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Shambles said:
I don't think people really realise how much passion and effort it takes to keep EADD as lightly moderated as it is sometimes. We are part of a wider site and we do agree to abide by certain standards when we become members - not just the BLUA but also the EADD Forum Guidelines (and a recent reminder and precis of some of the more salient points of the latter stickified just recently too cos people seem to have forgotten or never knew in the first place). All three are but a scanty and short page apiece - hardly War & Peace and will take all of a minute or two of your time to read each. Is worth doing cos will save complaints about Nazi modding (hopefully) if people actually stayed within the rules. Mods don't make the rules but we do have to enforce them like it or not. And I would suggest we have it a lot freer in here than is the case with almost any other subforum on the site.
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Well said, shambles. The mods do a fantastic job here and people should be respectful of them n the work they do instead of complaining over such petulant nonsense.

Evey xxxx
 
The mods are a bunch of jokers, Evey. No need to be nice to them.

I'm treating myself to my second can of shandy after spending an afternoon in hospital and a couple of hours' frantic travelling to and fro. With a brief interlude in my favourite childhood park (still great).

Watching old guys nod out makes you almost jealous of them after a while. :\
 
raas_2012 said:
ermmm.... Guess it depends case to case, but suicide threats are, many times, just a front for someone who won't actually do it. From my observances anyway.

You're getting quite snip-happy recently, Shamster. Maybe it's for the best.... But it's giving room for my dream of "TOR eadd".

I want to create my own EADD forums, through TOR, for members to anonymously post on an unmoderated EADD forum.

We can discuss all those issues that you secretely wanted to talk about, but were never allowed too because of the ole "Harm Reduction" emphasis.

EADD TOR will contain threads like "So, if ya gonna kill urself what drug combo will you use?" and have controversial threads like "Was Knock's demodding a contribution to his death"? Things that can't be discussed here. Also all the personal slanging matches will be allowed to take place, with no holds barred.

The only foreseeable problem with eadd tor (apart from members learning and killing themselves in the suicide thread) is that it will be so damn cool, it will nullify the current forum, steal it's custom-base and render it vacant.






And admins if you are reading this and feel somewhat threatened by the idea and are considering permanently excluding me from this site forever more, please note I value this site to an extent and this post is nothing that a "never mention it ever again" and maybe a donation or two can't fix ;)

raas
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why would anybody be banned for that?

if you feel it's necessary, i encourage you to do it. be the change and all that. most disgruntled people post "somebody should..." and it never gets any further. at least you're talking about taking action yourself.

i would definitely echo shambles comments about the success of most attempts to 'replace' bluelight with something better. some never really got started because they were thrown together hurriedly. some did gain so traction in terms of members. inevitably they were started because somebody thought the bl staff were a bunch of nazis and wanted freedom. so they started a forum, made themselves and all their friends staff, and were 10 times worse than the bluelight staff - insulting people and banning them arbitrarily. the sites eventually imploding under the weight of their own hypocritical fail :)

so good luck! i can't wait to have a place where i can say what i want :)

alasdair
 
snolly said:
Just got woken up by a text from my ex telling me her husband had been rushed to hospital after taking what was labelled as EPH and experiencing what I would assume were dissociative effects. Apparently he was screaming he didn't know where he was, locked to the couch, screaming the house down for around two hours. He's conscious now but confused. She took the same stuff at a lower dose and different time, but decanted it into a smaller baggie when weighed and had a less intense experience, although 'it would have been alright at home but not in a club full of people'. So due to marriage and communication breakdown, she takes this, has a bad experience but doesn't tell him and intends to keep the bag to return, he finds the main bag, assumes all is well, takes his usual dose and BAM hospital.

