Gibberings : CXXXIV , Secrets of the Bouffant, with Brian Cox.

[Mailmonkey]

continued from here

 

[Ceres]

Only someone with an extraordinary understanding of physics could produce a hairstyle like that. (or a girl)

 

[ColtDan]

Cant decide if i like the vallie and booze combo more than the oxy and booze combo. or minus the booze. had some mild brain zaps for a bit off a vallie earlier, whats that about. i dont abuse em so seems a bit odd. vallies effect gaba dont they, i thought serotonin causes zaps. anyway am feeling quite nice, lovely. itching for some euphoric spangley but 2 weeks off it has been wise

 

[Pagey]

^I got brain zaps for quite a while after getting off xanax, I don't think it's particularly unusual for it to happen while you're actually on benzos either. Not pleasant though.

 

[Shambles]

Would be more inclined to think brain zaps were down to staying off the euphoric stims for a while in your case really, Dan. You were bang at 'em ferra loooooooong ol' time

 

[Uncle Robert]

Posted something similar in the speed thread (deleted that post now as I have this one) but I know this is a lot more active. What dose would you recommend for first time speed use? Insufflation over oral as I want to make the most out of what I have. Can't tell you how strong it is but at least I can describe it:

The stuff is pictured below, it's dry and doesn't clump together when pressed. When it was in the baggy I got it in, it had a paint-like smell to it. Then I transferred it to a new baggy and now there is a faint smell almost similar to a balloon/condom (dunno if the baggy had anything to do with it, but the baggies are completely odorless on their own) and the paint-like smell has gone.

Spoiler: picture

Got a gram of it*

Cheers

 

[Shambles]

Very hard to say with speed as quality is so variable. Personally I'd start with 100mg line and take it from there. On the very slim offchance you got speed wiv speed in it maybe go for 50mg instead. Redosing not only works fine but is unavoidable with speed so is easy to get to where you wanna be really.

Enjoy

 

[Uncle Robert]

Sounds like a plan, that's what I'll do thanks.

Oh and I guarantee it's strong speed as the dealer said it was!

 

[swampdragon]

A decent article from Mike Power, much less Guardian-ified than the other recent ones: http://sabotagetimes.com/life/how-i-caused-the-meow-meow-moral-manic-meltdown/

 

[ColtDan]

50mg

Yeah every weekend since mid 09.

surprised im still able to feel good on booze after hammering it every weekend since my mid teens, not good for the old CNS. and everything else. i do love the vallies, so hypnotic and nice. oxy is nice now it aint making me sick at all, nodding is utter bollocks though, trippy, low doses very good though. i see what is intriguing about it and it feels safe to abuse but its far from it. feeling empty and lethargic aint nice. surprised i cant be assed with my pre ban mxe ive got stashed away, getting wonky is amazing. tunes on at the mo, all goooood. all my dabbings in getting mashed have been kept to the weekends though, healthy through the week, messy weekends

 

[Uncle Robert]

Disclosure's new album got leaked if that interests anyone. You can find it on thesomaliharbour.ee if you want to taste if before buying it (or taste it and then keep it).

 

[gayorstraight]

I thought this was interesting

 

[Uncle Robert]

I thought this was interesting

Do you reckon the ketamine one is purely from people falling over?

 

[Ceres]

dependancy aswell no doubt, and mixing witho ther drugs etc.

 

[Dr_Robotnik]

I thought this was interesting

No offence but I can't see how it's possible to quantify subjective information on a chart like that.

swampdragon
A decent article from Mike Power, much less Guardian-ified than the other recent ones: http://sabotagetimes.com/life/how-i-...anic-meltdown/

He does seem to have a pretty good standpoint on drugs and legality at least. Seems a fairly honest portayal of the mephedrone era. I'd be interested to know how meph use compares to other drugs now it's illegal. When it was legal I'd have said it was the most popular drug bar cannabis.

 

[Ceres]

How is it subjective information? Harm done by drugs to people who take them and people around them who sometmes suffer as a consequence is absolutely a quantifiable thing. statistics!

 

[Dr_Robotnik]

Because it's down to the individual how much harm they're causing their families. For instance I know people who've put their families through hell through cocaine use. Yet they say caannabis is causing more harm to others, well yes it may cause damage to the rest of the people living in the houses lungs, but I know people with kids who've remortgaged their house through cocaine debts. It seems pretty hard to quantify the harm it causes to others, unless you're talking purely physical.

 

[Ceres]

not true, hospitals, social services, the police etc all generate statistics that inform graphs like that one above. Of course individuals differ in how they get on with drugs but the statistics speak for the general population.

Harm to other people im sure includes relatives, passive smoking, crime, violence etc, again all things which can be monitored by the above....

 

[Dr_Robotnik]

Yes but I would say for the mental anguish of having a partner/child/sibling addicted to most drugs the vast majority of people do not go to the doctor/social worker or whatever other professionals to discuss their problem. More likely to be discussed amoung the family/friends.

Information like that is a bit like information reported on how much drugs come into the country each year. You can't really put a solid figure on it.

 

[Shambles]

It's a general guide not set in stone FACT. Personally, I think it's more or less on the money. Would put cannabis a lot lower and methadone a lot higher though.