So I recently acquired a giant stash of these Morphine Sulfate SR 30mg pills, little purple pills with a nasty wax coating on them. Maker is Mallinckrodt if it matters(Which from reading what info I've been able to find on this stuff, it does matter)
Here's a drugs.com link to the exact pills: http://www.drugs.com/imprints/30-m-8691.html
I've taken anti-depressants(who hasn't?) and speed for my ADD(adderall, dexedrine, vynvanse) and the occasional random painkiller pill from a parent/friend when I was sick, but I don't really that much experience with opiates at all. Honestly it's a bit surprising, I'm thinking this is one of the most commonly prescribed drugs around, but there's surprisingly little info out there on it. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.
So here's what happened. If you don't feel like reading a wall of text, you can skip down to the bottom of the post.
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I took one orally. Didn't feel much, until about an hour later when I got really bad nausea/abdominal pain. Went and laid down, out like a light for 4 hours, wake up, feel fine. Not really high or anything, but decent. Within a few hours I felt totally normal(Much to my disappointment)
Next day, I went and bought some 1cc 28gauge syringes, cotton balls, and tried each and every "listed" method out there....
1st attempt - Cold water
Wiped the coating, crushed, put into a tablespoon, mixed with 3ml water.
Few minutes later, tossed in a normal sized cotton ball into the mix, let it sit for about 30mins. It seemed like the cotton did a good job, because by then there was very little liquid left.
Came back, pulled the needle off one of the syringes, placed the opening just into the cotton ball enough for the plastic to barely touch the cotton, pulled back. Nothing but a few bubbles. Tried pushing it in deeper, different sides of it, got nothing but a tiny, thick droplet every time.
Tossed the syringe, grabbed a new one, stuck the needle just in, pulled back. Got just a little more this time, but barely more than a drop or two. Again tried it in varying spots at different depths, nothing.
Gave up. Fail.
2nd attempt - Hot water
Cleaned wax off pill thoroughly and crushed, put 1ml water into my tablespoon, set it over a candle to burn the water until it was "just beginning to boil"
Not sure exactly what that means, thought when I started to hear it bubbling that it would be ready in a few seconds.... and in a few seconds, the entire mix was boiling.
Pulled the spoon away, added .5ml water along with the powder to the mix, stirred a little, then again placed it over the candle. Within seconds the entire thing was bubbling, pulled it away, nothing left in the spoon but crispy, waxy residue.
Cleaned up, fail #2. Decided to go back to the cold water for the final attempt.
3rd attempt - Cold water
Same as the 1st attempt, except this time, I used half of a cotton swab instead of a whole one, packed it into a nice little circle.
Again tried to place the syringe above the cotton, no luck. Just into it, nothing. Spent 15 minutes trying needleless/needle syringe drawing, got nothing but a few bubbles.
Said "screw this", got a new cotton ball, tore off another ball and packed it into the syringe. Poured the mixture into the barrel and shot it through the cotton, into another syringe. Repeated this about 3 times.
The entire time, the plunger was very very difficult to depress, and the liquid that came out was a mix of thin liquid and very thick, bubbley liquid. Final solution was very "thick" and much less than I had anticipation from it.
Knew it was a fail, but didn't feel like just tossing it out after all that work. Mixed it with 3cc of water just to thin it out a bit. Used a makeshift edema kit, stuck a tube a few inches up, plugged away the mixture. No trouble there except for the whole tube-deep-in-my-ass thing.
Sat down, waited for my high. I guess it worked a little, because I did feel SOMETHING... but it definitely didn't give the results I was expecting, which I'm assuming was due to my bad filtration/low amount. Certainly not worth all the work put into it, but it was way more than I got from the oral pill, so I was happy.
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UPDATE: I tried the method Macbrown posted below just this morning, so this is my 4th attempt
Took a pill, cleaned the wax off, popped it into clean sheets of paper and pounded away with a hammer / razor until it was mostly powder. Even after about 20 minutes of grinding I still was left with a few small "chunks" on the edges which were so numerous it would have been painstaking to pull them each aside and razor them down, but so small that they would just slip off to the side of the razor. It was still about 95% powder 5% of those little chunks.
Put the powder in a small bowl, added 10mL of warm water. Wasn't sure what was right here, so I waited until the water was at the point where i could have it flow down my hand with only a mild tingling, not painful.
Took a straw and stirred for about 15mins, mashing it up and swirling it around. It produced a cloudy white liquid, some tiny chunks of the pill were visible and floating around, but other than that, it looked pretty good.
Drew it up into a 50ml needleless syringe, attached to edema kit "applicator" to fit the syringe. Pushed that applicator in all the way into my ass(looked roughly 3 inches or so deep) until I could feel almost like an air pocket. When it hit that point, I could literally "feel" it and know that it was deep enough. Hard to explain but yeah.
Got on my hands and knees with butt raised into the air, then depressed the plunger slowly, ended up shooting the entire mixture in in about 60seconds or so. Felt lukewarm, but not unpleasant in any way, maybe even a little nice toward the end.
Laid there in that rather uncomfortable position for about 30 minutes watching TV while the drug "settled"
After that, felt much MUCH more of an effective than I did with any of my other attempts. Didn't get the light headed "nodding" euphoria, but it left me feeling quite upbeat, relaxed. It didn't seem like I got euphoria from it, but it was a "really really nice warm feeling" is the best way to describe it.
Not sure how long it lasted since I was just out shopping or watching a movie. Did this all about 5 hours ago, think I'm on the down end of it, can still feel it, but it's not nearly as intense as it was that first couple of hours.
