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MXE is pretty stimulating on its own and offers quite long lasting residual stimulation. Adding MXE on top of an already hefty MDPV dose sounds like a recipe for disaster. Do as Sammy says, and also turn off any bright lights (don't sit in darkness obviously)
 
Nope just k-ciders. benzos seem to be doing little, I thought they had a long half life. The booze wrks best for taking the edge off. If you guys really think I shouldn't take ANY MXE at all I won't bbu would like to know why exactly you don't think even a tiny amount may be beneficial? I have some ODT too... maybe that would be more appropriate out of the two? For killing this stimulation :/

I'm not not listening to your advise, I wouldn't have bothered asking in first place if I didn't plan on listening, obviously I don' want to listen but I want to know the reasoning (if you can be bothered for not taking mxe...when it usually relaxes me even on peevee. Are you playing it safe based on my lack of sleep and huge dose of peeve? Is it respiratory depression from booze and mxe and benzos? Or is it just a no more drugs sort of time advise?
 
I'm going to pretend you said a low dose of mxe was safe and keep it very low. Joking. I said I'd listen, and I can guess your responses based on one above mine and others I saw in other topic.

How about ODT? Any amount at all?

If not benzos and k-cider it is. sadly :( but appreciate the honesty.
 
I've heard of cats who sense impending death who do that.

Rip flo

Maybe it does sense a whiff of ego death " used to describe a permanent loss of attachment to a separate sense of self and the need to hold on to a separate, self-centered existence"

I am all for that. thought you would be too?

In other none self centered possibly even helpful posts. Tangerine those diclaz are fucking dodgy as hell-lost many hours on a few. Try riding the storm..can you eat? Have you drunk lots of fluids?

<3
 
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Nope just k-ciders. benzos seem to be doing little, I thought they had a long half life. The booze wrks best for taking the edge off. If you guys really think I shouldn't take ANY MXE at all I won't bbu would like to know why exactly you don't think even a tiny amount may be beneficial? I have some ODT too... maybe that would be more appropriate out of the two? For killing this stimulation :/

The opioid sounds more appropriate than the PCP-like. But not a great idea either with the benzo's and drink in your system. Alrught that's enough HR for the day
 
I'd say ODT, but I'm wary of its relationship with tramadol, despite the 'no SNRI properties' claims. Maybe that's superstition. I dunno.

How many ciders have you got? If you throw in more benzos, then you could work it out that way.
 
On top of booze and long acting benzos?? Its shit but just ride it out man.. you dont want to fuck up now after surviving something that would kill most out right... take care
 
I could eat something but it would be a hassle. I've drank water ate an apple and had vitamins earlier but only strong cider (slowly since 11am-now, had 2 in that time. Have 2 left, the diclaz seems ineffective compared to the booze but aim sure it is helping. At what point should I be concerned if If I remain to feel jittery/speedy? Its certainly a record amount of time already for me, with peeve e. I am tempted to have 60-70mg oct, but then wouldn't be able to finish my other k-ciders, which may end up being a mistake. A mistake may be doing nothing too how it sounds like you all think mcxd is off the cards -I can live with that.
 
Are you playing it safe based on my lack of sleep and huge dose of peeve? Is it respiratory depression from booze and mxe and benzos? Or is it just a no more drugs sort of time advise?
I just think it's such an unknown quantity to throw more substances into the mix.. it just feels like a very bad idea but I have no science to back that up, other than no one has probably ever tried it before and survived. ;)

Drink water and try to eat some more fruit? I have noooo experience of PV but would expect you to feel speedy for quite a while yet.. is Shambles around? I bet he'd know.
 
Ifi go for a 40mg odt dose with some more diclaz that is considered generally safe yeah? Not touch the other ciders. See hoe i feel on oct, I have had it a few times up to 100mg plugged and on 2 etizolams and it made me puke, i learned my seer spot was 70-80. If I start at 40 would you agree that is very likely to be safe? (if I don't drink no more, and only redoes the odt after an hour or so by maybe 20mg if needed? Thoughts?

Yes I'm being a pussy, but if is almost entirely safe thats fine. I listened to the unanimous mxe being a bad idea!
 
Well your typing is already a bit fucked, so I really wouldn't have 40mg. Or any. But someone else might disagree with me..
 
I don't think anyone is in the position to say what is safe and what isn't to be honest, it's not standard doses that are being dealt with. Crack on with the cider and see how you feel, if after the cider things are still pretty sketchy then decide on a different course of action.
 