She got a refund but was asked to send a pic and now there's no picture OR product to return but neither of us will be using them again

ALLERGY TESTS PEOPLE. This is your HR post for the day.
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THIS^^^^^^

Happened to us over the weekend. Got 3g Crystal, which was fine, then redosed w some powder "EPH" (wasn't) at end of weekend (during our PB chat lol but not to make light of serious situation) I thought my head was fuuuuuucked. Anyway, I am so so so sorry to hear of this. I also informed our vendor and they sort of shifted the blame on us, saying they 'test' everything and measure it and blah blah, when I described not only was the color, texture, and taste/smell different, but that we are experienced users and it's not about some refund, we just don't want this falling into the hands of someone who doesn't expect it or worse a kid who hasn't had experience. They then still didn't apologize but said they'd give store credit. I sent them a pic of the substance (DEF not EPH) and just asked that they keep people safe, I don't care about money. Lost a lost of respect and am not sure if some sort of shortage or mixup or whatever is going on, but it is bad. Please just be careful, EVERYONE.

P.S. I'll PM you later okay, it's just been a long day and rat race around this fucking island.

Hope all is okay with you and ttyl <3
 
alasdairm said:
why would anybody be banned for that?

if you feel it's necessary, i encourage you to do it. be the change and all that. most disgruntled people post "somebody should..." and it never gets any further. at least you're talking about taking action yourself.

i would definitely echo shambles comments about the success of most attempts to 'replace' bluelight with something better. some never really got started because they were thrown together hurriedly. some did gain so traction in terms of members. inevitably they were started because somebody thought the bl staff were a bunch of nazis and wanted freedom. so they started a forum, made themselves and all their friends staff, and were 10 times worse than the bluelight staff - insulting people and banning them arbitrarily. the sites eventually imploding under the weight of their own hypocritical fail :)

so good luck! i can't wait to have a place where i can say what i want :)

alasdair
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Shambles said:
You're one of many to have had that idea over the years. Was a similar situation in PD too years back. One of the ex/mods actually tried to create a "breakaway PD" where sources would be discussed and complete freedom of speech would reign imperious. Lasted all of a week I think. Actually I don't think it even got that far. There is a fundamental problem with these ideas and that is that EADD is part of a wider community and that provides many benefits not present in a small, new, homemade forum. I'm sure it's perfectly doable to create such a thing as you describe, problem is several already exist so why choose yours over those? And why are the existing ones not very widely used in comparison to BL? Forums live and die on content and EADD has over a decade of content and experience to draw on along with a potential membership in the hundreds of thousands. Somebody starting a new knock-off "naughty EADD" would not be competing with EADD - they'd be competing with all the other less-moderated, more sourcey forums out there. They are all rather small affairs from what I've seen which makes for distinctly desert-like threads much of the time - I suspect the reality is unlikely to live up to the dream but do feel free to have a crack at it. There's room for all - internet is a big ol' place apparently and nothing stopping members from contributing to multiple forums if they so wish :)

Dunno if I'd say I was snip-happy as such. I've edited no more than a couple dozen posts at most since recent modding that I recall. Not that my memory counts for much but it really ain't that many. As I said, time and place. I'm sure you can see that what you said could easily be misinterpreted or taken the wrong way and that would not be helpful. A lil thought and sensitivity goes a long way.
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Ah, no gentlemen, this was more a fantasy than an actual proposition. Hence the fact I said "my dream".

If it did work, it would be more of a parasite to the forum. It would have a cool codename like "EADD underground", or "Project Dolphin"... and everytime something erupted, like er... I dunno, SHM rants at Sammy_G and calls him a Nazi.... and Shambles and Snolly edit the hell out of it. We could say "Guys, look at project dolphin"... and all the Nazi insults would spill over there.

It would have to be on tor browser, for ironic reasons.

