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GHB

The thing I hate most about GHB is a lot of its users! The stupid people who use it with booze or coke themselves up to the gills. Or worse still use it for date rape!
GHB is a really nice, gentle relaxing drug for use AT HOME, its not a party drug at all in my view. Its just like having a couple of beers in the evening but much nicer all round.
We used to be spoilt in the UK because we could up untill about 2 weeks ago buy it from online pharms in pure powder form. But now the UN is putting pressure on lots of countries, the UK included to ban it and they have closed down.
Out of all the drugs I've done I would say its my favorite, not because its the most pleasureable, (although it is) but because I can see myself doing it for years to come. Well that is if I can get it.
If your going to do G please be careful because stupid users have already ruined it for a lot of us.
 
GHB- known as The Date Rape Drug...
enuf said.
My opinion on it: stay away from it- it's bad news.
You do feel like you've been drinking a large amount.
You feel spacy, dizzy, and sometimes get headaches.
The thing about g is, it only takes a tiny tiny bit to fuck you up. If you take a tiny bit too much, you're gonna probably pass out. And when you pass out on g- it's not good unless you're in a safe environment with people you can trust.
Peace! -Tara-
 
GHB is a bad drug in my eyes...just because i've seen too many people not use it responsively. I've tried it myself and not really enjoyed it ya know...but my bf put a bad taste of it in my mouth...imagine having to beat the shit out of your bf to get him to come out of the hole...and at the time i knew nothing about drugs..any of them..so there's my OP..pe@ce
 
no thats incorrect, there are several drugs known as "the date rape drug", and as such its a useless term...
 
Absolutely THE date rape drug is alcohol. There are many many more effective date rape drugs than GHB. I'll bet that you have at least one at home with you now. I'm not going to name it here but a couple of grams mixed alcohol will put people out for the count. You almost certainly have it in your home or work or school right now.
Harry
 
Originally posted by Medeival_Princess:
I have heard alot of horror stories about ghb. But then I also heard people talking about how its the greatest high if you don't abuse it (dont take with alcohol, dont overdose, dont take it every day, only take a tspoon full at first) What is the truth in the opinion of experienced users. And isn't it illegal now. I keep hearing it is in the U.S. but I also hear that you can make it by buying products over the counter. Is it legal in other countries? What is the real deal on it?
Thanks,
Jo

Here in Holland it WAS legal, now not anymore.
btw i now been on a G :)
 
it used to be LEGAL in the US as well...it used to be sold in poiwder form in GNC stores until stupid assholes started taking too much and ened up in the morgue..us dumbass americans fuck everything up...
god, i wish the stuff was still sold OTC..
 
It still is technicaly legal in the UK however since the UN stepped in with the most recent report on drugs no-where will sell it.
 
I only give it to drunk girls, if theres no rohies Settle down just my twisted sense of humor.Scum of the earth do those acts and give the drug a terrible name. GHB like most recreational drugs are great in the beginning before you realize the negative effects, obvouisly everybody re-acts differently. can be compared to alcohol to onlookers and you kinda feel drunkish.(my scientific evaluation).As I abused it more and more It becomes intolerable the physical symptons aren't enjoyable particaully the heart, It slows down considerbly and is feels on the verge of collaspe, but thats just me. GHB clean, i've had many batches over the years and honestly its not like comparing E its not that noticable. 1-4Bd has similar effects but i feel its 'less cleaner' than G. The dizziness is a certin effects and cant focusing the eyes, on decent doses you end up litrelly rolling around on the floor. I wouldn't go out and GHB be the nights substance I prefer it for comedowns as an alternative for alcohol,being up for days and speed, coke or/and XTC no longer have much effect or do but aren't enjoyable G is different a is at its most fun, personally Ketamine does the job better,G is a less chaotic alternative. Please no abuse about my opening line, A joke(well i found it funny}im very sensitive and fragile.
 
