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GHB with psychedelics. Safe?

freaktech

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I would like to combine ghb with some psychedelic, 2cb, 2c-i or 2c-c maybe, Is safe? The dosage for GHB and psych, would be my normal dose? My idea is dose GHB first to create a euphoric or positive spin to turn the psychdelic mental state more happier and funny and decrease disturbing posibilities. Am I right with this?
 
Measure the G before you drop the acid, then take the G when you are coming down from the acid, much better imo.
 
it depresses breathing something terrible. Its a dangerous drug imo.

It also removes a lot of the profundity of the psychedelic experience. I suppose if you are just using psychedelics for recreational purposes and not using them as tools to better yourself...then it would work ok. It would make you more fucked up.
 
Yeah because doses can't have unexpected consequences or anything. 8)

Such as?

I'm talking about responsible doses here.. You could say the same about anything..

Infact, MOST other recreational drugs PROBABLY have a HIGHER chance of causing WORSE unexpected consequences.
 
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GHB itself isn't safe...

Going along this rationale: nothing is safe.

Hence the need to evaluate the risks of different activities such as imbibing research chemicals and other GABA-fuckaloids into the brain. Furthermore, along with this goes the essential philosophy of harms reduction.

Bottom line: You can die from drinking too much water, and thank god that people on BL usually have more to say than "(X) itself is not safe".

"Alle Ding' sind Gift, und nichts ohn' Gift; allein die Dosis macht, daß ein Ding kein Gift ist."

"All things are poison and nothing is without poison, only the dose permits something not to be poisonous." -Paracelsus


Peace out.
 
I'm saying that GHB is highly variable in its dose and the dose that falls between recreational and toxic has a very small margin of error - I imagine that is magnified when you have other substances in your system as well.
 
It's actually pretty safe aslong as you don't mix it with alcohol (or other GABAergics)..
 
Sorry I've just seen too many G overdoses to call it safe in any sense of the word...

I have investigated it as a possibility for benzo withdrawal though... Concluded it was too dangerous. I've never actually done G just because of all of my friends who have OD'd on it.
 
I have investigated it as a possibility for benzo withdrawal though... Concluded it was too dangerous. I've never actually done G just because of all of my friends who have OD'd on it.

Yeah you really don't wanna be doin that xP G imo is alot more addictive (or.. alot easier to get addicted to) and withdrawals are fckin harsh..
 
Can't be worse than benzo or barb withdrawals...

It's probably not as bad as opiate withdrawals but my gut says it's worse than benzo withdrawals....

Have you ever seen alcohol withdrawals?... Not a pretty sight. There are physical symptoms like with opiates. Shaking, sweating, shivers, nausea, hot-cold flushes and all the works...

Never been through that stuff myself so it's pretty hard to determine which one 'feels' worse. If there is one thing Ketamine has taught me, it's that sometimes the way you look on the outside has nothing to do with what you feel on the inside. I've seen friends on K look like they are about to explode, throbbing veins and sweat, eyes bulging and ready to pop out and showing no sign of brain activity. When interrogated, they assure me that they are feeling 'just fine' and that I too look all red and ready to collapse, but I feel great.

I'm babbling on here.... anyways, I think withdrawals always suck, they just all suck differently I assume.
 
benzo withdrawals are worse than opiate AND alcohol withdrawals. Alcohol withdrawals and benzo withdrawals are pretty similar but benzo withdrawals drag on a lot longer and do a lot more damage. Opiate withdrawal is a walk in the park compared to benzo withdrawal.
 
benzo withdrawals are worse than opiate AND alcohol withdrawals. Alcohol withdrawals and benzo withdrawals are pretty similar but benzo withdrawals drag on a lot longer and do a lot more damage. Opiate withdrawal is a walk in the park compared to benzo withdrawal.

Ok, have done some reading here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome

I stand corrected. It seems Benzo withdrawals do suck a lot of balls. Thanks a lot, I learned something. I thought valium weren't half as bad as say morphine. However, I wouldn't go so far as to say that heroin or morphine withdrawals are anything like a 'walk in the park'.

(Sorry mods for this off-topicness)
 
Yeah I can't compare to anything as i havn't really been addicted to anything.. GBL slightly but i had a pack of benzos and loads of booze to ease the withdrawals.. but from what i've read GBL (/GHB etc) is on par with benzo withdrawal.. you can die from them, like other gabaergic PAWs..
 
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the withdrawal isn´t a problem for me (I´m not stupid and not dosage GHB 24/7, only use it for recreational purposes 2-4 times a month). My doubts are two:

-If it is dangerous mix with my personal dosage (this dosage alone isn´t unsafe at all, I measure the GHB pure in powder form with precission scale).

-How affect GHB the trip, if it turns more euphoric, emotional, easy, smooth or if instead add some negative effects or kill the magic for example.

Thanks for any help:)
 
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