God is the universe

[What 23]

I've wondered if it's not something along these lines. I don't know specifics but I have felt like I remembered a childhood, and a school where I learned something, but I can't remember it here. But it was so distinct. That's not the only thing that makes me gravitate to the idea of this not being "real".

Might suicide also keep us in this world, though (along with leading dark lives, or lives that just don't get us out of it)? I've wondered that. Conversely, sometimes I've wondered if suicide is actually the way out... But it would be tragic if everyone thought that, and we just annihilated ourselves instead.

 

[Ninae]

I think this is something that varies from case to case. Or what someone's motivation is. If it's to escape a hard life, re-unity with the great ocean of spirit, or as a sacrifice to relieve the burden on others.

All I know is after my mother committed suicide she was kept in a state of unhappiness and darkness for 5 years until I helped release her so she could return to the light and was re-united with her family. But I got the impression she was staying behind and refusing to move on more by her own will, as she didn't want to leave behind her family and children, and felt too guilty about what she had done. I think attachments to Earth can keep people back as well.

And Elvis apparantly took 20 years before he got to enter Heaven (left behind a kid and had a lot of unfinished business in this world).

 

[-=SS=-]

I don't believe the Universe is God (I prefer the term 'Absolute' to God). I think the Universe is just one particular room in a house full of rooms, and the Absolute exists beyond all of that.

 

[What 23]

I see what you mean.

 

[Ninae]

I don't believe the Universe is God (I prefer the term 'Absolute' to God). I think the Universe is just one particular room in a house full of rooms, and the Absolute exists beyond all of that.

I think I said as much. Only I believe the divine consciousness reside as a spark within all of us, even rocks, plants, and animals, as it's the only way for it to experience our world directly like we do, and a way for it to learn from it. I do believe the main reason for our presence in this world is to help expand God and that on some level we're all aware of this and happy to be of service this way. What we can achieve individually by it is also something, but quite insignificant in comparison, in the large scheme of things.

 

[motiv311]

yeah me too, But all those multi-versus which are taking place concurrently are all , more or less, in the "mind" of some supremely powerful being (lucifer/god/him/her/it) maybe its not even actually self aware, but manifests these faux realities as an attempt to escape its inability to love because there is only it. and it is self aware, so it basicallyy plays a SIMS game in its own mind and we are the little SIMS avatars this being manifests.

 

[rickolasnice]

Just thought of a paradox.. (Although I'd be the first to admit I'm probably not the first (cba to google right now))

Not sure if this fits in with the multiverse theory, the many worlds theory, etc but..

If every possible reality is actually a reality, somewhere.. there will exist a reality where the multiverse, many worlds, etc doesn't exist.

How?

I'm probably just drunk and stupid but..

 

[Vurtual]

If it's a multiverse or omniverse, by definition the individual universes of our level would be sub-sets of it or something?

Multiverse and many worlds are different theories (not patronising, i'm sure you know this) which don't necessarily coincide. Multiverse, just lots of universes with slightly different starting conditions, would still have to 'start' in a common 'environment' (the membrane holder?). Many worlds, overlapping identical universes budding off whenever a particle interacts, implies a common causal link between the many sheaves of universes, and so a common starting environment.

Though i get the feeling that any accurate explanation of such meta-verses would at our scale automatically be a paradox (which is maybe why physics starts to sound like zen sometimes (though that's probably just my confusion rather than satori).