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TDS Going to be Hurtin for the 1st time -Coming off Heroin

Hockey, you're a beast buddy. I know how scary withdrawals are, I've been through them so many times. Remember that no matter what, you can do this. We're all here to support you through this tough time and we can all relate to what you're going through. Your openness and honesty are going to be vital in your recovery. I can't wait to move through this journey of recovery with you. You're the fucking man for being here. You have my love and my support.

TTGB
 
TTGB - thanks for the support dude! It's nice knowing that there are members here that can understand how complex this addiction is... I remember when I first starting getting high in the very beginning one night I was with my friend who is the heavy IV addict, we were not on opiates, just drinking some beers, it was friday, i hadnt done any H since wednesday and he asked me, "are you hurting?" I was like "what do u mean I feel fine, why, u don't feel good?!" Now I know the pain/suffering he meant... I used to say, "if your sick, why don't u just ride it out and rest!" But I know firsthand now that this withdrawal is just hell, whenever I think of binging, I'm always going to have the memory of this pain which terrifies me to ever use multiple days in a row... Fuck that! It's never worth it lol! Right now I'm at hour 44, took a 4mg sub at exactly the 24 hour mark, going to take 2mg at the 48 hour mark when I'm on my lunch break at work, I feel really good about this third attempt to get off H, the sub is really helping me! I used to hate how if I didn't feel sick, even though I felt normal when high, I looked like a doped up junky, not a good look in public/around family/ co workers lol! Now I feel normal on the sub without looking like I'm strung out! I know I've got this this time :)
 
Quick question for u guys... If I still feel fine at the 48 hour mark, should I still dose the 2mg sub on my lunch break? Or should I wait as long as possible until I feel sick? Just wondering! Thanks guys!
 
I'm new too, trying to find my way here. Has anyone used fentlyn patch or methadone pills to assit with oxycodone short release 60 mg per day for wd? Which one, how did it help? Not sure how much or how it works, any advice is appreciated. I'm unable to start my own question so I have to bump into comments so I can get help. I am talking short term use 4-5 days max. I know the dangers of both but what helped you the most. Tried ct and not happening, please understand. The doc uses tramaodol to wean, not sure if that would help either. Any good advise. I'm trying to avoid wd for the most part.
 
Just wanted to wish you luck man. Keep grinding, I'm on my 4th serious attempt at kicking Oxy since June.

NSM is right when says we all fail until we succeed. I've used that a lot lately.

Good luck
 
Hockey, just checking in with you. Keep up the good work, you're doing great. Wise words above as well. Take them to heart and never forget you control your destiny. We all want to see you succeed.
 
Thanks guys :)! I'm at hour 49 off H, just took 2mg of sub, I'm going to try and go cold turkey now and stop the subs, I'm hoping since this 2mg of sub will take me to hour 73, that the detox will be more bare able and I can just ride it out till its over! Will keep updating till I'm in the clear and withdrawal free :)! Everyone that's stuck in this cycle, I wish u all the best, lets do this together!
 
Thanks guys :)! I'm setting short term goals now of every 24 hours! I really feel that by Monday morning this will be over after this approximately 90 hour cold turkey stretch from now till Monday morning! It's game time guys/girls the puck has just dropped ;)
 
no matter how hard you try to escape the physical symptoms you are eventually going to feel like shit lol. i went 14 days clean and on day 10 i stopped my loperamide and was still feeling withdrawals and they came back pretty good after i stopped the loperamide(really bad leg pain, restlessness,weakness) its always the fuckin legs everytime that gets me, i dont get any back pain or nausea/puke symptoms but the constant pain and restlessness is fucked. so i caved earlier after much fighting and made some pod tea, mostly because i was sick of still feeling like shit after 14 days.

going 3 days clean then using for 2 days then 14 days clean and then using for 2 days. have i fucked myself? im gonna stop again and this time no more loperamide/kratom or anything except weed, natural stuff and hot baths and im not sure where i will be at after those 21 days. will i go back to like day 7-8 or something like that? How much have i rewinded my detox?

and hockey just keep at it. you always regret it after you dose again, so much hard work for nothing and you know you are just gonna end up detoxing again.
 
