Give free alcohol to homeless alcoholics- Study says

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B.C. liquor prices should be increased to reduce illness and injuries, and alcoholic beverages should be given free to homeless alcoholics, addiction researchers at the University of Victoria say in a wide-ranging report.

It can cost as little as 58 cents for a standard drink bought through government-run BC Liquor Stores, meaning it costs as little as $2.32 for an average woman to exceed national guidelines for daily consumption and as little as $2.80 for an average man, the Centre for Addictions Research said in a report Thursday.

That cost is much lower than in Saskatchewan and Ontario, and the study recommends the B.C. government raise prices on the cheapest wines, ciders and beers.

'There's quite a lot of very cheap drinks out there.'—Addiction researcher Tim Stockwell
The price increase would have to go hand in hand with introducing alcohol harm-reduction programs for homeless problem drinkers, who could otherwise resort to hazardous sources such as rubbing alcohol or mouthwash, said the centre's lead researcher, Tim Stockwell.

Stockwell said similar programs in other jurisdictions, including Ontario, are proving worthwhile.

"The results are spectacular," he told CBC News. "There's reduced alcohol consumption. There's fewer admissions to hospital, to prison. So this is a group that needs stabilizing for accommodation, health and criminal behaviour as well."

The report authors looked at the price of every one of the 5,506 products on BC Liquor Store shelves and found the price of a standard drink ranged from 58 cents to $994.

"There's quite a lot of very cheap drinks out there," said Tim Stockwell.

Positive potential impact
He said raising the price to a $1.50 minimum could have a major impact on everything from hospital visits and traffic accidents, to venereal disease.

"I know it's not a very popular thing to say, but it's said in the interests of public health and safety," he added.

Researchers compared the price of alcohol in the province with six widely used illegal drugs including marijuana, cocaine and heroin.

While the median price for a single dose of marijuana was lower at $1.87, the cheapest high could still be found at the liquor store.

Stockwell said there is plenty of evidence around the world to show that when the price of alcohol goes up, the negative consequences go down.

While the lead research in the study was done at the centre, it also had contributions from experts across Canada, the United States and Australia.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2010/12/16/bc-alcohol-study-free-liquor.html#ixzz18PNst1K5


Everyone should go to the site and read all the comments, its crazy how many people in our modern socieity still have there heads up there ass's about addiction.
Heres on example from some jackass:

" US-Canadian wrote:Posted 2010/12/17
at 4:01 PM ET"....
but the theory is that giving them free alcohol actually costs the rest of us a lot LESS than letting them drink mouthwash or other types of alcohol.....
Do you REALLY believe this????? I mean really, no one can be THAT naive.......
You may as well supply guns to thieves instead of incurring the increased insurance cost we all pay in premiums when the thief has to break-in somewhere and steal the gun.
Really, how stupid can we be.
It is time we stopped trying to save the ROT of society and simply cut if off and disposed of it. It isn’t that hard to grasp. You don’t keep a rotten apple in a bushel of good apples do you? Why not? Answer: Because eventually you will be left with nothing but rotten apples"
 
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*arches fingers* *furrows brow*

it is time we stopped trying to save the rot of society and simply cut if off and disposed of it. It isn’t that hard to grasp. You don’t keep a rotten apple in a bushel of good apples do you? Why not? Answer: Because eventually you will be left with nothing but rotten apples

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Do you REALLY believe this????? I mean really, no one can be THAT naive.......
it's what the evidence shows. harm reduction is often more cost effective, financially for having a neutral budget, in the long term. it also *significantly* increases the quality of life of people, without lowering their chances of getting help for their problems--quite the opposite, actually.

one can live a stable life given a stable dose of a medication/drug each day. one can't live a stable life with an unstable/intermittent access to a drug they're dependent on. they can't develop an equilibrium in their lifestyle.

aka, where a ton of the problems of prohibition come from. the same set of thoughts calling for legalization of drugs also calls for at least harm reduction with whatever harms are associated with the drugs.

which points to another area of problems of prohibition ;) harm reduction programs aren't doing all they can do because stigma and traditional-authority are holding them back.
 
