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Gibberings CLVI: Back to the Future

Eveleivibe dont be so silly and take things to heart, you're very much welcome n never forget that x
 
Eveleivibe dont be so silly and take things to heart, you're very much welcome n never forget that x

That basically.

That and I suspect the Suboxone Forum is gonna be one of the US-centric forums and they do kinda look down their nose at "lesser opioids" compared to other folk. I seriously doubt anybody here is gonna mock anybody for having a problem with any drug. It's just not the kinda thing that'd go down well with folk here - bullying and belittling does not fly. Bitching and arguing absolutely does but I never see any of it as personal or mean really. Maybe one or two people that could learn some manners but they are very much in the minority.

I truly don't think you have anything to worry about and are jumping at shadows. Also bear in mind that EADD is kinda different to the rest of BL - most folk who post here don't even use much of the rest of the site. We're notoriously parochial but also notorious for standing up for each other and looking out for each other. It's obviously gonna take a while for people to get to know you properly but I really do think you'll find that we're just not very judgemental around here. Have you read some of the stuff people admit to?!? :D
 
Getting drunk at mo. Thanks means a lot. And I can't help taking things to heart. This is something that bothers n I tried to help this person was worried because he keeps relapsing. He's only just got his life sorted n lost everything over H. I was really concerned n just wanted to help him that's all
 
I haven't seen the posts in question and it's really not my bizniz so I can't really comment on the specifics. Nobody should be belittled for having a problem though. People are different and what is easy for one can be pure hell for another. I've been addicted to just about everything it's possible to be addicted to to one extent or another over the years. I still rate codeine w/d as being pretty frikkin nasty. Even recently when I was using fairly large amounts of codeine for back pain I felt the need to taper rather than just stop cos it really isn't pleasant at all. And, as I said in t'other thread, it's not like you went out of your way to ask to be put on bupe (at least that's not the impression I've gotten). It's doctor's decision not patient's as to what treatment options they go for.

And, for the record, I happen to be drinking a nice bottle of red myself tonight. Wine is tasty. Nowt wrong with a drop of wine of an eve :)

An ocean of wine on a daily basis is another matter admittedly. But I don't do that anymore. Often.
 
Oh yes, I do remember now. Not gonna lie, it is unusual to be put on bupe for a codeine addiction. I've never heard of it being done but am not gonna argue with what your doctor has prescribed. If it's working for you it's working. There are other things to be taken into account than simply what you were taking at the time of seeking treatment. I've said before that I was put on bupe again fairly recently essentially to replace codeine. My situation is rather different to yours but it's the bigger picture that has to be taken into account when weighing up treatment options.
 
Yeah i was on Subutex 4n a half yrs. Codeine is converted to morphine and when youre downing 40,50-maybe 60 pills a day it aint quite as weak anymore...
 
Oh yes, I do remember now. Not gonna lie, it is unusual to be put on bupe for a codeine addiction. I've never heard of it being done but am not gonna argue with what your doctor has prescribed. If it's working for you it's working. There are other things to be taken into account than simply what you were taking at the time of seeking treatment. I've said before that I was put on bupe again fairly recently essentially to replace codeine. My situation is rather different to yours but it's the bigger picture that has to be taken into account when weighing up treatment options.

Its actually very common and becoming more so, funding cuts permitting.
 
It does seem strange, ive heard plenty of people reccomending codeine to get off bupe, and not the other way round.

I guess the reason is that bupe is meant to be non-recreational. YMMV. For me i had to get down to sub 1 milligram doses before this happened. In that way it seperates out the psycholigical and physical aspects of w/d a bit, so you can start trying to adjust to relative opiate sobriety, whilst you are still being kept out of physical withdrawals. It means you dont have to deal with both things at once, so in theory it should be easier to taper down with and jump off at the end.
 
Stop being so sensitive, talking bollocks and taking everything to heart
 
you're sounding a bit paranoid and like you're getting things a bit out of proportion. (1 person has been unpleasant to you ?) I do that all the time myself thats why i think i can spot it. Enjoy your drink and forget your persecution complex (please forgive the amateur armchair psycholgist comments, they are not meant to be nasty, im just calling it as i see it)
 
^ Indeed. Hallelujah.

Its actually very common and becoming more so, funding cuts permitting.

Really? I must admit to being surprised. Then again, if docs find a thing that works they do like to prescribe it for anything they can think of prescribing it for. Kinda like how you are not entirely unlikely to prescribed SSRIs if you get a cut on the knee or stub your toe or summat. Possibly.

Oh fuck it all im getting drunk now everyone can laugh evey is a bastard fkn joke of bluelight

You're not "the joke of bluelight". If you go off the deep end every single time somebody posts something you don't like you may end up that way though. I have no idea what the situation in the OD Suboxone Thread is but that's an OD thing. The subforums on BL don't necessarily have all that much in common. OD is pretty damn strict and mostly inhabited by American teenagers who like "banging oxy" and "snorting Vics" and stuff. It's a very different kinda forum with a very different kinda regular poster. By all means vent here in Gibberings but please don't think that the whole of BL acts, thinks and behaves like one individual you've had a difference of opinion with in a different subforum. This is EADD not OD - I don't think anybody here is judging you in the slightest. I have read plenty of supportive posts for you here though.

I could point out that alcohol is a depressant so unlikely to make you feel better but I would also know that I have frequently gotten drunk to try to "drown my sorrows" so I'd actually be mentioning it as a broader point and not specific to you.

Enjoy the wine <3

Anything nice? I treated myself to a slightly more expensive bottle than I'd usually buy cos was on offer and I liked the label. Was tasty stuff too. Cab Sav can be bruital stuff when it's not good but this one was all soft and yummy and that. We actually have a wine recommendations thread around here somewhere if you're into wine. It has some sentimental value to me cos was actually my first major modjob saving it from one of the occasional clearouts we have. True, but uninteresting, story :)
 
It's a shame you feel that way, Evey. I don't think there's much more people can say cos everything anybody does say you don't seem to understand or are somehow getting all twisted up and wrong end of the stickifying. I hope you take a moment to re-read the posts you think are mocking you (the ones here I mean - can't speak to what has been said in OD cos I've not looked) when you are in a better frame of mind. You will see that you are not being mocked at all - you've actually gotten a lot of support so far. It's entirely up to you, of course. We don't like to lose members - hopefully you'll take a breath and live to fight another day <3
 
^ this

Shambles has made the effort to portray a reasonable point of view, you dismiss it, along with everybody else, dont tar us all with the same brush, maybe when you stop being in a frustrated rage you'll get things straight, or maybe not
 
yeah i had a simillar episode a few months back Eve. Best thing to do is logoff, cool down, and forget about this place for the time being. Shambles has made a huge effort to try to help you, but you are not in a receptive state of mind at the moment. I do speak as someone who has been through exactly the same thing.
 
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