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Madness!

They're lollipops and they're excellent. Looks like it's gonna be a bag of 20 off Amazon job
 
good evening people
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Shambles said:
Moreover, the naloxone in Suboxone has no effect even when injected cos bupe itself has a higher receptor affinity so the naloxone never actually touches your receptors. It was only added as a token gesture to please ignorant Drugs is BAD, m'kay folk who can't comprehend the idea of opioid replacement therapy with no inherent punishment aspect to make it "unabusable". Suboxone and Subutex are, to all intents and purposes, identical in every way.
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Wow. I didn't know that. Makes sense, though .....
 
Aye, aggro is efffffort

Just went foraging in the snack box in the kitchen for something to eat, inexplicably found sex toys. Swings and roundabouts...
 
Eveleivibe said:
What are chupa chups? Never heard of them

Evey
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But how..?


Today marks the end of a very fun but not very healthy week of booze sunshine and dancing. Even though I skipped a night and a half on 4-FA I feel remarkably dandy today! Have a great sundaynight eadd
 
ScotchMist said:
Hate to be a disappointment - should be used to it by now - but I've used today.. :\
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Don't beat yourself up about it. You've already lasted this long. Now you've given yourself a record to break, start the clock again and try to beat it.
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Y'know what, it's made me feel fuckin awful too. Physically that is..
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I'm not surprised. You will have lost all your tolerance, and forgotten about the itchy, pukey downside. Hold onto the feeling, and try to remember ..... and I didn't even enjoy it! the next time you think you might be slipping towards the edge of the wagon.

But do not let anyone tell you you have failed. Because you haven't -- every day clean has been a success.
 
Awh Scotchy don't beat yourself up. I was going to tell you sbout the pink cloud but didn't want to rain on your perade. The fact you felt awful is good because if you felt good you'd more than likely want to use more. Do you have any contacts to talk with st times like this? It's important you have a good support network.

Chip well done on the moderator position :)

Evey
 
After a lovely snooful sat eve, I am on my way home to scoff down some homemade chilli, get a shower and get into bed because I'm up waaaay too early tomorrow.

some very exciting plans in the works at the moment too :D
 
snolly said:
Aw man, that sucks. You gonna be alright to keep on track? Hardest thing ever is not going back to drugs when stuff fucks up, don't be too harsh on yourself even tho it does feel shitty. Well DO be harsh on yourself, but don't beat yourself up, you know?

Feeling fucking shitty myself. Had a big anxiety/OCD-related freak out this morning at my girlfriend and now I'm sat doing the relationship equivalent of calling back to find out why you didn't get the job with my best friend because she's been through all this with me and now we aren't together she can tell me honestly about how I am in relationships etc without it affecting our friendship. I don't want to ruin this, I know my girlfriend loves me and it's just me being ridiculous but all the same I'm calling the self referral mental health people tomorrow because it can't happen again, need to learn how to deal with it without it hurting the people I love. Just exhausting man, I rang my Mum this morning and she was like 'I'm fifty and I'm still dealing with everything that you are'. I don't wanna be the same in twenty years.
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Awh the main thing is you're getting help n that must count for something x

Evey
 
BecomingJulie said:
Don't beat yourself up about it. You've already lasted this long. Now you've given yourself a record to break, start the clock again and try to beat it.I'm not surprised. You will have lost all your tolerance, and forgotten about the itchy, pukey downside. Hold onto the feeling, and try to remember ..... and I didn't even enjoy it! the next time you think you might be slipping towards the edge of the wagon.

But do not let anyone tell you you have failed. Because you haven't -- every day clean has been a success.
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Agree totally.

Evey
 
Thanks Snolz, Julie, Chip and Evey... I'm ok, there's been some consequences which aren't too pleasant but I'm ok. Others have seen it as a failure, as in its the end of the world.

I'd be full of shit if I said I wasnt pissed off at myself, just gotta dust myself off and start again.

<3 all
 
Eveleivibe said:
Awh the main thing is you're getting help n that must count for something x

Evey
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Yeah :) we've talked out a plan of action today, stuff will be ok. Least I can identify what's going wrong now before it becomes a huge issue. Am away to bed now, absolutely exahusted. Night night people <3
 
ScotchMist said:
I'm ok, there's been some consequences which aren't too pleasant but I'm ok. Others have seen it as a failure, as in its the end of the world.
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That latter is one of the aspects of 12 Step I have a big problem with. The last thing folk trying to deal with addiction issues need is yet more guilt, shame and remorse being piled onto them. Especially for things which are all but inevitible and in no way suggest any kind of failing so much as represent a chance to learn a valuable lesson about how easy it can be to slip back but also how eminently possible it is to stop things from going any further when caught so early.

What is needed is support - especially from those who have been through the same and understand without feeling the need to judge. And confidence-boosting to remind you that you are very far from powerless - in fact you (and only you) hold all the power to choose your own path and decide to not continue down the opioid path. Disappointment is natural but please don't let that flip over into excessive guilt or shame cos that is a near enough guaranteed route to relapse. As has been noted, take it as an opportunity and as just another lesson learnt along the way.

You've done great - you still are as long as you stick with it <3
 
Shambles said:
That latter is one of the aspects of 12 Step I have a big problem with. The last thing folk trying to deal with addiction issues need is yet more guilt, shame and remorse being piled onto them. Especially for things which are all but inevitible and in no way suggest any kind of failing so much as represent a chance to learn a valuable lesson about how easy it can be to slip back but also how eminently possible it is to stop things from going any further when caught so early.

What is needed is support - especially from those who have been through the same and understand without feeling the need to judge. And confidence-boosting to remind you that you are very far from powerless - in fact you (and only you) hold all the power to choose your own path and decide to not continue down the opioid path. Disappointment is natural but please don't let that flip over into excessive guilt or shame cos that is a near enough guaranteed route to relapse. As has been noted, take it as an opportunity and as just another lesson learnt along the way.

You've done great - you still are as long as you stick with it <3
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My exact same issues - amongst many others - with the 12 step approach. It's a dangerous place to be when you're so vulnerable, excessive shame and guilt is what feeds an addict. They'd have you believe that you're about to lose another 10 years to active addiction from stumbling once. I don't buy that.

Powerlessness, no self will. Bollocks...It's self will that has kept me away from the stuff, it will continue too aswell because basically, that's all we have.

Thanks man <3
 
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