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[Eveleivibe]

Evey -- opioids and benzodiazepines are both CNS depressants. (And in combination, they can be respiratory depressants. Take a pre-emptive shot of Ventolin.) They are always going to mask one another's effects. And, since they all act on the same receptors, a long half-life opioid such as buprenorphine is going to mask a short half-life opioid such as codeine.

What you should have done was, stay off the subs for four days before you took the codeine; then waited until the codeine wore off, and taken some diclazepam to get to sleep when you started to go into withdrawal. Then gone back onto the subs and taken them absolutely regularly as clockwork, at the same time every day, for 14 days on the bounce.

Thank you, Julie I'll do that i don't know what's wrong with me but i find things like that difgicult. I have to have everything now...., it's hard to explain n prob sounds greedy but can't really have codeine here without having it.

I never knew that benzos n opies mask the effects. I've not had dubs since Sunday

Thank you honey, you're a real gem .
I love you
Abd Bluelight

fucks sake.

Just get some weed.

hahahahaha this tickled . how you doing, Bumz?

Evey

 

[Raasyvibe]

Thank you honey, you're a real gem .
I love you
Abd Bluelight

Evey

Whatever drugs + sources someone has been PM'ing you, appear to be working

 

[Chatative]

I cant have codeine in the house n not drink it!!!!!!! Its codeine.....

Sorry, but why on earth are you using codeine when you've been addicted to it in the past. That seems incredibly reckless of you... as you say in that quote, you can't control your use of it when you have it. It's a slippery path.

Please for your own sake, get rid of your codeine & don't buy anymore.

 

[BecomingJulie]

Thank you, Julie I'll do that i don't know what's wrong with me but i find things like that difgicult. I have to have everything now...., it's hard to explain n prob sounds greedy but can't really have codeine here without having it.

Seeking instant gratification? I know the feeling and it is hard to fight it. But you just have to have self-discipline and patience.

I never knew that benzos n opies mask the effects. I've not had dubs since Sunday

After 3 days, you'd still have about 35% of the original amount of buprenorphine in your system. That's probably still a fair amount, ideally you want less.

Thank you honey, you're a real gem .
I love you
Abd Bluelight

Evey

You are peaking .....

 

[Eveleivibe]

Peaking?

Evey

 

[BecomingJulie]

I mean, the effects are coming to a peak. Which means, the drugs are working .....

 

[Eveleivibe]

U

Sorry, but why on earth are you using codeine when you've been addicted to it in the past. That seems incredibly reckless of you... as you say in that quote, you can't control your use of it when you have it. It's a slippery path.

Please for your own sake, get rid of your codeine & don't buy anymore.

I've ordered two more bottle n keep looking at pharmacies. It's ok. I'm stopping Saturday. I've missed codeine n having fun. I've missed having a loada pills around me, the thrill of buying / going to pharmacies, the lovely N+ packets. The desire to have as much as possible n thrill of doing cwt. May sound strange but I've missed all this......... I was distraught when codeine was taken away i felt the end of the world had come.

Evey

 

[SmokingAces]

Is codeine that addictive? Even when I tried H it never seemed that severe, not compared to Meth, I could easily do that shit everyday (and have done) if I have it. Not to be a party pooper Evey, but in my humble opinion you would be better just doing the codeine and sacking off those nasty benzo's, whether of the legal or illegal kind, they only bring trouble when used recreationally IME. Opiates > Benzo's in terms of Euphoria.

 

[Eveleivibe]

Sid you're not a party pooper. I've a lot of respect for you. Yea I'm just doing the codeine tonight n not having anymore benzos today.

I'm having some more of my tattoo tomorrow done 2moro so i gotta work out what's best to take seems as ive not had any subs since Sunday.

Anyway between subs n codeine as not gone a day with some form of opiate since Jume 2012

Evey

 

[Chatative]

U

I've ordered two more bottle n keep looking at pharmacies. It's ok. I'm stopping Saturday. I've missed codeine n having fun. I've missed having a loada pills around me, the thrill of buying / going to pharmacies, the lovely N+ packets. The desire to have as much as possible n thrill of doing cwt. May sound strange but I've missed all this......... I was distraught when codeine was taken away i felt the end of the world had come.

