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Gibberings CLVI: Back to the Future

Pretty good thanks, lacking sleep a bit rough but been worse :) hows everything?

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<3 4.15am cat alarm clock joy. Sounds like we could all do with some food and hydration ?..I could use about a weeks sleep. Sigh.
 
Succulent Sunday everyone - hope everyone is well today and making the most of the day :)

It was an effort getting out of bed, coffee was drunk, house has been cleaned, might go for a walk as its a pretty nice warm day.

Have a good one
Bear :)
 
Good morning world.
Mum & one of my sisters coming to visit me today so have been cleaning for the last hour or so to try and get it somewhere close to my mums standard of clean.
The flat looks better for it though.
 
Morning, Max. Lol Mams always have a high standard of clean. Think my Mam's kind of OCD lol (no offence to anyone who has OCD). Sounds nice that they're visiting you. Hope you have a nice time n a good Sunday x

Oh hiya Bearlove. Lol coltdan my picture is normal - it's when I upload from my iPhone that it goes like that. Bloody nuisance. I'm fine thanks x
 
Morning Evey,yes mums always have a high cleaning standard whereas 2 blokes sharing a flat not so much.
Just having a cuppa before she arrives. She's bringing me a food parcel that she has put together so looking forward to what goodies she has put in it.
 
Very sunny today, although still cold. Had a south park marathon with my mate last night, had a tons of spliffs, beers and food. Nice. what I needed, also getting some opium later on today, I had to give the cash to this other fella who's going to get it for me with ten euro commission so it ends up being 50 for the gram. Pricey as fuck, but hey, ket is 40 for the g here and MD is 60, our prices are fucked.

Went out on friday to one of this horrible wannabe-trendy clubs, full of 20-somethings, I hate when clubs have all those black and white photos on the walls to try and look cool, annoys me to shit, didn't even get any free drinks from my friend who's one of the owners, cunt I'm please I pissed all over the toiler floor before leaving. Next time I'll steal something.
 
inflorescence said:
Did you watch that DMT documentary (may have been on netflix)..I fell asleep ..says it all for me. Keeping with the speedy highs =D
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The documentary on netflix seems to have spawned loads of chumps that like throwing around the phrase 'spirit molecule'.
Most of those should resist banging on about it until they've read the book.

By the end of his research Strassman was so utterly fucked off with it all that he handed back his psilocybin that he had intended to be the focus of his next experiment. The DMT volunteers that swore they would change their lives and go back to college never did, and on the way his bhuddist chums shat on him.

Not hating on you inflorescence. :) Just bugs me that eejits seem to think the book's message is "DO DMT ITS FUCKING GREAT!"
When in fact the book's message is a bit more complex, and IMO honest, Strassman did make mistakes on the way ( some e-head got raped by a crocodile and traumatized for example )

And, again, just to be clear. I'm not calling you an eejit. I'm thinking more of the "42o y'all / tripping ballz" types... sure you've seen em in PD.... banging on about cough medicine and generally being all cringey.
 
soaring peace2 said:
The documentary on netflix seems to have spawned loads of chumps that like throwing around the phrase 'spirit molecule'.
Most of those should resist banging on about it until they've read the book.

By the end of his research Strassman was so utterly fucked off with it all that he handed back his psilocybin that he had intended to be the focus of his next experiment. The DMT volunteers that swore they would change their lives and go back to college never did, and on the way his bhuddist chums shat on him.

Not hating on you inflorescence. :) Just bugs me that eejits seem to think the book's message is "DO DMT ITS FUCKING GREAT!"
When in fact the book's message is a bit more complex, and IMO honest, Strassman did make mistakes on the way ( some e-head got raped by a crocodile and traumatized for example )

And, again, just to be clear. I'm not calling you an eejit. I'm thinking more of the "42o y'all / tripping ballz" types... sure you've seen em in PD.... banging on about cough medicine and generally being all cringey.
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Ahhh no no worries, Like I said I fell asleep half way through that documentary and have not managed to summon up the interest to watch the rest of it. Read a fair few reports and I know it's no for me at this juncture in my life. I don't claim to know much about it but been pretty scarred from some old lsd and shroom trips 20 odd years ago..so probably not one I should have a dabble with.
 
Shambles said:
Not wishing to make it seem like folk are "ganging up" or owt but I gotta third that, MDB. You're an intelligent fella - you know yourself that swicthing back and forth between mini-binges on one drug to another round and round trying to "balance out" or even counterract the effects of each other and/or the comedowns and rebounds from it all is a hiding to nothing. All you're doing is storing up a very nasty crash indeed cos it's just not sustainable. You can only get away with that kinda stuff for so long - believe me I know and have tried to wriggle out of it every which way and more but it ultimately all comes down to that piper demanding payment cos he will only take IOUs for so long :\

Drugs are great but I think you ("you" meaning all of us "yous" in similar positions) need to work with them and give your body a chance cos they won't. A period of abstainance - or as close as possible whilst still being heavily addicted to benzos - is not the same thing as going all 12 Step on us. Drugs are great but we don't need to be taking all of 'em all of the time - if body, mind and soul are given a chance to get back on more even keel you reap the rewards in very many ways. One of those ways being that you get more from those luvverly, luvverly droogies and minimise the shittiness of addictions and dependences and tapering plans and withdrawals and rebounds and... You get the point ;)

Just to point out this is not some kinda lecture aimed at you as such - I totally include myself in all of that along with anybody and everybody else who has these kinda issues. Not for one moment suggesting it's easy cos I know damn well it isn't, but I do think it's something worth trying for. I'm even trying for it myself 8o
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thanks for taking the time to clarify things. i've not really started the etiz taper yet, well its gone back up again recently, possibly because i was using kratom, which can be stimulating ? All the kratom has now gone and i wont be re-ordering for a while. Jesus is that stuff nice and i found it compulsive, which is a clear danger sign.

