Girls Love Me On Heroin

[PunchThomas]

This is a story a friend told me (in his words):

I'm 30 years old and I've never had much "game." I've had my share of awesome girlfriends throughout my life, but I have never had the ability to go out to a bar and pick up a stranger on a consistent basis. Until I started doing heroin.

I don't understand it, but it is a fact: girls love me on heroin! Has anybody else experienced this? I feel like it enhances everything that makes me charismatic. Girls can see that I'm happy and non-judgmental, and the good time I'm having rubs off on everyone I meet. I feel comfortable to crack jokes, and when one doesn't go over well, I easily just move on to the next one. But the thing is, I am always like that. For reasons that are not clear to me, when I'm not on H, my good vibe doesn't rub off on anyone, and for the life of me I can't figure out what's so different about me when I'm opiated.

Does anyone have any thoughts here? He would love to be able to be the person he is on heroin, without the heroin, and he would appreciate any understanding or advice you have!

PT

 

[DroneLore]

I think I was scoring points with a certain type of girl when I used. There is something to the idea of 'heroin chic.'

I don't think your vibes are actually changing, but the dope makes you feel comfortable with who you are so you don't get so anxious over how others can react. I would take steps to try to feel this way without drugs. It's hard; I'm trying to do the same thing.

 

[LOGan1314]

Yeah i remember when i first snorted oxy (the original formula of course) i walked up to the first girl i saw and ended up having a date with her later that night...didn't know her at all before that.....If I tried that sober i don't think it would have ended up too well.

 

[shady4091]

It's just the lower inhibitions and higher sense of self esteem that opiates give that make you able to handle social situations incredibly well. I'm normally kind of a socially anxious person but when I'm on opiates I feel like the "cool" guys, totally able to hold an interesting conversation, a lot funnier and just generally a better person to be around. I love the person I am when I'm on opiates, which kind of sucks. A lot.

Not to mention the ability to last for eons during sex. Sure, it doesn't feel as good for me but it's fucking awesome for the girl and that's what I care most about anyway. There have actually been quite a few times that I've had to "fake it" because I knew it wasn't going to happen and I didn't want my girl to think I was some kind of sexual dynamo that could last forever all the time haha. And now that I'm off them I'm more sensitive than ever. Sucks...

 

[rakketakke]

The past year the only time people genuinely out of themselves compliment me or have a good time with me is when I take amphetamines.


It's a stupid pointless struggle

Girls want my dick when i'm rolling

 

[verso]

I can kind of understand what you're saying because when I'm all high out of my mind on opiates, I have this laid-back, everything's-cool attitude whereas when I'm sober, I'm all anxious and uptight all of the time, and that's no fun. But it's kind of funny because when I'm doing dope, the last thing I care about is women. All I want to do is sit up in bed and nod out to some movie I'm only half-watching while checking my phone and trying to bang out a couple of text messages, albeit unsuccessfully.

 

[axl blaze]

yeah, this is common man. think about it, if you are in w/ds or just sober most are just anxious/at least not in a good mood. but when one is using - BAM! instant confidence because everything is all right within your little world, and your confident. people are attracted to these kind of traits in a person

let me just bring up another point and say to watch it. specifically if you get too high, a person usually thinks they are on-fire, hitting all the points, smooth, etc. when they are really only fooling themselves most of the time. usually when I'm high I think that I'm far more slick than I actually am

but yeah - I think people that do opiates are far more enjoyable/talkative when they are on them opposed to when they are not

 

[Tommyboy]

It's very common, but it doesn't last if you become dependent on opiates. Then the opiates don't work as much, and it may become a roller-coaster ride when you are feeling good and talking to girls, and then coming down and getting irritated and anxious. It's a good short term strategy, but once the drugs take a hold of you, good luck being Mr. Smooth.

 

[shady4091]

It's very common, but it doesn't last if you become dependent on opiates. Then the opiates don't work as much, and it may become a roller-coaster ride when you are feeling good and talking to girls, and then coming down and getting irritated and anxious. It's a good short term strategy, but once the drugs take a hold of you, good luck being Mr. Smooth.

Too true. Then you're left completely devoid of any confidence you may have once had prior to your abuse. Not a good thing at all.

 

[svacheme3]

The whole reason I became addicted is because of similar effects. While on opiates, I'm sociable, normal, and able to hold a conversation with girls. Sober, I'm too nervous to even talk unless responding to an objective question, and my anxiety and lack of confidence are written all over me. Traditional anxiolytics (alcohol, benzos) do not help. Stimulants help up until the strung out point. Drugs have cost me a lot... recently a year of my life and a fiancee I loved.. but I hated the anxiety-crippled person I was before I ever started using, a person that returned after getting out a year clean. Making the choice to go back down that road wasn't easy, but I just can't live with my non-opiated/stimulated self. I chose the rollercoaster of ups and downs instead of a life of loneliness.

 

[Sepher]

^ Exactly this in my case too svaheme3. It was the power opiates had to remove self-doubt, self-loathing, social anxiety etc that made them so attractive for me too. I felt like I was the me I wanted to be on opiates, the me I'd have been had it not been for all the experiences I'd had in my past that had led to my negative self-image, and because I liked myself better on them, I became much more likeable for others I think. Certainly worked out that I had a lot more success with women on opiates than I'd ever had before without them, or since to some extent. Makes it very hard when you come off, having to get to grips with yourself as you actually are and try and get past the negative stuff now the opiate crutch is no longer available to you. It's something ongoing I'm still getting to grips with.