GHB/1,4-B/GBL Discussion and use

[lil angel15]

Lets keep it on topic

 

[bustabraincell]

well some, (likemysef) feel that I am having a bad run at the moment, from the outside tho, I can see that I am my worst enemy.Since customs cut off my supply, of GBL, I started to use GVL, well I woke this morning to feel my bed shaking, and my girl was on the end of it having convulsions, mostly unconscious, and unresponsive to stimuli, and a right fkn mess. I managed to get her to the toilet, past her teenage daughters, and asked them to call the ambos, while i tried to stabilise her, and keep her from stopping breathing etc. Well the ambos arrived, I showed them the bottle of stuff that it came from, which they didnt really want to know about, were more interested in treating her with narcan, she had also been taking some dali lida(dih uahna ) whigh the ambos just dismissed as herbal crap. Anyhow, it was horrid day, her girls and mum freakin right out, seeing their mum, and daughter in hospital with tubes , breathing assistance etc, and her new boyfriend trying to explain that hes not really a bad person....but had to bolt away quickly to drive the 150 km to make his bail report....anyway, I drove back again, and she is now out of hospital(by her own volition). The wierd thing, is that, she had her last dose around 1 am, but this all occurred round ten thirty am. We used to call this stuff slow-j, but the time this took to occur was round 8-9 hrs....so its bin an exciting(not in a good way) week, and me and my girl are trying to find some good clean , safe fun like rock climbing, or base jumping, or street luge, something, nice and safe....

 

[juice_soldier]

It's on topic...

actually did a fair bit of G over the course of the day, the residual effect you feel at the end of the day is a withdrawal symptom.. usually happens after you blow out. - an hour or so later.. you're craving more and you're all out of g - suddenly you feel shit.


Thats a common one. Sleep it off and you shall be fine

 

[Chesai]

Hi all. I'm Bustabraincells girlfriend.... and yeh, that was me that did that. (In reference to his last post)

I have no idea why it took so long to mess me up. We went to bed around 4am, last dose was 3ml at approx 2.30am and at around 10.30am I apparently had overdosed?! (baring in mind this is GVL not GBL)

Yes I woke up in hospital. I vaguely recall an ambo guy looking at me, then nothing at all til I woke in hospital with my mother and daughter by my bed. Very shitful experience.

I'm not sure why it took that long for something fucked up to happen? I'd had 3ml x 3 times from 6pm to 2.30am..... went to bed feeling fine, albeit quite tired. Had approx 6 glasses of wine from 6pm til 4 am.. may have been less but will err on the more side.

That other Dali Lida daidaihua I don't think made a diff since I'd taken it at 8am that morning - it's a diet pill same ingredients as Meridia.. Took some asprin about 10am, some panadeine during the day, 4 tablets, last two about 1am...... all of which doesn't point to an 8 hour lag on this incident.

Am still swollen up, possibly from the drip? A sedative apparently....don't know, woke up with two tubes in my throat and two drips plus a spare shunt for whatever......

Something I'm intensely aware of now........ this can take a mad amount of time to mess you up.

My lesson is done. I dunno if I'm allergic now or what the hell , but given the amount I had, and the time span. I'm not trying it again. Bad bad bad for me (YMMV).. nothing worse than waking up in hospital after an OD and seeing your mother! Yikes.

Upward and onward.... Or as Buzz Lightyear would say "To infinity and Beyond!"
Cheers.
Chesai

well some, (likemysef) feel that I am having a bad run at the moment, from the outside tho, I can see that I am my worst enemy.Since customs cut off my supply, of GBL, I started to use GVL, well I woke this morning to feel my bed shaking, and my girl was on the end of it having convulsions, mostly unconscious, and unresponsive to stimuli, and a right fkn mess. I managed to get her to the toilet, past her teenage daughters, and asked them to call the ambos, while i tried to stabilise her, and keep her from stopping breathing etc. Well the ambos arrived, I showed them the bottle of stuff that it came from, which they didnt really want to know about, were more interested in treating her with narcan, she had also been taking some dali lida(dih uahna ) whigh the ambos just dismissed as herbal crap. Anyhow, it was horrid day, her girls and mum freakin right out, seeing their mum, and daughter in hospital with tubes , breathing assistance etc, and her new boyfriend trying to explain that hes not really a bad person....but had to bolt away quickly to drive the 150 km to make his bail report....anyway, I drove back again, and she is now out of hospital(by her own volition). The wierd thing, is that, she had her last dose around 1 am, but this all occurred round ten thirty am. We used to call this stuff slow-j, but the time this took to occur was round 8-9 hrs....so its bin an exciting(not in a good way) week, and me and my girl are trying to find some good clean , safe fun like rock climbing, or base jumping, or street luge, something, nice and safe....

 

[MR Candyslut]

can i just ask, is GVL considered fairly experimental at this stage? Or is a fairly standard analog?

just interested is all.

 

[bustabraincell]

it is, or until recently been marketed as a sleep aid roll on. The suppliers at present seem to be having marketing difficulties by using thr letters GH in the product name

 

[MR Candyslut]

oh right!! that is that roll on shit that i have heard about!

My friend was telling me about this. In my limited experience, GBL is risky enough in terms of dosage and purity. It is pretty scary to think there are numerous analogs around with different purities.

I hope your partner is ok.

