• 🇳🇿 🇲🇲 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇦🇺 🇦🇶 🇮🇳
    Australian & Asian
    Drug Discussion

    Welcome Guest!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
  • AADD Moderators: andyturbo

GHB/1,4-B/GBL Discussion and use

Status
Not open for further replies.
Wow, that's a really, really good FAQ. I like the way it's written so that I understand what he's saying instead of using scientific terms I don't understand.

Does it similarly apply to GBL?
 
Doses no. As GBL 1ml = between 1.3 - 1.6 grams of GHB converted. And GBL is a solvent. So if you have a bad guts, ulcers, stomach or b owel problems itsa not a gret idea toy have it. Same applied to alcohol, but GBL is a more potent solvent ml per ml. Just always take quater of a glass of OJ or whatever with it and it makes it better. Probably better to use more than what I do. The stuff can strip paint, stains and melt plastics... remmeber this... but it's apparently not so bad for you. Maybe it cleans our insides for the good! (Go Organ Cleaners!) (..delusion)

For more GBL check out Australia's own FAQ written by apollo stickied at the top of the forum.. and c heck through this thread, there may be info you missed. You can search inside a thread.
 
^Completely agreed, i actually stumbled upon that FAQ like yesterday at random.

It is well written and i like how it discredits all the myths and rumors surrounding Gs use, abuse and in rare cases, deaths.

(the Lycaeum one)
 
Theres another one written by a doctor I linked somewhere in this forum, which also shows the GHB myths.
 
I've read apollo's thread, but I still have some questions about 1,4-b ratios. What is the most common ratio for street 1,4-b? The dealer I get mine off wont tell me ratios, just that its "good" and dont start on anything higher than 2.5-3mls depending on size..

This pisses me off to no end! I'm not a moron at my dosing so I always start low, but it amazes me that nearly all the ppl Ive gotten G off either dont even know if its GBL or 1,4-b let alone how its mixed
 
^Agreed, people know nothing about the drugs they are selling in most circumstances - even when it's quite easy to distinguish.

I managed to find some GBL last week, the guy had no idea it was GBL, all he knew is that it was 'juice'. I thought this was pathetic.

I could tell as soon as i saw the bottle of liquid what it was, because of the consistency of the stuff. So i put my nose to the bottle, and i got a smile on my face from the putrid smell of the lactone.

The problem that arises with g is IDIOTS using, how should i put it - such a dose responsive chemical that comes in more than one form/strength with minute variations of effect between them. This causes confusion and problems between batches - and then you have the myths and hear say eg: "my friend told me it's floor cleaner and draino"... Whilst this may be in some way, shape or form the case, it most certainly isn't true for the end result.

I'd love to push such ignorance out of this scene, but ignorance is bliss... and the morons are plentiful ;)
 
Anyone blown out while sitting on a chair? I mixed some GBL and 1,4b last night and i was doing some fucked up bent right over death pose that was stopping me from breathing.. but my body woke me up with full adrenalin. its a thing i cant even do normally.. it was like my spine was about to crack :(
 
I g'd out watching something on the computer, apparently I was face first on the desk with my arms hanging low by my sides. The thing I was watching was on repeat so when I did wake up I didn't realise I had been sleeping and became very confused...

Keep changing my mind about g. Sometime I like it, sometimes I don't.
 
lol... when you become used to blowing out.... it's like second nature, you begin to enjoy it... the lack of ability to control your actions becomes fun - its strange.

How long you been using G? i find it take a little while to acquire the taste... :P
 
Hey, a warning for bottle/vial/container washers....

With GBL I find its normally fine... if u drip it from whatever its in into a glass or whatever and measure it properly when theres only a bit left it seems washing even bigger bottles out wont do shit. But 1,4b.. is a totally different story... even smaller containers that contained 1,4, especially pure stuff can have big overdose amounts left in them because it is so oily. With GBL its like water, u empty that container.. theres nothing there.. just like emptying a bottle of water and shaking it empty and then maybe seeing a drop left in there, thqt drop or three is less than a ml easily.

I know a lot of people wash out when they're out so thought I'd remind you.. with BOTH substances its pretty silly in the end.. but never do it for 1,4b.. and if you don't know the difference between gbl and 1,4b by just basically looking at it, or sucking it up or shooting it out of a plunger, let alone sniffing it or tasting it.. then you shouldn't be taking G anyway imho.
 