Oh and there would be much discussion about darkweb issues. As darkweb discussion is deemed unnecessary here



Shambles said:
I don't think people really realise how much passion and effort it takes to keep EADD as lightly moderated as it is sometimes. We are part of a wider site and we do agree to abide by certain standards when we become members - not just the BLUA but also the EADD Forum Guidelines (and a recent reminder and precis of some of the more salient points of the latter stickified just recently too cos people seem to have forgotten or never knew in the first place). All three are but a scanty and short page apiece - hardly War & Peace and will take all of a minute or two of your time to read each. Is worth doing cos will save complaints about Nazi modding (hopefully) if people actually stayed within the rules. Mods don't make the rules but we do have to enforce them like it or not. And I would suggest we have it a lot freer in here than is the case with almost any other subforum on the site.
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On a serious notes (the above was about 85% serious) my tor fantasy is no dig at the mods or admins, we (or at least I) really do appreciate the work put in here, dealings with personal issues etc and in no way taking a dig at staff or initiating some kind of revolt. This is just fantastical gibbering shite im coming out with.
 
alasdairm said:
why would anybody be banned for that?

if you feel it's necessary, i encourage you to do it. be the change and all that. most disgruntled people post "somebody should..." and it never gets any further. at least you're talking about taking action yourself.

i would definitely echo shambles comments about the success of most attempts to 'replace' bluelight with something better. some never really got started because they were thrown together hurriedly. some did gain so traction in terms of members. inevitably they were started because somebody thought the bl staff were a bunch of nazis and wanted freedom. so they started a forum, made themselves and all their friends staff, and were 10 times worse than the bluelight staff - insulting people and banning them arbitrarily. the sites eventually imploding under the weight of their own hypocritical fail :)

so good luck! i can't wait to have a place where i can say what i want :)

alasdair
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Never a truer word. I have first had experience one of those copy-cat non-censored sites. The mods are FAR worst to the point of complete n utter bullies, stalkers, flame-whores. I can't believe that ANYONE have found the staff here to be "Nazis,". They've been nothing but fair, as far as I can see.

And yes they may make mistakes at times but they're human beings n volunteers end of the day n if anyone feels that a mod has made a mistake then E-mail then n take to them about it. They don't bite y'know.

I, personally, have found Bluelight to be a safe place n a happy community where we all row now n then but sort it n 'tis forgotten about.

I love that staff here have to stick to a strict conduct because it protects us n them, stops any possible vendettas n makes it a safe place.

People really should think before they slag off staff because they're not paid for the work they do here n are genuinely caring people who try to help members n their safety n the site.

BL truly is the best, friendliest, most helpful n entertaining forum on the Internet!

Evey
 
Eveleivibe said:
Never a truer word. I have first had experience one of those copy-cat non-censored sites. The mods are FAR worst to the point of complete n utter bullies, stalkers, flame-whores. I can't believe that ANYONE have found the staff here to be "Nazis,". They've been nothing but fair, as far as I can see.

And yes they may make mistakes at times but they're human beings n volunteers end of the day n if anyone feels that a mod has made a mistake then E-mail then n take to them about it. They don't bite y'know.

I, personally, have found Bluelight to be a safe place n a happy community where we all row now n then but sort it n 'tis forgotten about.

I love that staff here have to stick to a strict conduct because it protects us n them, stops any possible vendettas n makes it a safe place.

People really should think before they slag off staff because they're not paid for the work they do here n are genuinely caring people who try to help members n their safety n the site.

BL truly is the best, friendliest, most helpful n entertaining forum on the Internet!

Evey
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Evey what are u talking about, I just said:

"On a serious note (the above was about 85% serious) my tor fantasy is no dig at the mods or admins, we (or at least I) really do appreciate the work put in here, dealings with personal issues etc and in no way taking a dig at staff or initiating some kind of revolt. This is just fantastical gibbering shite im coming out with. "

I'm not saying any member of staff is a "Nazi". Where do you get these things from?
 
I must confess to rather liking the uniform. The snazzy ones not the nasty brownshirted plebeian ones. Gotta look stylish when... doing Nazi stuff. If it was good enough for our fair prince it's surely good enough for EADD staff.

