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Aye, I thought that. You're not going to buy pretend ket if you can get real ket lol. Is there anyone on here that's done both? I want to know the difference. I can get ket easily but it's not cheap - I think it was £30/g when I bought some the other week (got pills n ching as well & just paid a total price, not 100% sure how it was broken down).
 
parttime crackhead said:
It's going to be shit-ket somehow. I'm just curious to know what is shit about it.

BCF - You on the K just now, aye?
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Lol nah, on bout 100mgs of oxy and 20mgs of Diaz lol, would a beer be such a good idea? Lol am out of weed completely, need to see if I could pinch a bit off me bro but im sure he only has dregs left, even still though I'll have just under a q of cheese in the morning so I could sort him bk asap, but my lil bro is somewhat jewish in nature when it comes to these things lol
 
why does everything have to be compared to it's illegal counterpart, methylone vs mdma, mxe vs k etc, these chemicals should be enjoyed for their own individual special magical propertiesssssssssssssssssssss
 
parttime crackhead said:
Aye, I thought that. You're not going to buy pretend ket if you can get real ket lol. Is there anyone on here that's done both? I want to know the difference. I can get ket easily but it's not cheap - I think it was £30/g when I bought some the other week (got pills n ching as well & just paid a total price, not 100% sure how it was broken down).
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Having done both, mxe is just not worth it if you can get k, even at 30 a g it's better than mxe! I couldn't believe I payed €45 a g of k last week! He wanted 60 but tacked him down, weighed in at .8 too so was right bk on the phone and got another bag just slightly smaller than this so called g! Proof he was trying his luck in the hope I was clueless! Sorry matey! I ain't! he really didn't like the fact I plonked a set of 0.001 scales on his glove box door lol, but I didn't know him so it's standard tbh,

So got like 1.5 g for €45 wasn't too bad and the quality was better than the certified s iso k I get from India, small uniform crystals like mini rice grains, way smaller than the meph of the same description.

When I'm feeling more flush I may indulge in another and snap a pic... Argh fook it, tis horrible weather so I might call him up! Lol
 
The only reason it exists is because it's "legal ketamine". Almost all of these legal equivalents are essentially a shite version of the illegal one. Not always, but near enough. For example, who the fuck takes methylone if they can easily get a hold of MD?

BCF - I know that MXE is rank compared to ket. I was talking about this NEK stuff. I've still got a little bit of MXE left from 2g I bought absolutely ages ago, back when it was still totally legal. That's the sign of shit drugs, that they're still around after all that time. I've also got some ethylphenidate knocking about as well, except the bag of it is practically full & will remain that way. I'll eventually take the MXE, I'll never take the ethylphenidate though.

Edit - In fact, does anyone want it? I'm never going to take it & I wouldn't give something as shite as that to any of my mates lol.
 
Valkyrie said:
My hubby had a stroke after taking meph.
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Mailmonkey said:
Hmmmm, surely any stim could have trigered a stroke though in someone susceptible, through age, or health reasons. If your hubby was ripe for a stroke, whatever stim he'd taken could have caused it?
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Perhaps, but everything points to meph. I'll tell you what happened and you can draw your own conclusions.

He's taken a lot of stims in the past with no problems. Mainly mdma and amphetamine, and we used to cane it every weekend. In 2009 when meph came along we did it about 4 times, 3-4 weeks apart, about 3 x 150mg in a session, so not excessive.

One night, a week or so after he last took it, he was trying to get out of bed but couldn't push himself up cos the right side of his body wasn't working. His face had dropped, his eyes were glazed and he wouldn't answer me. He was conscious but he hadn't got a clue what was going on.

Cos he got to hospital in time (within 2 hours) they were able to give him a clot busting drug which brought him round a bit. If I hadn't woken up and seen him he probably would've had a permanently disability. The docs were amazed how quickly he recovered. The stroke ward is the most frightening ward I've ever seen. Although what had happened to him was very scary, we realised that he was actually quite luckly to be able to walk out of hospital 3 days later. As it is, he still has trouble getting his words out sometimes, especially when he's tired. They put him on anticoagulants and statins, and that was the end of our drug taking. Or so we thought.

Five months later we had a very apologetic phone call from the hospital saying he should've had a heart scan when he had the stroke but because he was in over the weekend it'd been overlooked. They took him in straight away and told him he had a hole in his heart. They did a minor op a couple of months later to fix it.

They explained it was an ASD and the hole has a flap of tissue over it which should seal at birth but in approximately 25% of the population it doesn't. It doesn't usually cause any problems, most people never know they have it. For some reason raised pressure in the heart had caused the flap to open resulting in the mixing of arterial and venous blood.

Continuous pulmonary hypertension lead to Eisenmenger's syndrome which caused random clots and the stroke. As much as I didn't want to blame meph, the things posted on BL by those who know (F&B = pharmacologist) leads me to this conclusion.

Now his heart is fixed it means he's ok with stims again but we don't cane it quite like we used to.
 
Ceres said:
why does everything have to be compared to it's illegal counterpart, methylone vs mdma, mxe vs k etc, these chemicals should be enjoyed for their own individual special magical propertiesssssssssssssssssssss
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It's the same as all drugs, just like people like to compare Acid and Shrooms because they are psychedelics and different/same in various ways. Don't get why people don't grasp this, when you take say MXE and get those deja vu feelings that you had on ketamine your obviously gonah compare the two. While everyone should understand that each research chemical is different, many of them out there just feel like worse (/more side effect carrying) versions of other drugs already available on the market.