Last edited:
have tried G twice..
find it to be a pleasant little chem, if taken in small doses.
first time i tried 1.8mls when out, and generally just enjoyed the feeling of uncoordinated drunkenness without actually being drunk. wore off after a little bit and everything was good.
the second time was rather nauseating.. i was at a friend;s place, and had had a little bit to drink about 8 hrs prior to ingesting 2mls, which was considerably more potent than the last batch i had tried. after the initial high, it just made my head swim, like i was on the gravitron or something. i also felt ill and threw up water for a bit, before laying down and just waiting for it to wear off. had done a touch too many amphetamines in the hours leading up so it probably served me right. i think i'd have appreciated it more on its own.

i found a girl in the gutter around the corner from a prominent melbourne gay bar a few weeks ago. i got two gay boys to help her into my car, she was asleep (in a g-sleep) when i woke her.. all by herself, mind you, so i couldn't exactly leave her. found out she was 17, she was too out of it to tell me her address, even though she could understand what i was saying. started freaking cause i didn't want to leave her, but had friends to tend to. soo i took her around the corner to another bar where i am good friends with the bouncer. the security took her off my hands, found a phone on her and got her mum to come and pick her up. agh. worst part is i got a speeding fine when i was intially trying to get her home.. that shit is dangerous, not to mention she could have been squished cause there was angle parking where i found her. not a friend in sight, surprise surprise. anyway, that's my little good samaritan tale. next time i am just going to ring an ambo i think :/

i also saw a guy once whose friends had left him g'ing off his face in a monaro.. he was moving about so much he set off the alarm. eventually the alarm went dead and the poor guy got out of the car to go and take a piss, undoing his fly as he crossed the road to the nearest tree. felt so sorry for him.. what kinda friends do that shit? i mean people are dumb for taking high doses period but fuck. where has all the chivalry gone?
 
hyroller said:
i also saw a guy once whose friends had left him g'ing off his face in a monaro.. he was moving about so much he set off the alarm. eventually the alarm went dead and the poor guy got out of the car to go and take a piss, undoing his fly as he crossed the road to the nearest tree. felt so sorry for him.. what kinda friends do that shit? i mean people are dumb for taking high doses period but fuck. where has all the chivalry gone?
Click to expand...


well, not to sound like a dick but i've left a mate in his car while he was G'ing out while on speed.. thats when you see all the weird stuff, body throwing around weird forced automatic behaviour. He hadn't eaten all day and had 3mls of pure or near-pure gbl. he was fucking pissing me off. he knew he shouldnt of taken that dose, he knew he blew out sao i left him in his car while i walked around for 3 hours in the cold. he was actually smoking a ciggy when he blew out so i thought he may of dropped in in the back of his car, and the car wull FULL of shit.. rubbish.. papers etc... so it woulda flamed up easy... i was punching him saying where the fuck did yer ciggy go idiot?!?! after he woke up for 2 seconds going "huh? what?" then did a few seizuristic stupid retarded motions and retarded noises i found out it was just dropped out the window.. i didnt call the ambulance cos he is an experienced G user and i know he was only on base (meth/speed) and G.. and our crew have all done these doses before (and higher) without any problems besides a forced sleep... anyway i'd check up on him every 20 minutes.. seeing him from a distance do the same wake up from a blow out motion just looked retarded and i video-phone taped him to show how stupid he looked later on, and all the weird foghorn noises he was making.... if i knew he was in danger i would of called the ambulance, but if any close coppers came and investigated they would of found 500s needles in the car, speed residue baggies, pills, G, K, weed etc... and a car that would be defected if looked at, not to mention being fucked up in the drivers seat if he had had a higher dose and wasn't actually waking up every minute and yelling weird noises, I would of called ambos depending on how his breathing and responses was like. I've seen him and other people OD on G too many times, massive doses (or multiple redoses) and as long as they werent drinking they seemed fine after a nap...
But this is not to say it isn't dangerous... but the drivers seat he was in was supporting him well enough so he could breathe and everything...

My friends sister is a doctor at a decent sized hospital, and if they get a G related over dose the first thing they find out by asking people, and/or checking blood etc is if they are on other downers.. if not theyre simply frowned upon for taking too much and taking up a bed, and left there only attended by a pulse monitor on the thumb, and a few sticky pads hooked upto the machine.


I think people who are uninformed and who blow out in public and don't know their purity of the G (or type!) shouldn't use the drug, or anyone who drinks alcohol on it, but people who know their known doses, purity etc.. and want to G sleep.. lie on your side at home, and it's not really any worse or different than taking stilnox or a bunch of benzos to force u to sleep, or getting really drunk and crashing out. Too much stigma around the drug cos of idiots and young kids using it with other shit, or just keep re-dosing 1,4b since it takes so long to kick in properly, or stupid re-doses because of thinking you can handle or want more, or memory loss.
 
Last edited:
Splatt said:
Hey, a warning for bottle/vial/container washers....

With GBL I find its normally fine... if u drip it from whatever its in into a glass or whatever and measure it properly when theres only a bit left it seems washing even bigger bottles out wont do shit. But 1,4b.. is a totally different story... even smaller containers that contained 1,4, especially pure stuff can have big overdose amounts left in them because it is so oily. With GBL its like water, u empty that container.. theres nothing there.. just like emptying a bottle of water and shaking it empty and then maybe seeing a drop left in there, thqt drop or three is less than a ml easily.

