Ghb withdrawls

[Need help asap]

Ive been using GHB for a month and a half now and I have to quit. Its getting bad and so are the wd. I recently today started a valium regimine to take the anxiety away and the tremors. I took 20 mg. Its going on 6 hours now and they are starting to come back mild. Any and all advice would be appreciated because im runnig out

 

[Transform]

The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread

You'll want to investigate NMDA antagonists to reduce your tolerance, which will help you taper. Tapering is key here, don't try to remove the withdrawals with something else addictive. You're in for a difficult few days, but there is a lot of support in that thread.

Good luck.

 

[BananasAndOranges]

The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread

You'll want to investigate NMDA antagonists to reduce your tolerance, which will help you taper. Tapering is key here, don't try to remove the withdrawals with something else addictive. You're in for a difficult few days, but there is a lot of support in that thread.

Good luck.

I agree. I have always known it works better to taper on this stuff then just stop and substitute. I would do the same thing though. Maybe smoke some decent herbs? I would get some sort of muscle relaxers on top of the valium.

 

[Nexus298]

Phenibut worked wonders for GHB withdrawls. It is easily obtained online and is a GABA B agonist.

How does NMDA antagonist stop the withdrawls? I know it works on opiate tolerances but I have never heard of it working on GABA B withdrawls, which is what is happening in GHB withdrawls.

 

[amanitadine]

Baclofen, Baclofen, Baclofen...

 

[MyExcuse]

This was posted on Blacklight by flabakani2:

Efficient method for virtaully withdrawal free cold-turkeying heavy use 30 day 24/7 gbl-binge:

As soon as the withdrawal symptoms hit, take 5-10 grams (roughly half tbsp of beta-alanine[5] along with good amount of water to preferably an empty stomach. Withdrawal symptoms are completely gone in 15mins. Repeat when needed.
Supportive supplements suggested: Multivitamins, zinc and additional l-theanine.

It yet seems the withdrawal is histidine and/or glutamate related.
Hence lamotrigine, memantine, and gabapentin does ameliorate the withdrawal.

References one might be interested:

[*] Efflux of a suppressive neurotransmitter, GABA, across the blood-brain
barrier. Kakee A, Takanaga H, Terasaki T, Naito M, Tsuruo T, Sugiyama
Y. J Neurochem. 2001 Oct;79(1):110-8.
[*] doi:10.1007/s00726-006-0364-4
[3] Brain Res Bull. 2002 Jan 15;57(2):231-6.
[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GABA_transporter
[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Alanine
[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-carnitine


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And here is a small literature review treat with clandestine prove to all the (elder)people who have angina pectoris and are treated with verapamil[7] or isosorbide mononitrate[8]:
Quit those meds. ~1500mg beta-alanine twice a day prevents angina pectoris as efficiently than verapamil does. Same goes compared to isosorbide which is mainly used for angina pectoris but give most of people symptoms:

About beta-alanine:
"Typically studies have used supplementing strategies of multiple doses of 400 mg or 800 mg, administered at regular intervals for up to eight hours, over periods ranging from 4 to 10 weeks. After a 10 week supplementing strategy, the reported increase in intramuscular carnosine content was an average of 80.1% (range 18 to 205%)" [4]

About l-carnosine:
paraphrase: "l-carnosine is as effective as verapamil" [10]

About verapamil:
"The pain of angina is caused by a deficit in oxygen supply to the heart. Calcium channel blockers like Verapamil will dilate blood vessels, which increases the supply of blood and oxygen to the heart. This controls chest pain, but only when used regularly. It does not stop chest pain once it starts. A more powerful vasodilator such as nitroglycerin may be needed to control pain once it starts."

About isosorbide mononitrate:
"sosorbide mononitrate is a drug used principally in the treatment of angina pectoris" [7].


References:

[7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isosorbide_mononitrate
[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verapamil
[9] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16868650
[10} Bharadwaj LA, Davies GF, Xavier IJ, Ovsenek N. L-carnosine and verapamil inhibit hypoxia-induced expression of hypoxia inducible factor (HIF-1 alpha) in H9c2 cardiomyoblasts. Pharmacol Res.2002;45(3):175.181

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Both these claims are tested in very clandestine manner in several "patients" and they work 100%. 6 months testing for the angina-pectoris use in each case.

For more info, make an account and go check it out.

Also, you should try this out, because if it works it should receive much more fanfare.

GHB/GBL is a hell of a drug, and if withdrawal symptoms could be ameliorated with simple OTC supplements, that would be amazing. Considering the severity of the withdrawals, for such a wonder drug, that is the only thing that would/should keep a person away from the stuff.

 

[amanitadine]

^^^I saw that too, and am very skeptical. Haven't seen any corroboration. Also, please edit yr post, that site really frowns upon being mentioned here, or links . .

 

[MMN]

i got beta alanine an again i'm addicted to GHB few days ago i didn't have GHB and i was hallucinatition like hell when i closed my eyes i heared people talking to each other and saw a big road where i say all kind of things


i will take a temazepam and got a bottle with beta-alanine ready when i wake up.

i read on an other site that beta-alanine an GHB analoge is i never heard of it.

tomorrow you guys will hear from me