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mydrugbuddy said:
Change and loss affects everyone Eve. Some people find change easier to deal with than others. I hated change at work, it would take months and months to learn about certain things and become a sort of expert on them, and then they would scrap that thing and introduce something new, which meant i had to work hard to learn something new all over again. I guess i dislike change partly due to lazyness. Its like driving a car, it becomes automatic and instinctive once you've learnt how to do it, and i liked work where things became piss easy and could be done on automatic pilot, once i gained the know how, it feels good to have usefull knowledge and to feel competent that you know what you are doing.

I like a little bit of controlled change in my life every now and then, otherwise things would become unbearably dull, but i dont like big upheavals in my private life or my work life. My last workplace changed the system they were using to support their customers, so i went from being an expert having been there for so long i really knew my stuff, and then they introduced this new system that took me straight back to novice level, which i hated not having a fucking clue about anything all over again. That was one of the several reasons why i resigned from my job, as i just couldnt be arsed to learn about this new system, having spent the previous 7 years mastering the old one.

I dont really feel qualified to talk about Loss. Everone who knew Knock has been shocked, stunned, and saddened by this as he was such a great guy. You seem to be a very emotional person to me Eve, there's nothing wrong with that.
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Yes I'm an emotional person. I find it a weakness n despise it. It's the reason I got addicted to codeine... Stopped me crying over crap n feeling anything at all but feeling nice n calm, no stress, no constant anger, no being emotional. Then I had to quit n felt immense grief.... so turned to suboxone to address that n have been on suboxone since.

I wish I was one of those hard people who didn't cry, feel all these BS emotions. Unfortunately suboxone doesn't stop it all like codeine but stops me grieving for the codeine...

and now all those feelings are back.

So yes unfortunately I am an emotional person. ugh.
 
It's not neccesarily a weakness, it could be a great strength. Without meaning to sound like Spock i sometimes try to engage my brain without having too much emotion attached. But im hardly a great example of being well-adjusted. I sometimes seal off my emotions, and just procees things mentally, the attached emotions will eventually hit me, but i kind of seperate out the 2 things sometimes as a means of coping, so that i dont immediately respond emotionally to everything all the time. I was sick of feeling vulnerable and open to being wounded all the time by the slightet of things. Put me infront of a sad film though, and I'll cry like a bucket. Thats a safe environemnt for me to release my emotions. Oh yeah, im using massive doses of benzos and this may be having some bearing on the way im dealing with things atm.
 
Eveleivibe said:
Yes I'm an emotional person. I find it a weakness n despise it. It's the reason I got addicted to codeine... Stopped me crying over crap n feeling anything at all but feeling nice n calm, no stress, no constant anger, no being emotional. Then I had to quit n felt immense grief.... so turned to suboxone to address that n have been on suboxone since.

I wish I was one of those hard people who didn't cry, feel all these BS emotions. Unfortunately suboxone doesn't stop it all like codeine but stops me grieving for the codeine...

and now all those feelings are back.

So yes unfortunately I am an emotional person. ugh.
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You have struck me as being overly emotional. Better to address why you have become this way and identify solutions... postponing the problems and developing drug addictions is obviously a dangerous way to deal with it.
 
If you can harness the stength of your emotions in a positive way that could really help you massively. Its very easy to type that, i know that it's far more difficult to do it. You wouldnt want to be an emotionless zombie, what would life be without emotions, but there is some kind of middle ground that some people manage to live in.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
I watched that documentary about Osama Bin Laden: Shoot To Kill the other week. My respect for Obama went up even more after that, his advisors were telling him there was only a 30-60% chance they could be certain that Bin Laden was in this compound they were planning a raid on in Pakistan. It could have triggered a state of war with Pakistan, if Bin Laden wasnt there. Obamas advisors were split 50/50 on their advice, and it was down to Obama to make the call to ahead with the mission, knowing the stakes were very high. It was an excellent documentary, I'd recommend it to any one.
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Thats funny because I watched it and the opposite reaction.
I thought it foolish to risk at worst a war at best strained relations with a key ally just to murder one man.
Bin laden should've stood trial. I'm no conspiracy theorist but I do wonder why they were so damn keen to have him silenced.

But yes it was interesting to watch

ps - you say your respect for Obama went up 'even more'
May i ask ?
What has he done to win your respect ? Seems no different to the rest of 'em to me.
Worse in some ways, he really likes his drones and guantanamo is still there
 
He had to shoulder the entire responsibilty for the decision, if Bin Laden wasnt there it could have ruined his career and possibly started a war with Pakistan. It was a courageous decision.

I was thinking the same thing about giving him a trial, rather than shooting dead an unarmed man like they did. I think they wanted to avoid creating a martyr out of him, thats why they buried him at sea, so that his grave couldnt become some sort of shrine.
 
Obama is the lowest of the low, there's absolutely not a shred of evidence that they did indeed kill Osama, body burned and buried at sea? Yeah right, normal procedure they would have flown it back to the States for tests and analysis. Then what, how many of that SEAL team died under weird circumstances since that operation?

