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Gibberings CLVI: Back to the Future

Sammy stop chatting up the young men.

ColtDan, what drugs are you on tonight? (Lemme guess. Vallies, alcohol, 4-fa?)
 
you wouldnt get very high odds on that Raas.

I think im gonna get some 4fa, that way i can space out my kratom sessions further and still have some fun getting high. I think my key worjer was very disappointed with me last week, they are not going to convert me to total abstainance, at least not foe the forseeable immediare future. I went there to get support for my dependency issues, they seem to want me to sign up for total abstainance. My counselling has taught me to be more accepting of who i am, so sorry folks i dont think you're gonna completely 'cure' me. But if i just get a much better level of control over my drug use that will be all i want, for now.
 
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mydrugbuddy said:
you wouldnt get very high odds on that Raas.

I think im gonna get some 4fa, that way i can space out my kratom sessions further and still have some fun getting high. I think my key worjer was very disappointed with me last week, they are not going to convert me to total abstainance, at least not foe the forseeable immediare future. I went there to get support for my dependency issues, they seem to want me to sign up for total abstainance. My counselling has taught me to be more accepting of who i am, so sorry folks i dont think you're gonna completely 'cure' me. But if i just get a much better level of control over my drug use that will be all i want, for now.
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Do you get piss tested by your keyworker Mdb and if you do get drug tested do the RC drugs show up at all.
I still have to do piss tests every now & then just so they can make sure I haven't started using again.
If I was using it would show up on the piss test & the mouth swab test but I've wondered for a while now if all these new drugs show up on drug tests and if they do then what do they show up as?
Fucking hell, I should have learnt by now not to have a cup of tea after 10pm or I will keep needing to piss through the night
 
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mydrugbuddy said:
its all public knowlege eve, i started a thread asking for advice, i got a proper well thought out and totally reasonable response from one of EADDs most loved characters, it wasnt what i wanted to hear though, so i ranted and raged at him like a lunatic because he was telling the truth and not telling me it was OK to keep on getting hammered on every substance in my possession every night as i wanted to at the time. Not surprisingly that didnt go down well. I got some stick for that that i deserved. I also then became a target for trolls deliberately trying to upset me and wind me up further. The moderators banned the trolls and deleted the nasty posts. I dunno what Shambles said to you the other night, i guess maybe even Shambles has an off night, as we all do, but right here, right now, no one is being nasty or trolling you.
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I don't understand what you're saying, mdb, ad I've been drinking - but I've no problem with you whatsoever so please don't feel that I have. U have PMd you so all is good, OK. You n I have been in PM. I am kewl with you n always here - all is ok. You have NEVER judged me.
 
maxalfie said:
Do you get piss tested by your keyworker Mdb and if you do get drug tested do the RC drugs show up at all.
I still have to do piss tests every now & then just so they can make sure I haven't started using again.
If I was using it would show up on the piss test & the mouth swab test but I've wondered for a while now if all these new drugs show up on drug tests and if they do then what do they show up as?
Fucking hell, I should have learnt by now not to have a cup of tea after 10pm or I will keep needing to piss through the night
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no, no tests, i just tell them honestly what ive used and what i ntend to use. I think it finnally dawned on her in the last meeting that i am not goiung to change my ways, at least not in the very near future. I get the feeling she feels sad for me, but why, i dont feel sad for me, i enjoy taking drugs. Different parts of my treatement are at odds with the others, counselling is to accept who you are, whilst the others want to change who you are. Its a bit messy. For me, the goal is to know myself, accept myself, maybe even like myself more. Maybe drugs should become a lesser part of my life, i could work towards that maybe.
 
maxalfie said:
... if you do get drug tested do the RC drugs show up at all.
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Totally depends on the RC. Many will show up as something related but better known (I show positive for cannabis every single time yet very rarely smoke actual cannabis, mostly just synths). Most of the stims - and several of the psyches - will probably show as amphetamine cos they do have an amphetamine skeleton only with nobs on. Benzos (or nearly benzos) will show for benzos. Dissociatives may show up as ketamine and/or PCP (apparently some tests check for these but the one I have to take doesn't). Sure I read someone (MBD probably) mention that AH-wotsit doesn't show up as anything but may be mistaken and sure he'd know better.

Generally speaking, I would expect an RC to show a positive if it's closely enough related to the stuff that's most widely tested for but I know some don't show up as anything even when you'd expect them too.
 
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