I know a lot of people wash out when they're out so thought I'd remind you.. with BOTH substances its pretty silly in the end.. but never do it for 1,4b.. and if you don't know the difference between gbl and 1,4b by just basically looking at it, or sucking it up or shooting it out of a plunger, let alone sniffing it or tasting it.. then you shouldn't be taking G anyway imho.
Click to expand...


LOL... Dude, that is the worst piece of advice you have ever given. Those little vials are only 20ml, it'd be rare to rinse more than a ml from it (1,4-b)...

I love leaving a big 1,4 bottle upside down to drain out.. and getting like 10-15ml out of it.. takes a little while, but the other day we salvaged like 40ml just from big bottles that were lying around...
 
How's it bad advice? 1,4 is way too oily to wash out.. so maybe not the standard 20ml vials, but say a 50ml or 100ml vial would be silly to wash 1,4b out of.. it STICKS to everything. With GBL only the evil smell sticks around when u pour the remainder into something, not leaves goops of fat oil slinging to the sides and bottom likle 1,4B
 
sit it upside down for 30 mins.. you'll get everything in there out into a measureable dose cup.. thats what i do..

out of like a litre you're lucky to to get 10ml out
 
Splatt said:
well, not to sound like a dick but i've left a mate in his car while he was G'ing out while on speed.. thats when you see all the weird stuff, body throwing around weird forced automatic behaviour. He hadn't eaten all day and had 3mls of pure or near-pure gbl. he was fucking pissing me off. he knew he shouldnt of taken that dose, he knew he blew out sao i left him in his car while i walked around for 3 hours in the cold. he was actually smoking a ciggy when he blew out so i thought he may of dropped in in the back of his car, and the car wull FULL of shit.. rubbish.. papers etc... so it woulda flamed up easy... i was punching him saying where the fuck did yer ciggy go idiot?!?! after he woke up for 2 seconds going "huh? what?" then did a few seizuristic stupid retarded motions and retarded noises i found out it was just dropped out the window.. i didnt call the ambulance cos he is an experienced G user and i know he was only on base (meth/speed) and G.. and our crew have all done these doses before (and higher) without any problems besides a forced sleep... anyway i'd check up on him every 20 minutes.. seeing him from a distance do the same wake up from a blow out motion just looked retarded and i video-phone taped him to show how stupid he looked later on, and all the weird foghorn noises he was making.... if i knew he was in danger i would of called the ambulance, but if any close coppers came and investigated they would of found 500s needles in the car, speed residue baggies, pills, G, K, weed etc... and a car that would be defected if looked at, not to mention being fucked up in the drivers seat if he had had a higher dose and wasn't actually waking up every minute and yelling weird noises, I would of called ambos depending on how his breathing and responses was like. I've seen him and other people OD on G too many times, massive doses (or multiple redoses) and as long as they werent drinking they seemed fine after a nap...
But this is not to say it isn't dangerous... but the drivers seat he was in was supporting him well enough so he could breathe and everything...
Click to expand...

well, every situation is different. it was broad daylight when i saw this guy (7am or so) and nobody came over in the half hour i was there. the cops could have pulled up at any time, or who knows, maybe they did after i left. i know it is selfish of these people to deliberately fuck themselves up and potentially saboage their friends' nights, but yeah. in that case, if he had ingested something else that could royally have fucked him up, anything could have happened.
 
I wish G never became mainstream. But it has this thing where you love it so much, you just want to give someone a free charge to show them why you're taking the evil date rape death drug... and 80%+ people end up loving it, half of those would probably become often users.
 
thinkpink said:
What is your dosage (if you don't mind me asking) and is there any reason why first thing in the morning? I imagine the afterglow would last awhile after.

But the other question - does GBL lose potency over time?
Click to expand...

3ml+ of 1,4b or 2.5-2.8ml of GBL, with half or less redoses after an hour.. after that I dont really get high off it until I have a good sleep and empty my bowels and stomach is empty. G tolerance isn't that bad, its just like pill tolerance.. You can go crazy on pills for a while.. double dropping etc.... wait 3 months... drop a standard pill and just want MORE cos medium (under clinic therapy dosages - 125mg) is just a tease.... it is kind of like that with G but tolernce is gone in 24 hours.. in fact I find G more enjoyable when you're addicted to it.. kind of like cigarette smokers. lol... wake up groggy, then have a charge before breakfast.
 
They are MY doses.. I am heavy and tall and alcohol and other downers I require a lot more of. I gave my girlfriend 1ml of GBL and she felt very horny and very rushy and slept after a couple hours of sex.... so remember doses are diff for everyone she is bout 44-47kg at an estimate, and 153cm. I'd never want her to have 2ml. or even 1.5. A double smirnoff hammers her. Don't think I'll ever introduce her to the world of pills or anything like that...

Edited Lounge/SLR type stuff lol
 
Last edited:
I've been fully converted to G and am disappointed I didn't do it sooner. I promised my brother that I would never do it but fortunately that promise has been well and truly broken and I now see that with responsible use it's very hard to blowout or OD. It's sooooo much fun!!!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top