 

[Chesai]

Well, technically, it has 800mg per ml so in theory (and I use that term lightly) it's actually a specific dosage..... the rest is preservatives. That said.. you read what happened to me. So dosage and purity shouldn't *cough* be a problem in so much as you know *cough* what's in it. That said........ it's just a label on a bottle!
Your Milage May Vary..... don't take my word for anything, I'm just letting you know what happened to me, and that said, I don't remember much. Bustabraincell can tell you more - he saw it.

But, if I can tell you anything, it's that your body reacts differently all the time... Just be aware of it. I'm fine now..... older and ever so slightly wiser. :D
Cheers,
Chesai

oh right!! that is that roll on shit that i have heard about!

My friend was telling me about this. In my limited experience, GBL is risky enough in terms of dosage and purity. It is pretty scary to think there are numerous analogs around with different purities.

I hope your partner is ok.

 

[bustabraincell]

i have used this quite a bit,.... at one stage I was doing 50 ml a day,,,, thats a bottle every 24 hours....buying from an on line store... every 3-4 hours would have round 4.5 mil, and found it hard to stop using...like if my package didnt show up in the mail, i would become concerned....fortunately the company was generally very speedy on delivery. Purity seemed to be consistant throughout the months I was using itand i was like a very slow gbl buzz, but much laster longing, and would plateau rather than peak, however, the biggest danger was in thinking it not working and dosing up again, and then finding yrself headbutting the keyboard, or floor. Busted a danm good pair of sunnies like that....trying to kick it, welll, would have a cupple of mil in the morning, but the day just wasnt the same, until I topped up again. Do not drive on it, probly worse than gbl, as you will fall asleep and have no idea that you have....and because it hangs in so long, you may have forgotten yo had it until you see the guideposts or bridge right in front of you. I have also combined GVL and GBL, this is not for the feint hearted, it like GBL with legs as long as the murray river......fk you up for hours.....not recommennded....helll with my latest track record, finding it difficult to recommend any usage at the moment.... do as I say , not as I do...

 

[juice_soldier]

Yeww. that stuff was foul. i had some of that shit.... just made me vomit it tasted so acrid. i couldn't stand it.. a few friends didnt mind it, i wouldnt bother... we checked up the ingredients of the crap, none seemed harmful in the doses you'd be using to get high.. but yuk.. it was disgusting either way

 

[bustabraincell]

yea, tastes like shit, but the best stuff usually does, but hell it does it for me...... shame it all seems to be running out on me....

 

[bustabraincell]

checked out the preservatives, they all pretty safeish,(well dont give rats cancer anyway.....)

 

[Splatt]

Is there proof GVL actually converts top much GHB? Isnt it GVB?.. most people said it was nowhere near as good as GHB, GBL or 1,4b and is mainly a sedative with no euphoria or real recreational value

 

[bustabraincell]

I havent seen any proof that it does convert to ghb, but I enjoy the rec effects, and so do some friends who usually use gbl. So in short, I would have to say that it does have recreational value...

 

[Chesai]

Is there proof GVL actually converts top much GHB? Isnt it GVB?.. most people said it was nowhere near as good as GHB, GBL or 1,4b and is mainly a sedative with no euphoria or real recreational value

I pinched this off http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs10/10331/index.htm

Both GBL and BD metabolize into GHB upon ingestion. GBL is the most common precursor used in the production of GHB. GVL is abused in place of GHB because it metabolizes into GHV, which produces physiological effects similar to GHB.
Cheers,
Chesai

 

[xtcxtc]

since then i religiously note time & dose whenever i take G --- on the ocassion above i would have been trying to get to sleep for some hours & almost certainly lost track of how many doses i had taken.

from http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=4844460&postcount=116

bustabraincell >>

i have used this quite a bit,.... at one stage I was doing 50 ml a day,,,, thats a bottle every 24 hours

if it converts at 800mg / ml then same is equivalent to 40g / day.

long ago a report of 8 patients hospitalised appeared claiming each was taking 48g / day ( very very coincidental all about same dosage ) -- all were in for some time & one died.

when i am doing it i try to limit to one dose every 4 hours & never more than 36g in a day ( this is powdered GHB ).

 

[hoptis]

I pinched this off another site, don't know if I'm supposed to add the name of the site?

That'd be good, as long as the site doesn't contain sources/links to sources should be fine.

 

[Chesai]

^^^no probs, have added it to original post.

 

[JohnnyG]

GVL? That's the first time I have ever heard of the stuff.. I think i may have been sold that recently in place of what was apparently pure GHB it tasted sorta like GBL it was almost clear liquid (just a tiny bit yellow) it tasted a lot saltier than GBL but still tasted plastic-ish .. Anyways the stuff did bugger all to me.. i actually took about 10mls in 2.5 hours and i had a shot of diluted GBL before taking the bullshit that i had been sold.. The 3mls of GBL that i took had me absolutely trolleyed haha ^__^.. I know it was very very silly of me to have had so much of the other stuff in such a small amount of time just after having GBL not knowing what it actually was.. I had i think it was 4.5mls in one go and i only got a tiny rush similar to that feeling you get in the first 5 minutes of taking good G.. it barely lasted 10 minutes though and i only got a bit wonky and then it just went away and i ended up with a terrible headache. Never again will i get a flamboyant homosexual to buy me G...

Anyways this has been a good lesson for me. I am never going to buy G through random people i don't fully trust.. Infact i'm going to wait until my usual guy is back on before i buy G again.

Stay safe.

 

[Splatt]

Don't know why people would bother selling fake G unless it was in a largish amount and you didn't know them. I mean if someone was stinging for a few doses, yay, a few bucks in their pocket..