Hello. This is my first post although i have been reading Bluelight for about 2mos. For the record i did looked thru just about every thread i could i did not find an answer to my question i also searched on Erowid. I have been rolling for about 2 years now (not every weekend, about every 3mos. if that) and have used GHB several times while rolling...and YES i do use in moderation...problem is the day after when i have used GHB my stomach is very upset...last time it felt like fire!!! Question: is there anything i can take to prevent this, if yes, what?
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badjessejames
Bluelighter
...WHAT...
GBL isn't even close to legal...it's every bit as illegal as GHB. You need a DEA license to purchase GBL in the US and I personally know people who have gone tp prison for posession of both GBL and BDO. The reason people do the conversion is GBL is a rather harsh chemical with still unknown long term effects.GHB has been studied since it was invented in 1950.Also many people (including myself) find GHB to be a much cleaner feeling (and just as strong) high.
Don't post information you're not sure about....especially when it could help land someone in prison.
[ 30 June 2002: Message edited by: badjessejames ]
GBL isn't even close to legal...it's every bit as illegal as GHB. You need a DEA license to purchase GBL in the US and I personally know people who have gone tp prison for posession of both GBL and BDO. The reason people do the conversion is GBL is a rather harsh chemical with still unknown long term effects.GHB has been studied since it was invented in 1950.Also many people (including myself) find GHB to be a much cleaner feeling (and just as strong) high.
Don't post information you're not sure about....especially when it could help land someone in prison.
[ 30 June 2002: Message edited by: badjessejames ]
GBL has a quasi legal status outside the usa and even if illigal it's easier to get hold of and cheaper.
often GBL is mixed with some GHB or even kitchen salt to create the illusion of real GHB. Mind You GBL is serious stuff, but i feel it's more harsh on the stomach.
Always make sure you take a little carb snack 15 minutes after ghb ingestion (a banana or a bag of chips are ideal) this will give your stomach acid something to "work on" dampening stomach discomfort
combining NA-GHB and allt the sweating you get from pills might offset your electrolyte balance, so make sure you drink enough gatorade.
Also most people are a bit short on Potassium so you could try to find Potassium-GHB (onset is somewhat slower as sodium-GHB as sodium is more readibly absorbed, but still)
often GBL is mixed with some GHB or even kitchen salt to create the illusion of real GHB. Mind You GBL is serious stuff, but i feel it's more harsh on the stomach.
Always make sure you take a little carb snack 15 minutes after ghb ingestion (a banana or a bag of chips are ideal) this will give your stomach acid something to "work on" dampening stomach discomfort
combining NA-GHB and allt the sweating you get from pills might offset your electrolyte balance, so make sure you drink enough gatorade.
Also most people are a bit short on Potassium so you could try to find Potassium-GHB (onset is somewhat slower as sodium-GHB as sodium is more readibly absorbed, but still)
You need a DEA license to sell/buy a large amount of GBL, but last time I checked GBL is legal, FDA just asked everyone to stop selling lactone and products containing lactone.
Oh yeah, and if it is every bit as illegal as GHB why isn't it even scheduled? Why is it a list 1 chemical, the same as ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, and safrole. I'm not saying you can just goto your local supermarket and pick up GBL, it is quasi-legal, you arean't gonna get arrested if you have a bottle of floor stripper that has lactone in iy , if you have GBL in a bottle mixed with water then you may run into some problems, unless you can prove you were using it for something other then to get fuxxored with.
[ 30 June 2002: Message edited by: twigburst ]
Oh yeah, and if it is every bit as illegal as GHB why isn't it even scheduled? Why is it a list 1 chemical, the same as ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, and safrole. I'm not saying you can just goto your local supermarket and pick up GBL, it is quasi-legal, you arean't gonna get arrested if you have a bottle of floor stripper that has lactone in iy , if you have GBL in a bottle mixed with water then you may run into some problems, unless you can prove you were using it for something other then to get fuxxored with.
[ 30 June 2002: Message edited by: twigburst ]
badjessejames
Bluelighter
To buy ANY amount of GBL from a US source you need a DEA license.You can still find companies outside of the US that will ship to the US.
This is only going to be happening for a short time longer....the most respected and longest running source has just been cut off by credit card companies....he received a letter that they knew he was selling the DATE-RAPE drug.
Chances are if you get caught with GBL it's not going to be in your cleaning supplies at home under the sink...and you will go to jail....don't you think everyone tried the "I use it to clean my ________ " defense.
This is only going to be happening for a short time longer....the most respected and longest running source has just been cut off by credit card companies....he received a letter that they knew he was selling the DATE-RAPE drug.
Chances are if you get caught with GBL it's not going to be in your cleaning supplies at home under the sink...and you will go to jail....don't you think everyone tried the "I use it to clean my ________ " defense.
"Gamma butyrlactone (GBL) is not federally scheduled but is now a list 1 chemical requiring that paperwork be filed for large sales. GBL is scheduled in some states."
I got this off of erowid.
I think the reason noone sells GBL in the US to people without license is just common sense, your not gonna get away with this shit, the DEA knows damn well what you are trying to do, just look what happened to Juice Loving Felons.
I got this off of erowid.
I think the reason noone sells GBL in the US to people without license is just common sense, your not gonna get away with this shit, the DEA knows damn well what you are trying to do, just look what happened to Juice Loving Felons.
Getting sick when taking GHB/GBL is quite normal for me. I use to always get sick either while I was doing it or the day after. I know this isn't the same for everybody but it is for me. So I guess what your experiencing is a normal side effect...
Surely the strength of the GHB/GBL has to be taken into consideration here? If it is made very strong it could be literally burning your stomach when its in it. I always drink a couple of mouthfuls of water immediatley afterwards to prevent it burning. A banana or carbs (as someone said earlier) usually helps me 2.
synchrojet
Bluelighter
GBLs acidity can cause upset, but so can the Na in NaGHB.
I think it wise to convert GBL. How can you tell what you have? One indicator is to test the pH. If you find that it is too acidic, you can adjust it toward 7.
If it is too basic, adding lemon juice usually does the trick.
Keep the pH toward neutral and your stomach problems will likely fade away.
I think it wise to convert GBL. How can you tell what you have? One indicator is to test the pH. If you find that it is too acidic, you can adjust it toward 7.
If it is too basic, adding lemon juice usually does the trick.
Keep the pH toward neutral and your stomach problems will likely fade away.