negativity you racist fuck"

Jesus, stating the logic isnt helpful?

Goodluck, and hopefully you and your mom kick the habit :)
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Thank you. People are getting mad at us for being realists.
 
it's also a reality that not everyone turns into a non productive druggie after using MDMA.
 
I agree. But there are many negative effects from doing drugs. Even if the drug is MDMA.
 
havnt done yet waiting for pure molly to come round will def.let everyone know thanks forALL the comments
 
olskoolrollrz said:
havnt done yet waiting for pure molly to come round will def.let everyone know thanks forALL the comments
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smart man. . .



*sigh* aren't we all
 
yo, i think this is a good thread. I haven't really thought of family involvement in rolling until now, and cxsx has a great original post, and i'm so happy that things can be that good, for anyone! As for the original post, it's years ago now, so my opinion on how to act in that situation matters little, unless people will do it after reading this in the future. for them, i say know your shit. if you've been around the good block, and bad block of rolling, you know how to control it, and you can help others to do the same. I don't think rolling can solve problems, but it can increase optimism and happiness, and vibes are a HUGE part of interpersonal relationships, and if you can get everyone the best vibes ever, then why not suggest they try it, i don't know about for a year, but I don't think there's nearly as much potential for E to hurt as it has to help anyone. ROLL ON ROLLERS, keep the nightlife and substance alive in our cultures!
 
oh, ok, it wasnt years ago, woops, was looking at join dates, sry. anyways, yea, let us know how it goes. Don't heed the negative comments too much, unless you notice the merit within them, which should never be ignored. but honestly, the positive ones are a lot better. Keep postin, yall!
 
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