Yo hazard, I feel you dude on the leg pain, it's like an intense pain NON-STOP lol I never get a break from it either! I had that on day 2 on Monday! Thats one of the many reasons i caved that night!It would be on thing if it came in intervals and we got even a 10-15 minute break every hour but it's relentless haha! I'm sure the tea straightened u out real quick though! And honestly dude I'm knew to this sickness considering I felt it for the first time in my life this week, but I would think any reduction from opiates ( which u have clearly done in the last few weeks) should def not put u back at square one! I'm on day 3 today dude and I feel great today! I haven't gone this long without getting high since the end of August, which is a huge accomplishment for me... Back then, in the summer, this time interval ( 3 days, like getting high Tuesday then getting high tonight, Friday for example) would NEVER get me sick, I'm wondering how long it takes to reset the habit where I could get high and feel great the next day with no physical consequences! One thing I know is that I REFUSE to EVER get high more than one day in a row, it just isn't worth it at all, stay strong dude, I understand why u couldn't take it I felt the same way Monday! Keep up the good work brother :)
 
Oh ya on the leg pain, I forgot to add when I left work Monday at 5pm near the peak of my withdrawal I was bolting to my friends house to get a bag which is usually 30 minutes no traffic! However I was stuck in a 2 hour bumper to bumper traffic jam! My legs hurt so bad I kept throwing my car in park or neutral to take my foot off the petal and rest my leg lmao! My brake lights kept turning off so everyone behind me knew exactly what I was doing lol! It just hurt way to bad to hold down the brake petal! I was like curled up in a semi ball driving practically crying lol everyone kept giving me the funniest looks driving by me like " dude wtf is wrong with u!" It was so awkward! Fuck the leg pain lol
 
Congrats on your success so far...

But as someone who has been in this cycle for almost 5 years now. Get out of the mentality that you're going to be able to use again. Can't happen man.

Once a week will always become 2 every other week and then 2 a week and then 3 just for this week and then just this 4th day one time and then I'll be back on schedule....then you'll WD when you try. And....there'd you be.

Can't happen man. I've tried it every which way. I wish years ago I listened to all the people that laughed at me when I told them about my grand ideas on how to use opies without getting hooked.

They're all fucking consuming bro. That's just the unfortunate truth. Seems to be all or nothing. Once you escalated to where you did, you can't go back IMO.

Stay strong partner.
 
hockey4life said:
Oh ya on the leg pain, I forgot to add when I left work Monday at 5pm near the peak of my withdrawal I was bolting to my friends house to get a bag which is usually 30 minutes no traffic! However I was stuck in a 2 hour bumper to bumper traffic jam! My legs hurt so bad I kept throwing my car in park or neutral to take my foot off the petal and rest my leg lmao! My brake lights kept turning off so everyone behind me knew exactly what I was doing lol! It just hurt way to bad to hold down the brake petal! I was like curled up in a semi ball driving practically crying lol everyone kept giving me the funniest looks driving by me like " dude wtf is wrong with u!" It was so awkward! Fuck the leg pain lol
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rofl yea its crazy shit. if it wasn't for my legs and feeling like shit and giving serious thought to amputating my legs. i wouldn't have done any. precipitated withdrawals hit me by surprise and the long half life of this shit is annoying. and the guy above me is right, its much better and safer just not to do opiates again.
 
and also yea, i remember when i first started doing opiates i could use for 3 days then stop for 3 days and be fine, or even use for like almost a week straight and then stop and be fine. a lot of on and off but i never felt withdrawal. but now its much easier to get withdrawals. and yea 14 days is my best in 3 years. starting again after this fuck up with 0 helping opiates. and i dont think you need as much sub as you are doing. do the least amount as possible.
 
<marijuana can help>, lay in bed and try not to think about the pain. honestly theres nothing to truely help..it sucks but its something people must go through when using
 
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Ya hazard, I can totally relate to u! In the beginning i used to be so cautious... then i started using randomly all summer, like no pattern but mostly 2-3 times a week.... Never once did I get sick... But that's what did it! I used to think, "I'm never going to get hooked on this drug, I've used for 5 days straight and woke up today on day 6 feeling great!" Basically the more I started using, the more I got more comfortable doing it often since I was never getting sick. I started letting my guard down. That's how the hook got in me... I thought I was immune to withdrawals along with the " it's not going to happen to me." Those two mindsets turned into a deadly combo that got me in deep before I even realized it! I think that's how a lot of use got hooked on opiates... We all were cautious in the beginning, then we began using a little more often, and in the beginning we were able to get away with it physically...Then when we thought we still had control and were fine, and THAT'S when the hook gets u! Then u realize, "omg I've been doing this everyday for a few months now I better take a break!" Then it's game over the rest is history lol! Right now I'm at hour 74 off H, and 26 hours off sub! I'm done with the subs! I'm feeling great!!! I wonder if I'm in the clear even now with such a small habit and since H is a fast metabolized opiate :) maybe I'm already free of dependence :)?!?!
 
Feeling great guys! 96 hours off H, almost at the 100 hour mark :) the subs really helped it seems!!!
 
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