It's times like this when we should all have some activated charcoal in the cupboard..I do after nearly killing myself on a fucked up 2-FA accidental od.
Sorry that isn't helpful right now..but food..try some more food...
 
Ifi go for a 40mg odt dose with some more diclaz that is considered generally safe yeah? Not touch the other ciders. See hoe i feel on oct, I have had it a few times up to 100mg plugged and on 2 etizolams and it made me puke, i learned my seer spot was 70-80. If I start at 40 would you agree that is very likely to be safe? (if I don't drink no more, and only redoes the odt after an hour or so by maybe 20mg if needed? Thoughts?

Yes I'm being a pussy, but if is almost entirely safe thats fine. I listened to the unanimous mxe being a bad idea!


No more drugs bro. Take a few more diclaz & shoot the ciders (if u know what I mean) so they hit stomach in seconds, or just drink em really fast and then lay in bed an try to sleep. Not helpin u sittin infront of an pc trippin. <3
 
I just don't agree its worth being as safe as possible all of the time. Not if its unnececery. I doubt anyone here is totally safe all the time, its finding / listening to advise here and learning, sometimes the hard way. That isn't meant to sound like I don't care about HR I appreciate the safest option is likely to take no other drug at all, but is the margin of safety between that and taking 40mg (instead of my usual 70-80mg dose ofODT while already factoring in the stimulation I may add, also having a natural tolerance to benzos, knowing exactly the amount I have drank is way less than I normally would (units a hour) and knowing what I think I know about ODTs sesuire amount vs tramdol being significantly less. Knowing 100mg while not on stimms with 2mg etizolam made me puke, once then nod and feel fine (not fall asleep) based on all of that I am taking the risk on taking 40mg ODT then maybe upping it by 20mg to a still lower than normal 60mg an hour to an hour and half later. I predict with quite certainty, it will help me relax, kill the stim in part or full over time, make me feel better and the risk is worse it. I hope no one thinks I am being stupid. Like I said I listened on the mxe being bad but had my thoughts odt if taken at half dose especially, would be safe. and I am secured enough in my decisions to carry it out. Be it on my own head obviously! I don't predict there will be any complications at all at this dose, other than maybe hiccups and some mild itching, accompanied by (hopefully) relief from feeling stemmed out my head for hearing 22 hours now :S

Other peoples comments helped me decide the rewards greatly outweighed any risks in this case. I am going to start off with no diclaz at all as i last had 2mg 5 to 6 hours ago. I don't think the sisure risk is worth the risk of adding more benzos given its half life and when I last had 2, also taking into account the lower dose of booze and odt than I would normally have. Thanks for you guys help :) I still think I could have got away with taking mxe knowing my history/tolerance with it well on tail end of peeve, but considered that a risk not worth taking due to my lack of evidence of effects of mixing them after such a huge dose coupled with all your no'd made that easier to view as risky, wishful thinking. I am experienced with opiates booze and benzos and have tolerance to all at the moment. I am also familiar with trandols seizure effect. Thanks for the advice :)

If it makes you feel any better I will start at 35mg ODT and make my way up to a possible 50mg total, but only if really needed will I consider redo sing at all. I was mistaken about puking on 2 stong ciders, 2 etizolams and 100mg odt, it was actually more like 120mg odt plus others. plugged, (I distinctly remember reaching 100, almost feeling like I was going to nod then adding a further 20mg (first session experimenting with it... Then feeling sick for an hour then puking up my soup after the hour and feeling good again. Hopefully that puts your minds a bit more at ease. But I do feel confident I am safe.

My bad typing is my vision not my hand eye coordination, if you are worried I appear dangerously benzoey due to spelling mistakes..it's because I can't make out the letters I type as they are too fuzzy to read. That typing so much twonk has also left me less kean to read through before I hit submit... if i bother to sit closer I am quite sure I am not that benzoed up. Or tired for that matter, annoyingly. Just becoming more achy and moving my head to check content of work is painful.


Anyway, I do hope you know I value everything thats said, I just have my own thoughts which are either confirmed or denied as good or bad ideas and try my best to make informed safe decisions. (Yeah I know 120 IMed peeves was far from safe but it was so stupid its on another level to this.) Like I said thanks for all your advise, I did my best to listen to it where I thought was needed and where I thought i could easily get away with it being too safe, unnecessarily safe. to the point of being silly (IMO. But I still appreciate all advice.) Thats why I decided to take the 35mg odt. And likely won't redose at all at this rate :)
 
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I like to say, "luck favors the prepared mind"

Wait this is not the right thread is it. What tab did I have the fortune cookie thread in
 
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