Oh yeah? I only give it to little kids. Just kidding, I don't give it to anybody
 
I recently swaped from pure powder GHB to GBL because of the legal problems the suppliers are finding in the UK.
Has anyone else found that GBL has a better feel with speed and GHB with MDMA. I found GHB at the end of mdma made me actualy feel worse when it wore off. But GBL seems to get better with it.
 
Yeah it's a date-rape drug - for girls to rape guys, LOL. When my girlfriends and I are rolling and take some G, we attack all our boyfriends. But hey, the more people think it is a date-rape drug, the more they stay away from it, the more there is for me! :)
 
GHB is a fantastic drug, as drugs go. It is, in fact, a FOOD, not a drug. Anyway, most of the rhetoric floating around these days is completely inaccurate. First off, GHB is NON TOXIC, period. Secondly, the safety margin of GHB is much greater than that of a wide variety of drugs, including Tylenol. The trouble starts when GHB is combined with other CNS downers. Alcohol is the main culprit in GHB deaths...well, that, and stupidity. The fact is that GHB overdoses in the strict sense are very, VERY rare. By itself, GHB is completely metabolized in just a few hours, into water and CO2. Which leads me to think that the whole addiction thing is questionable...because for a substance to be truly addictive in the clinical sense, there would be metabolites. H2O and CO2?? Addictive?? Hmm. I have done MASSIVE amounts of G. I have had two mishaps with it, both when I was uneducated about it. Each involved ingesting over 15 ml at one time. BAD BAD IDEA. Anyway, if you do not allow your chemistry to return to baseline, you can suppress your dopamine levels, which is bad to continue, because the rebound can be problematic. However, if you allow the return to baseline, the addiction threshold is minimal at best. I stayed on GHB 24/7 for an entire summer and quit cold turkey when I saw some gyno, with MINIMAL withdrawals. A few days of general moodiness and angst. The one thing GHB will permanently alter, however, is your sleep patterns, so be aware of that aspect. Doses should be measured in grams, or ml, EVERY time. The cap stuff is for kids who will soon discover that GHB has teeth, and will bite you in the ass if you are casual about it. Usage requires a high level of awareness and education. Know the concentration. Is it distilled to 28grams/oz? That is the practical upper limit of liquid GHB, give or take. At that concentration a full cap will knock the average man out cold. Usually dealers will dilute their batch for profit, maybe to 10-12g/oz. That is weak GHB, and that is where the capful shit started. Three grams of GHB is powerful, and is a relatively high dose. Anyway, just my two cents.
 
I'd aggree with most of what the above said apart from the sleep paterns stuff, although I was a bit of an insomniac before hand anyway.
GHB is a fantastic drug, it just needs to be handled with care, thats why I said its a drug for HOME use.
I recently tried GBL and the doseage curve on that is quite a bit steeper than GHB, I would say that stuff is much more dangerous.
 
Well, GBL is converted to GHB in the presence of water. As far as ingesting GBL straight, remember that it is approximately 1.6 times as potent in terms of volume, so you will need less for the same effect. It is almost as safe, except that one runs the risk of acidifying the blood (if they are prone) with straight GBL, so conversion is highly recommended. Other than that, they are the same.
 
Sorry to contradict you but gbl + water does not equal ghb. Also ghb is neutral and not acidic or basic.
 
Uh, well...GBL does convert to GHB in the presence of water. Na or K are utilized in home syntheses to make a GHB salt, not GHB. As far as being neutral, I realize this. I did not suggest that GHB was either basic or acidic. I was pointing out that GBL is acidic, and can lead to blood acidosis in some. the higher response curve is a result of greater bioavailability of GBL in comparison to GHB. It is, in fact, 1.6 times a potent as GHB on a gram to gram basis, which should help with dosing issues.
 
GBL does not completely hydrolyze to GHB in the presence of water. Converting to the Na or K salt is done for stability and keeping the pH slightly basic will prevent a reverse reaction from occuring.
 
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