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Gibberings CLVII: Clinging to all the right places

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Ah, so it may be the genuine article.

I just found it peculiar how 6-APDB (which was far more eagerly anticipated than 6-APB) only hit the market once the x-APB ban was imminent. Seemed like a ploy to shift some of that slow-moving 6-APB backlog.

I'm a cynical sort of guy, in case you didn't know already.
 
6-APDB is deffo on the market albeit UK illegal and yeah IMO it's no great shakes on it's own but combo'd with 4-FA, well, it blew my tiny mind. Thank you Pagey for recommending this no-doubt highly neurotoxic but extremely fun combination <3

I know cos I have two bags, one with 6-APB and one with 6-APDB and they're different drugs. The 6-APB is hohum and the 6-APDB is a bit better. But with 4-FA it's like MDMA on steroids.
 
comboed with 4-FA? 100mg of each maybe, as a starting dose.

On it's own? Nah don't do that, combi it with 4-FA. But be prepared to puke.

Pagey will come along with more accurate (and higher, don't listen to her, she's a bloody fiend) doses than these.
 
knock said:
6-APDB is deffo on the market albeit UK illegal and yeah IMO it's no great shakes on it's own but combo'd with 4-FA, well, it blew my tiny mind. Thank you Pagey for recommending this no-doubt highly neurotoxic but extremely fun combination <3
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Hehe. It's all about moderation ;)

knock said:
comboed with 4-FA? 100mg of each maybe, as a starting dose.

On it's own? Nah don't do that, combi it with 4-FA. But be prepared to puke.

Pagey will come along with more accurate (and higher, don't listen to her, she's a bloody fiend) doses than these.
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I'd go with 150mg 6-APDB and add about 100mg 4-FA once it's kicked in properly. Also do NOT go on a binge with this combo because you will eventually get serotonin syndrome, speaking from experience. It's fun for a few hours though.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
I found some of the Parisians quite incredible in their outlook and attitude. I have never met a more hostile, arrogant, conceited and pretentious minority of the population than what they had there. It was comforting to discover that people from other parts of France and Europe hated these type of Parisians even more than they hated the English. (I am of course not counting our famous Pagey amongst this group, and mean to offence to her, and hope she is not offended by my slight on her undeniably beatiful and cultured city) But why do they have to be so big headed about it. :?
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I don't like Parians either. Went to Paris in 1999 n they were arrogant n unhelpful n insulted me by calling me English when I'm Welsh. Mothing against England but I hate how foreigners just think of the UK as England n seem to forget Wales entirely although it is one of the most beautiful countries in the world xxxx
 
Hey whatsup with the Paris hate :( don't make generalisations about us please, some parisians are assholes and some aren't...believe it or not I've also met some londoners who were assholes and some who weren't.
What's usually taken as arrogance in Paris by tourists is more often than not simply a difference in culture. Being relatively cold to strangers is not something that's meant badly in the slightest in Paris, there's just a mutual understanding between the inhabitants that that's how it works there...it's not meant badly.

Anyway, not cool to insult us and then be just as pretentious :\
MDB I appreciate your singling me out but not quite sure how I could not be vaguely offended by that...
 
Sam, I think you've got it backwards. 6-APDB was what would probably have been more desirable, but depending on how one interprets the chemicla jargon of the MODA, it could arguably have already been class A, whereas 6-APB was unquestionably legal. I mean, I'm as cynical as the next guy, but I think the underhanded dodginess actually went the other way.
 
Pagey said:
Hey whatsup with the Paris hate :( don't make generalisations about us please, some parisians are assholes and some aren't...believe it or not I've also met some londoners who were assholes and some who weren't.
What's usually taken as arrogance in Paris by tourists is more often than not simply a difference in culture. Being relatively cold to strangers is not something that's meant badly in the slightest in Paris, there's just a mutual understanding between the inhabitants that that's how it works there...it's not meant badly.
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Quite.

I don't visit London often, but the atmosphere there is far, far worse. I think that people have this stereotype of Parisians as being arrogant, and it colours their perceptions accordingly.

I hear outsiders mention how 'warm' and 'friendly' people in the north of Britain are, but I really struggle to see it; not just in a metropolis like Manchester, but in some of the smaller towns, and especially in piss-factories like Leeds.