The etiz taper is gonna take atleast 6 months i reckon. Ideally i would not touch another substance during the whole of that time, but i just dont think that is realistic. Serotonin stimulant binges may well desatbalise my mood for a few days, thats generally the worst they do. But they do lead to a temporary increase in etiz. Same seems to apply to kratom like i said, in as much as i need more etiz.

I am going to try to reduce the frequency of binges to as few and far between as possible. I agree that to much of that can be very destabalising and will mess up my etiz taper completelty. But st the moment the prospect of nothing but mirtazapine and 6 months of tapering down off etizolam with nothing else is too much.
 
I've had that documentary for ages and not managed to watch it all the way through yet either, it's not the greatest.

In spite of the fucking shocking weather, and being up all night with the sensation of a tennis ball being stuffed up my arse (yay for anti-inflammatory steroid enemas that only work half the time), I kitted up and went for a run this morning. Just a mile, which doesn't seem very much, but it's the first run I've done in over 3 months, a surgery and an additional hospitalisation since then. Back in October, the day after I had the final op I was full of optimism and positivity and signed up for the Great South Run in October. So as long as I keep adding 1 mile per month to the distance I can run, I should be fit enough to do 10 miles in October. Hopefully.
 
Just invited a friend to a clubnight as he's whingeing about not meeting women, and he said "No, it'll be full of druggies." Well fuck you, then. 8(

soaring peace2 said:
And, again, just to be clear. I'm not calling you an eejit. I'm thinking more of the "42o y'all / tripping ballz" types... sure you've seen em in PD.... banging on about cough medicine and generally being all cringey.
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Hee. I like you. (And yes, I seem to know a lot of that type..) 8)

mydrugbuddy said:
thanks for taking the time to clarify things. i've not really started the etiz taper yet, well its gone back up again recently, possibly because i was using kratom, which can be stimulating ? All the kratom has now gone and i wont be re-ordering for a while. Jesus is that stuff nice and i found it compulsive, which is a clear danger sign.
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White kratom's fairly stimulating, aye.. it can be a bit moreish but I wouldn't call it compulsive at all.
 
YMMV Swampy. Bare in mind ive only recently finished a roughly 2 and a half year daily opi run, and as kratom tickles some of the same opi receptors i found it beyond my abilty to resist (well i didnt try very hard i must admit). I did plan to only use it on one day IIRC but that turned into a 4 day run until it was all gone. The only good news is no WDs, which im surprised and pleased about. Woohoo. Definately not ordering any more until the meet up, if that goes ahead, otherwise my next order will be pushed even further back.
 
Well, yeah, I was just talking from my point of view. I can't really speak from your point of view as that would be weird. ;)

But yes, it can be addictive. (For what it's worth, I agree with Sam & Shambles with what they said earlier. ^)
 
soaring peace2 said:
... sure you've seen em in PD.... banging on about cough medicine and generally being all cringey.
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Steady on, old bean. My second second home (currently more of an occasional timeshare at best, admittedly) is PD. I modded there for ages and the regulars are probably the nicest people on the whole of BL. However, I do agree with the kinda stuff that you're meaning. It is a bit heavy on the hippy-drippy stuff. It was always difficult to get the balance right over there. I like to think I brought a lil piece of EADD down to Earthness when I was a permanent fixture there cos it wasn't half as cliquey after I was sacked as it was before I started. Of course that could be down to any number of things but I'm quite happy to pretend it wasn't. I can see why people may be put-off by the style over there but it's a shame cos you won't find better informed, more knowledgable, kinder, nicer, more helpful people in all the BLand.

Mini-rant aside (I kinda have to really - it's my old non-EADD stomping grounds,) mornin', all :)

Tired today again. Didn't even drink much last night - two bottles of Weston's - and slept pretty well (I think). Ah well, it's not like I've got a busy day ahead of me or owt. Dozing in front of a Sunday matinee sounds just the ticket =D

Pee Ess: DMT = <3
 
yes i agree with them too, in as much as i know they are being sensible and 'right' about things.

Actually doing the total abstenance thing for 6 months or more though ? I find that too much to even contemplate. I suspect there may be a middle way, where it doesnt have to be underdurable total abstainance, which may lead to a complete and total relapse anyway, nor does it have to be 4 day binges of whatever i feel like every week either. But maybe one or 2 days a month or something like that i could moderately indulge in something or other. How's that for rationalising away uncomfortable truths/unpleasant prospects. :\
 
swampdragon said:
Just invited a friend to a clubnight as he's whingeing about not meeting women, and he said "No, it'll be full of druggies." Well fuck you, then. 8(


Hee. I like you. (And yes, I seem to know a lot of that type..) 8)


White kratom's fairly stimulating, aye.. it can be a bit moreish but I wouldn't call it compulsive at all.
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I find it fairly moreish in terms of redosing, when I first started I would compulsively redose until I puked, now I know my limit so I don't even get to the point of being nauseated, well not usually anyway, I find the fact that it takes a while to come up and is never at your face like railing oxy would, leads you to feel you aren't quite there yet so you keep on going back to the spoon and eat more and more.

That's just me, as I've mentioned quite a few times on here already I seem to have a proper affinity for kratom.
 
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