Evey

That attitude is exactly why you should stay clear of codeine. It doesn't smack of someone who has a lot of self control. The fact you've ordered more & keep looking up pharmacies, the fact you miss the thrill of it & having fun, the fact you've felt distraught at not being able to use codeine anymore...

Seriously, think long and hard about what you are saying here. You are clearly too attached to codeine.

 

[BecomingJulie]

Opiates > Benzo's in terms of Euphoria.

True. But benzos can be handy for sleeping through the worst of the opiate withdrawal, if you keep them in moderation and avoid getting on a habit merry-go-round.

 

[Eveleivibe]

I've decided I'm going to sack my DSP off n come off subs completely. It's done me no favours n my key worker is too controlling; wanting to come n cjeck my box to see it has my meds in it. I told her I am honest you don't need to come to my home. Ugh.

Just realised this is the first time I've "relapsed" since Instarted subs two n half years ago (excluding the time i ODd in Zjuly but that don't count).

Evey

 

[Sprout]

So you're consciously avoiding maintenance in order to neck a bit of Codeine linctus?

Seriously; irresponsible doesn't come close.

 

[Eveleivibe]

You dont go lecturing scotchy or anyone else for going back to their addictions - and yourself for that matter. It's MY choice whether i wish to stay on maintenance or not. Maybe some people should sort their own addictions out before telling me off?

Evey

 

[Sprout]

You dont go lecturing scotchy or anyone else for going back to their addictions - and yourself for that matter. It's MY choice whether i wish to stay on maintenance or not. Maybe some people should sort their own addictions out before telling me off?

Evey

Right, Evey, I have done everything I can.
If you're response to genuine compassion is to take a dig at my dependency then you're on your own.
Good luck.

 

[SmokingAces]

I think Sprouty is just concerned Evey. I mean seriously not to be a twat saying this, but it baffles me why you chose Diclazepam of all things for recreational use. I could understand if you were using it to medicate anxiety or come down from stims. Even I feel a level of concern that you are choosing to mix Diclaz and Codeine, despite never having taken either. Although one thing I will say unlike Sprout I don't blame you for having a binge, I that happens, to all of us.

 

[Eveleivibe]

Probably a good idea. It doesn't come across as compassion it comes across as mocking me n with all due respect im twice your age so it's kind of insulting. Half the people on Bluelight are doing similar to me. When people make the effect to sort their own addictions I may listem x

Evey

 

[Chatative]

So you're consciously avoiding maintenance in order to neck a bit of Codeine linctus?

Seriously; irresponsible doesn't come close.

This.

I just give up... you've got to accept you have a problem before you can get past it Evey. Yes you have a choice in the matter but can't you see you are making the WRONG choice.

And before you start berating people, maybe you should remember that the spirit of BL is as a harm reduction forum.

Bear in mind, we just have your wellbeing in mind. We aren't trying to be harsh or judgemental...

 

[Eveleivibe]

I think Sprouty is just concerned Evey. I mean seriously not to be a twat saying this, but it baffles me why you chose Diclazepam of all things for recreational use. I could understand if you were using it to medicate anxiety or come down from stims. Even I feel a level of concern that you are choosing to mix Diclaz and Codeine, despite never having taken either. Although one thing I will say unlike Sprout I don't blame you for having a binge, I that happens, to all of us.

Someone advised me to start with diclaz

This.

I just give up... you've got to accept you have a problem before you can get past it Evey. Yes you have a choice in the matter but can't you see you are making the WRONG choice.

And before you start berating people, maybe you should remember that the spirit of BL is as a harm reduction forum.

I'm not berating people, well not intentionally anyway. I do appreciate your advice, Chatty

Evey

 

[Eveleivibe]

Anyway lets move on or OTW Will be here to kick ass :D

So what's everyone up to?


Evey