I'm quite looking forward to NEK, but for the past few months all I've heard is upcoming rumours. I just stopped looking into it until it actually becomes available. I'm all for it, especially due to the massive price difference that I predict will happen (just like with MXE).
 
parttime crackhead said:
The only reason it exists is because it's "legal ketamine". Almost all of these legal equivalents are essentially a shite version of the illegal one. Not always, but near enough. For example, who the fuck takes methylone if they can easily get a hold of MD?
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I don't share your attitude, sorry. I view these things as interesting neuropsychopharmacological probes that just happen to be available for assay in humans who care to explore, not as a 'skirt round the law so we can all get wasted and line some cunts pockets' deal...
 
Ceres said:
I don't share your attitude, sorry. I view these things as interesting neuropsychopharmacological probes that just happen to be available for assay in humans who care to explore, not as a 'skirt round the law so we can all get wasted and line some cunts pockets' deal...
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Lol. You're thinking too much about this. A dunt's a dunt. It's not an experiment. Stop trying to kid yourself on that you're up to something more than just chasing a high.

Valkyrie said:
Me. MD doesn't work for me anymore, methylone does.
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Ah, fair enough. That makes sense. There is a specific reason why you do methylone over MD though. If the MD still worked I doubt you'd go near methylone. Do you actually enjoy methylone? Do you take something else with it to counteract the '10 minutes of fun, 10 hours of comedown' thing?

SpecialK_ said:
While everyone should understand that each research chemical is different, many of them out there just feel like worse (/more side effect carrying) versions of other drugs already available on the market.
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That's what I was getting at.
 
Methylone isn't a patch on how MD used to be but I ruined it by overdoing it. I would love MD to work again, it was beautiful.
 
Methylone gave my ex and I the worst 16 hours ever with 999 ready to be dialled on the phone, was fun for the first 3 hours then hell, heart racing like fuck thinking we're gunna die /( it actually has put her off any chems for good which really annoyed me /( but I'd rather her have a happy mental state rather than doing drugs she didn't want to do.
 
parttime crackhead said:
Lol. You're thinking too much about this. A dunt's a dunt. It's not an experiment. Stop trying to kid yourself on that you're up to something more than just chasing a high.
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Sorry, im actually doing a pharmacology degree with the aim of getting into a NPP research position. So having this array of candy available is genuinely useful to me. There's more to life than getting cunted mate.
 
breakcorefiend said:
Yes! That is it! Always need a piss, even a can of beer turns into litres of piss when on k, plus I hate havin to get up and go for a piss when k'ed right up!

Always knock shit over whilst wading through what feels like porridge in the typical crabwalking style lol, and talking to other people is fucking weird, my inner monologue sounds like I'm listening to a recording of myself, spins me out but when I try to explain to others im an incoherent mess! Lol
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Oh god yeah, the couple of times I've done ket, I've ended up nearly killing myself on the sink or the light cord or my own jeans whilst trying to go take a piss. Loved the stuff but seems like I should just stay put on it, being clumsy as fuck sober.
 
Valkyrie said:
Perhaps, but everything points to meph. I'll tell you what happened and you can draw your own conclusions.

He's taken a lot of stims in the past with no problems. Mainly mdma and amphetamine, and we used to cane it every weekend. In 2009 when meph came along we did it about 4 times, 3-4 weeks apart, about 3 x 150mg in a session, so not excessive.

One night, a week or so after he last took it, he was trying to get out of bed but couldn't push himself up cos the right side of his body wasn't working. His face had dropped, his eyes were glazed and he wouldn't answer me. He was conscious but he hadn't got a clue what was going on.

Cos he got to hospital in time (within 2 hours) they were able to give him a clot busting drug which brought him round a bit. If I hadn't woken up and seen him he probably would've had a permanently disability. The docs were amazed how quickly he recovered. The stroke ward is the most frightening ward I've ever seen. Although what had happened to him was very scary, we realised that he was actually quite luckly to be able to walk out of hospital 3 days later. As it is, he still has trouble getting his words out sometimes, especially when he's tired. They put him on anticoagulants and statins, and that was the end of our drug taking. Or so we thought.

Five months later we had a very apologetic phone call from the hospital saying he should've had a heart scan when he had the stroke but because he was in over the weekend it'd been overlooked. They took him in straight away and told him he had a hole in his heart. They did a minor op a couple of months later to fix it.

They explained it was an ASD and the hole has a flap of tissue over it which should seal at birth but in approximately 25% of the population it doesn't. It doesn't usually cause any problems, most people never know they have it. For some reason raised pressure in the heart had caused the flap to open resulting in the mixing of arterial and venous blood.

Continuous pulmonary hypertension lead to Eisenmenger's syndrome which caused random clots and the stroke. As much as I didn't want to blame meph, the things posted on BL by those who know (F&B = pharmacologist) leads me to this conclusion.

Now his heart is fixed it means he's ok with stims again but we don't cane it quite like we used to.
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I can't help but feel like you are looking at a coincidence and attributing it to meph. Tons of that stuff got sniffed all over the country and the rate of strokes didn't really increase across the country. I have a friend who has never touched recreational drugs apart from alcohol in her life and she had a stroke at 23. Strokes are really quite common at 40+. Any stimulant could have set off that chain of events, if indeed it was stimulant related. Chances are if my wife or I were to have a health problem it would almost certainly follow some sort of drug use we could attribute it to, because we use drugs a reasonable amount. But whose to say it's not just an underlying condition, or much much earlier drug use? I don't doubt it could have been meph, because it has similar attributes to md and phet, but I don't know if it definitely is meph in and of itself that did this.
 
Ceres said:
Sorry, im actually doing a pharmacology degree with the aim of getting into a NPP research position. So having this array of candy available is genuinely useful to me. There's more to life than getting cunted mate.
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If you are trying to claim that you're taking drugs for any reason other than to "get cunted" then you're lying to yourself & to me. Your pharmacology degree & your drug use don't really have anything to do with each other, no matter how much you pretend otherwise.
 
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