Heres on example from some jackass:

US-Canadian wrote:Posted 2010/12/17
at 4:01 PM ET
"but the theory is that giving them free alcohol actually costs the rest of us a lot LESS than letting them drink mouthwash or other types of alcohol.....
Do you REALLY believe this????? I mean really, no one can be THAT naive.......
You may as well supply guns to thieves instead of incurring the increased insurance cost we all pay in premiums when the thief has to break-in somewhere and steal the gun.
Really, how stupid can we be.
It is time we stopped trying to save the ROT of society and simply cut if off and disposed of it. It isn’t that hard to grasp. You don’t keep a rotten apple in a bushel of good apples do you? Why not? Answer: Because eventually you will be left with nothing but rotten apples

lol i think people are misreading this part as my opinion, its not, far from it actually, I said this is an example of one of the comments, among many others exactly like it. Im not questioning the study,its common sense to me that it will do lot of good,its no different then methadone for opiate addicts, its actually pretty sad its taken so long for science to figure it out, and that so many brainwashed idiots still think addicts are just some waste of space that contribute nothing to the world, when thats far from the case
 
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This is a horrible idea.
Unlike some addictive drugs, where an addict can be functional while high (and is only hurt by the absence of the drug), alcohol does nothing but destroy the body and mind, no matter the dose. Even if an alcoholic appears normal when inebriated, they are in fact still a danger to themselves and others (i.e. were they to drive, etc.)

Do you want your bus driver or food handler heading to their Malt Liquor clinic before their shift? 8)

I do not understand why alcohol is legal. Along with tobacco, it should be Schedule I (so long as Government is going to regulate any other recreational substances)

*sips a beer* (yes, i drink, involuntarily, due to the prohibition on cannabis and my lack of health insurance for needed mental-health Tx)

Its current affordability / availability is half the problem. Bums can always come up with enough change for a can of malt liquor.
What, is that $2 a day they scrounge up really going to turn their life around when they're able to save it? 8)

Raise the price on the legal product, and crime (theft, robbery) will just increase as addicts need their physically-addictive fix. Then you have further incarceration costs, and increased violent crime. Brilliant.
 
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alcohol does nothing but destroy the body and mind, no matter the dose
i'm gonna do a little flipflop of the famous bill hicks quote... go burn half your music CDs.
*sips a beer* (yes, i drink, involuntarily, due to the prohibition on cannabis and my lack of health insurance for needed mental-health Tx)
you just said that, at any dose, it does nothing but destroy.
Unlike some addictive drugs, where an addict can be functional while high
gonna stop you right there... the dysfunction comes when the supply is intermittent. this is why many can't maintain a stable equilibrium with illicit drugs: their prices are inflated and fluctuating, their scarcity is fluctuating, there's a lot of hoops to simply get them. it is tough to be a functional addict with all of that. but a huge percentage of people drink every day and do just fine with jobs etc

if drugs were legal, people could likewise form an equilibrium with their drug of choice and hold a job etc etc. and the reason the homeless need the free alcohol is because they are having the same problem illegal drug users have: access is intermittent, everything about the drug that keeps their body functioning somewhat normally is fluctuating, so you can't expect them to regain their balance without first having balance in their GABA neurotransmitter systems...

thus this is overall cost effective and of great benefit to people in these tough situations.

i assume they want increased alcohol prices because a correlation between the number of young people buying alcohol and how much alcohol costs has been established.

p.s. forgot (my memory sucks). they want increased alcohol prices because of the correlation between illness and injury and alcohol prices. increasing alcohol's cost decreases overall illness and injury, saving money...
Raise the price on the legal product, and crime (theft, robbery) will just increase as addicts need their physically-addictive fix
not when it's free for those who have the most problems with the drug.
 
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^^ exactly what he said

Do you want your bus driver or food handler heading to their Malt Liquor clinic before their shift?
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How does this statment have anythign to do with this study? This is for HOMELESS poeple, street junkies, not functioning alcoholics that have jobs and a roof over there heads. Its the peoples who dont have fuck all, that most days dont eat, or have to resort to stealing to eat, because the measily 2 dollars a day they might get is just enough alcohol to keep there bodys and minds from shutting down, were not talking about your average joe alcoholic like in a methadone clinic where any addict can get in, it would be the most hardcore alcoholics you can even imagine who have lost everything to alcohol and are now homeless.
 
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^ plus, even if they do happen to be working... if someone is dependent on a sedative, they'll drive *worse* if they're in withdrawal. a "maintenance" dose will "maintain" the person, whether we're talking alcohol or benzodiazepines or opioids.
 
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