Obama is an incompetent criminal, should be impeached. Obviously, I never hid the fact that if I were a yank I'd be more Republican leaning(well Libertarian), but still I have nothing but contempt for Obama, I hope Putin humiliates him on Ukraine as he has so far done with Syria(why do you think all of a sudden the US and their French and British lapdogs changed their minds about intervention.)

Putin is definately not an angel but is miles better than that posh tosser you have in the UK, that French degenerate and whoever is our PM this week.(sorry we change governments too much, can't keep up).
 
There were tests and analysis; there was a DNA match with one of his immediate family members, and photographs were taken and computerised face matching techniques proved beyond doubt that it was Bin Laden. Also he was unusally tall at 6 foot 4, they got one of the tallest troop members to lie next to him to prove his height. Those 3 things taken together prove it beyond doubt in my mind. There was no mention of burning his body.

Not one member of the SEAL time died AFAIK. There was only one armed person protecting the compound.
 
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Watched 2 documentarys on North korea today, what a weird messed up place it is. Seen a few docs on it before. so weird
 
^ MDB does it not occur to you that everyone might be lying? the media only tell what they want to tell and it's not just the soaps that are made for tv. \politicians give a fuck about no one but themselves.
 
It is possible, but why would they make it all up ? Its like those conspiracy theorists that believe that the whole landing on the moon thing was faked. Well maybe not quite that ridiculous. Yeah by and large politicians arent well liked or respected for the reasons you mention, but there have been a rare few that had principles that they stood up for and stood by them; Robin Cook, Claire Short, Tony Benn etc.
 
Osama was on the CIA payroll to do their dirty work, been so since the 80s, for all we know he could have been dead for the past decade. The more I read about the whole operation the more I think it was all a set-up.
 
Mental Kenny said:
I hope Putin humiliates him on Ukraine as he has so far done with Syria(why do you think all of a sudden the US and their French and British lapdogs changed their minds about intervention.)
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I think here in the UK our m.ps voted against bombing Syria, because they realize the public are sick of wars. I don't think Putin was an influence. Not as if he would stick up for syria ( except by proxy and we're all doing that anyway )

ps - iirc The uk voted first. For once we werent being lead by the nose
iirc that is :)
 
bummer said:
I think here in the UK our m.ps voted against bombing Syria, because they realize the public are sick of wars. I don't think Putin was an influence. Not as if he would stick up for syria ( except by proxy and we're all doing that anyway )

ps - iirc The uk voted first. For once we werent being lead by the nose
iirc that is :)
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Assad owns Putin billions in unpaid money for weapons, plus the Syrians allowed the Russians to set up a base in Tartous, the only Russian naval base in the Mediterranean. There's a ton of Russian military advisors in Syria, at least until before the civil war broke out. It's actual Russian crews that man the S-200/300 air defense systems the Syrians have.

If there's one topic I'm more informed than RC dissociatives it's international affairs, worked in the field for years
 
I dont believe for a minute that they killed Osama, what would be the value of just killing a man with his kind of information, they say he'd been out of the Al-Qaeda ranks for a long time, so they say, but he'd still be of more value alive. He has/had info...

If he hadnt been an active member of Al-Qaeda he's no longer a real time threat, so why would you go in there on a wing and a prayer, uninvited into Pakistan just to slaughter a house full of people in the hope hes there..

I believe it was a PR stunt, nothing more. The war propaganda was wearing very thin so the US went out and bagged themselves enemy #1 so the public could start chest pumping and whooping "USA, USA, USA"....!

imo.... I dont know enough about it really but I know I dont believe the media or the governments...

On another note, why the FUCK did I start messing about with Opiates again, its so true about physical habits forming so much quicker when you've been there before :( Gonna be an unpleasant weekend, CT from tomorrow, VIT-C, cranberry juice, ibuprofen and a few diazs...!
 
Mental Kenny said:
Assad owns Putin billions in unpaid money for weapons, plus the Syrians allowed the Russians to set up a base in Tartous, the only Russian naval base in the Mediterranean. There's a ton of Russian military advisors in Syria, at least until before the civil war broke out. It's actual Russian crews that man the S-200/300 air defense systems the Syrians have.

If there's one topic I'm more informed than RC dissociatives it's international affairs, worked in the field for years
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Is this enough for him to actually go to war over though ?
I don't think so

Whats your take on the ukraine thing ?
And what was your job ? sounds interesting
 
No such thing as Al-Qaeda anyway, huge media creation, let's just say there's a current of radical wahabism exported from Saudi Arabia and other oil rich nations of the Gulf that has been aggressively spread around Muslim countries, turning peaceful communities to extreme ideas. This led to the creation of terrorist groups all financed by the same sources and broadly following the same ideology, but it's not like there's an Al-Qaeda headquarter with the bad guy strokin his white cat
 
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