What I would suggest to people who may not be entirely satisfied with the way the forum is run is to apply to help run it yourself next time a position comes up. There are any number of things that irk me about this site (and there are far more things I <3 about this site hence sticking around all these years) and it seems entirely sensible to me to work to try to influence decisions which affect things around these parts. There's nothing special about me or any other staff member - anybody could be in the same role if they really wanted to be and then they would get to have some small influence over various site and forum matters. Don't get to decide much in unilateral stylee - that's really not the way things work despite what many seem to think - but you get a say. You get to argue a case and have others listen. Sometimes it makes a difference, sometimes not. It's nice to at least have the opportunity though.

Forums exist because of active members - not everybody gets to (or would even wish to) have a staff role but anybody and everybody on staff is first and foremost a member of BL. If you have the time and inclination to help express the various thoughts, views and opinions of your fellow forum members and maybe have some ideas of your own for ways to improve any aspect of the forum then apply for a staff role. Seems to me to be the best way of going about making positive changes.
 
Shambles, you are intelligent,funny, non judgemental,understanding and you write some great posts.
All in all the ideal person to be a moderator.
That is all, goodnight EADD
 
As a future super Mod in the making....seriously would never contemplate applying so don't panic plus I typewith one finger..so we would be here all day..because I would be a pain in arse and suggest erm a lot of recent talk should go 'ere? <3

The-EADD-Metathread-Megathread
 
Ha! Suggested like a true mod-in-waiting, Ms Flo :D

I'm not so sure what's been said here really counts as serious debate so much as a bit of whinging and a bit of modpride. Both are just dandy but wouldn't want to see proper discussions in the Metathreads clogged up with either of 'em either. Of course if this was a modthread we could debate the matter and act, as it's Gibberings I ain't moving stuff into it and y'all just have to live with it :p;)<3

Won't quote your post cos seems a bit wrong to do so somehow but thanks all the same, Max. You know you're a pretty damn fine moderatee dontcha know <3

And just to make it clear am not playing favourites... I do believe I was once prone to saying you are all my EADD babies. Not so sure I'd quite phrase it that way these days but sentiment is not so very different. I can say that cos I'm a bit old and got tens of thousands of posts sloshing about the place - means I get to be a bit sentimental about EADD and all who ride in her ;)

(also might mean it's lucky i only have one beer left :D)
 
Shambles said:
I must confess to rather liking the uniform. The snazzy ones not the nasty brownshirted plebeian ones. Gotta look stylish when... doing Nazi stuff. If it was good enough for our fair prince it's surely good enough for EADD staff.

What I would suggest to people who may not be entirely satisfied with the way the forum is run is to apply to help run it yourself next time a position comes up. There are any number of things that irk me about this site (and there are far more things I <3 about this site hence sticking around all these years) and it seems entirely sensible to me to work to try to influence decisions which affect things around these parts. There's nothing special about me or any other staff member - anybody could be in the same role if they really wanted to be and then they would get to have some small influence over various site and forum matters. Don't get to decide much in unilateral stylee - that's really not the way things work despite what many seem to think - but you get a say. You get to argue a case and have others listen. Sometimes it makes a difference, sometimes not. It's nice to at least have the opportunity though.

Forums exist because of active members - not everybody gets to (or would even wish to) have a staff role but anybody and everybody on staff is first and foremost a member of BL. If you have the time and inclination to help express the various thoughts, views and opinions of your fellow forum members and maybe have some ideas of your own for ways to improve any aspect of the forum then apply for a staff role. Seems to me to be the best way of going about making positive changes.
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I'm definitely going to apply next time there's a mod position. I've applied for a few n been refused but 'tis all good just means I have to try better next time n change things I'm doing wrong.

It's like all these people who fail driving tesrs about 4 times then pass. Just think how much they have learnt from those failings.

Max I totally agree with you about Shambles.

Evey xxxx
 
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