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Bupe Going from perc 30s to suboxone...p/w

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dannyboy88

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Here is my situation:

From ~June '11 to May '12 I was on 4-8 mg suboxone once a day and would do 120-210mganything of oxycodone 2-3 times a month or shoot. 5-.75 gram H the same amount. I was mostly on suboxone with the exception of a few treats per month.

last month I said fuck it and wenton a month long bender. I was shooting. 5 -1 gram a day and by the end of the month I was shooting up to 2u grams a day.

I needed to stop so I decided to go back on subs. I waited. 15 hours since my last dose to take 8mgto sub and brother believe you me I went into precipitated withdrawals like a MOTHERFUCKER. that's never happened so I just started taking2-4mg sub every hour fir another 4-6 hours. it didn't do much so the following day I bought more then switched to oxycodone the next day. So for the next week I was doing between 150-300mg (30 mg a/215) oxygen per day. I usually feel wd after 20 hours.

So two days ago I tried switching back to subs after 23 hours and I was feeling wd at that point. I took 4mga sub and after 10-15 min I started feeling the precipitated withdrawal ...my head got sweaty and I felt very cold. I called my oxy guy and about an hour after I took the sub I think I started to feel OK but then about 1.5-2 hours after my sub dose I did 300mg oxy so I'm not sure if it was just a quick precipitated withdrawal before feeling 100% OK or what.


so I'm wondering if my month long shooting dope binge threw my brain off to where I can't do subs so soon after dosing (I used to be fine at the 16-18 hour mark). Should I taper down my current oxy use to something reasonable like 120mg? Is it normal to feel 20-45 min precipitated withdrawal before feeling 100%?

I want to get back on subs but I know it won't happen if I go into precipitated withdrawals and I know I need to wait until I'm in moderate to severe withdrawal but I did when I got the mini precipitated withdrawal a few days ago. is 24 hours a good marker for a 240-300mg once a day oxy user?


thanks yall
 
If I'm thinking correctly and I did some math correct 21 hours should be good for 300mg of Oxy, However I would do the full 24hours. I would wait until someone more experienced with bupe chimes in, as I never used bupe or MMT.
 
dannyboy88 said:
Here is my situation:

From ~June '11 to May '12 I was on 4-8 mg suboxone once a day and would do 120-210mganything of oxycodone 2-3 times a month or shoot. 5-.75 gram H the same amount. I was mostly on suboxone with the exception of a few treats per month.

last month I said fuck it and wenton a month long bender. I was shooting. 5 -1 gram a day and by the end of the month I was shooting up to 2u grams a day.

I needed to stop so I decided to go back on subs. I waited. 15 hours since my last dose to take 8mgto sub and brother believe you me I went into precipitated withdrawals like a MOTHERFUCKER. that's never happened so I just started taking2-4mg sub every hour fir another 4-6 hours. it didn't do much so the following day I bought more then switched to oxycodone the next day. So for the next week I was doing between 150-300mg (30 mg a/215) oxygen per day. I usually feel wd after 20 hours.

So two days ago I tried switching back to subs after 23 hours and I was feeling wd at that point. I took 4mga sub and after 10-15 min I started feeling the precipitated withdrawal ...my head got sweaty and I felt very cold. I called my oxy guy and about an hour after I took the sub I think I started to feel OK but then about 1.5-2 hours after my sub dose I did 300mg oxy so I'm not sure if it was just a quick precipitated withdrawal before feeling 100% OK or what.


so I'm wondering if my month long shooting dope binge threw my brain off to where I can't do subs so soon after dosing (I used to be fine at the 16-18 hour mark). Should I taper down my current oxy use to something reasonable like 120mg? Is it normal to feel 20-45 min precipitated withdrawal before feeling 100%?

I want to get back on subs but I know it won't happen if I go into precipitated withdrawals and I know I need to wait until I'm in moderate to severe withdrawal but I did when I got the mini precipitated withdrawal a few days ago. is 24 hours a good marker for a 240-300mg once a day oxy user?


thanks yall
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Yer' good to go w/ the bupe', as oxycodone is one of the easiest full agonists to transition from, It's the dope thats fuckin it up.
 
Fire&Water said:
Yer' good to go w/ the bupe', as oxycodone is one of the easiest full agonists to transition from, It's the dope thats fuckin it up.
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I thought you would have to account for Oxycodone half lives? 300mg has to split ~6 times to be almost out of his system?
 
HaZeX said:
I thought you would have to account for Oxycodone half lives? 300mg has to split ~6 times to be almost out of his system?
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how long does that mean? how many hours is one of the 6 times it splits? today right now is 1 pm and that's the 22.5 hour mark. I don't feel wd too bad so that makes me nervos to take my sub at the 24 hr mark unless I'm crawling up the walls.
 
dannyboy88 said:
how long does that mean? how many hours is one of the 6 times it splits? today right now is 1 pm and that's the 22.5 hour mark. I don't feel wd too bad so that makes me nervos to take my sub at the 24 hr mark unless I'm crawling up the walls.
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Do not use the bupe' then...wait until you feel the beginning of w/d's. Why take the chance ?
 
I used to wait until I was getting the twitches (usually the last part of WD that sets in for me) and then take my subs, but as of late I can mix and match at the 8 hour mark. I think it depends a lot on the amount you are doing. When I was using 180-240 mg of oxy a day I had to give a good amount of time in between, but now that I have switched to much lower doses (45-90) I have been able to switch much sooner. Rule of thumb for me if I am concerned is just that if I am twitching then I can use.

-Sunshine.
 
Currently at 24I hour mark....I am hung over from drinking last night so my mind is foggy and I'm really tired so it's hard to feel if I'm in full wd....I'm not convulsing like I usually do. I guess I will just wait until I have to see my gf later to try and take my sub.
 
Please dont post duplicate threads.

You already have one about this which has more replies. I dont see a necessity to merge them - the timeline would just get all jumbled.

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