Basically, cities are intimidating places if you're an outsider.

babylonboy said:
Sam, I think you've got it backwards. 6-APDB was what would probably have been more desirable, but depending on how one interprets the chemicla jargon of the MODA, it could arguably have already been class A, whereas 6-APB was unquestionably legal. I mean, I'm as cynical as the next guy, but I think the underhanded dodginess actually went the other way.
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That's what I'm getting at (kinda) but I didn't touch upon the legal issues around 6-APDB.

It seemed that once it became apparent that 6-APDB was probably illegal, the vendors suddenly advertised '6-APB'. Then when it came to the point where 6-APB was going to be banned anyhow, they decided to throw caution to the wind and add the 'D' to the packaging in order to flog their stock.

So I should've questioned the existence of 6-APB really, rather than 6-APDB.
 
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knock said:
comboed with 4-FA? 100mg of each maybe, as a starting dose.

On it's own? Nah don't do that, combi it with 4-FA. But be prepared to puke.

Pagey will come along with more accurate (and higher, don't listen to her, she's a bloody fiend) doses than these.
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No obviously without the 4-FA, on its own
 
Sammy G said:
Quite.

I don't visit London often, but the atmosphere there is far, far worse. I think that people have this stereotype of Parisians as being arrogant, and it colours their perceptions accordingly.

I hear outsiders mention how 'warm' and 'friendly' people in the north of Britain are, but I really struggle to see it; not just in a metropolis like Manchester, but in some of the smaller towns, and especially in piss-factories like Leeds.

Basically, cities are intimidating places if you're an outsider.
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Exactly, thank you.
 
yeah sorry Pagey, with hindsight that was bound to be offensive. I did say a minority of the population of paris seem to be like that though. I think the same things applies to London, and New York by the sonds of what Amantitine says. Maybe all cities known as 'major world cities' some of the populaca have an attitude. 95 % of them seemed ok, just 5 % of them were like that, typical of me to focus on the negatives at the time. One of the market stall guys was really friendly, we couldnt barely speak a word of each others languages, but he figured out that i was english, just from my mannersisms or clothes or something. Weird, are we really that different ?
 
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Some people really really love it. I didn't get all that much out of it.
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I bought it cause I read some extremely good reports, I reckon as usual there was a problem with quality/purity issues with UK based vendors, hence one of the reasons I avoid them like the plague usually, 50% of times I buy chemicals from the UK I get shit, it used to happen back in the drone days too.

Anyway it was cheap so if it's garbage I don't care, so should I do like 120mgs for first time, then top up throughout the night?
 
hexagram said:
Plus my generation try to hard to be cool and disaffected. I think if your at a club on MD, you should gurn you tits off, loose yourself in the music, talk complete shite to strangers, forget about your ego and being cool, and just be a gurny loved up mess.
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Thats what its all about, people that try to be "ard" and disaffected are bell-ends
 
Got to find out whats wrong with my car and whether the AA will fix it for free. Some weird warning light came on last night and there was a burning smell when i got out the car. I hope to fuck the engine isnt burnt out and its something simple like a fan belt or something. I'll find out what that warning light means in a bit and then get on to the AA. If im still a member i can at least hopefully get my moneys worth out of them.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
yeah sorry Pagey, with hindsight that was bound to be offensive. I did say a minority of the population of paris seem to be like that though. I think the same things applies to London, and New York by the sonds of what Amantitine says. Maybe all cities known as 'major world cities' some of the populaca have an attitude. 95 % of them seemed ok, just 5 % of them were like that, typical of me to focus on the negatives at the time. One of the market stall guys was really friendly, we couldnt barely speak a word of each others languages, but he figured out that i was english, just from my mannersisms or clothes or something. Weird, are we really that different ?
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Yeah I've always found big cities to be more hostile in general, quite frankly I have no idea why Paris has such a reputation. As for why the guy would have figured out you're English, tourists from different places do tend to act very differently - if it makes you feel better, English tourists actually are some of our favourites ;)
I say that having lived 17 years 5mn away from the Eiffel Tower so I feel justified in saying I've been around tourists a lot!
 
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