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So, what do you guys think? Any possible ways I could improve this experience? Again remember, this is someone with little opiate tolerance, using only readily available gear
Stuff used: 1 30mg SR MS-Contin (mallinckrodt), Paper towels to wipe the wax, small metal cup to mix the stuff, razor blade + hammer to crush, straw to mix it, and 60ml needleless syringe and a tube that came with an edema kit that has 3-4 inch "applicator" on it)
Any tips/advice/compliments/criticisms? Or is this a good, reliable way to plug this stuff? I'm still new here, but really looking forward to improving and eventually moving on to IV'ing this stuff.
Here's a drugs.com link to the exact pills: http://www.drugs.com/imprints/30-m-8691.html
I've taken anti-depressants(who hasn't?) and speed for my ADD(adderall, dexedrine, vynvanse) and the occasional random painkiller pill from a parent/friend when I was sick, but I don't really that much experience with opiates at all. Honestly it's a bit surprising, I'm thinking this is one of the most commonly prescribed drugs around, but there's surprisingly little info out there on it. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough.
So here's what happened. If you don't feel like reading a wall of text, you can skip down to the bottom of the post.
-
I took one orally. Didn't feel much, until about an hour later when I got really bad nausea/abdominal pain. Went and laid down, out like a light for 4 hours, wake up, feel fine. Not really high or anything, but decent. Within a few hours I felt totally normal(Much to my disappointment)
Next day, I went and bought some 1cc 28gauge syringes, cotton balls, and tried each and every "listed" method out there....
1st attempt - Cold water
Wiped the coating, crushed, put into a tablespoon, mixed with 3ml water.
Few minutes later, tossed in a normal sized cotton ball into the mix, let it sit for about 30mins. It seemed like the cotton did a good job, because by then there was very little liquid left.
Came back, pulled the needle off one of the syringes, placed the opening just into the cotton ball enough for the plastic to barely touch the cotton, pulled back. Nothing but a few bubbles. Tried pushing it in deeper, different sides of it, got nothing but a tiny, thick droplet every time.
Tossed the syringe, grabbed a new one, stuck the needle just in, pulled back. Got just a little more this time, but barely more than a drop or two. Again tried it in varying spots at different depths, nothing.
Gave up. Fail.
2nd attempt - Hot water
Cleaned wax off pill thoroughly and crushed, put 1ml water into my tablespoon, set it over a candle to burn the water until it was "just beginning to boil"
Not sure exactly what that means, thought when I started to hear it bubbling that it would be ready in a few seconds.... and in a few seconds, the entire mix was boiling.
Pulled the spoon away, added .5ml water along with the powder to the mix, stirred a little, then again placed it over the candle. Within seconds the entire thing was bubbling, pulled it away, nothing left in the spoon but crispy, waxy residue.
Cleaned up, fail #2. Decided to go back to the cold water for the final attempt.
3rd attempt - Cold water
Same as the 1st attempt, except this time, I used half of a cotton swab instead of a whole one, packed it into a nice little circle.
Again tried to place the syringe above the cotton, no luck. Just into it, nothing. Spent 15 minutes trying needleless/needle syringe drawing, got nothing but a few bubbles.
Said "screw this", got a new cotton ball, tore off another ball and packed it into the syringe. Poured the mixture into the barrel and shot it through the cotton, into another syringe. Repeated this about 3 times.
The entire time, the plunger was very very difficult to depress, and the liquid that came out was a mix of thin liquid and very thick, bubbley liquid. Final solution was very "thick" and much less than I had anticipation from it.
Knew it was a fail, but didn't feel like just tossing it out after all that work. Mixed it with 3cc of water just to thin it out a bit. Used a makeshift edema kit, stuck a tube a few inches up, plugged away the mixture. No trouble there except for the whole tube-deep-in-my-ass thing.
Sat down, waited for my high. I guess it worked a little, because I did feel SOMETHING... but it definitely didn't give the results I was expecting, which I'm assuming was due to my bad filtration/low amount. Certainly not worth all the work put into it, but it was way more than I got from the oral pill, so I was happy.
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UPDATE: I tried the method Macbrown posted below just this morning, so this is my 4th attempt
Took a pill, cleaned the wax off, popped it into clean sheets of paper and pounded away with a hammer / razor until it was mostly powder. Even after about 20 minutes of grinding I still was left with a few small "chunks" on the edges which were so numerous it would have been painstaking to pull them each aside and razor them down, but so small that they would just slip off to the side of the razor. It was still about 95% powder 5% of those little chunks.
Put the powder in a small bowl, added 10mL of warm water. Wasn't sure what was right here, so I waited until the water was at the point where i could have it flow down my hand with only a mild tingling, not painful.
Took a straw and stirred for about 15mins, mashing it up and swirling it around. It produced a cloudy white liquid, some tiny chunks of the pill were visible and floating around, but other than that, it looked pretty good.
Drew it up into a 50ml needleless syringe, attached to edema kit "applicator" to fit the syringe. Pushed that applicator in all the way into my ass(looked roughly 3 inches or so deep) until I could feel almost like an air pocket. When it hit that point, I could literally "feel" it and know that it was deep enough. Hard to explain but yeah.
Got on my hands and knees with butt raised into the air, then depressed the plunger slowly, ended up shooting the entire mixture in in about 60seconds or so. Felt lukewarm, but not unpleasant in any way, maybe even a little nice toward the end.
Laid there in that rather uncomfortable position for about 30 minutes watching TV while the drug "settled"
After that, felt much MUCH more of an effective than I did with any of my other attempts. Didn't get the light headed "nodding" euphoria, but it left me feeling quite upbeat, relaxed. It didn't seem like I got euphoria from it, but it was a "really really nice warm feeling" is the best way to describe it.
Not sure how long it lasted since I was just out shopping or watching a movie. Did this all about 5 hours ago, think I'm on the down end of it, can still feel it, but it's not nearly as intense as it was that first couple of hours.
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So, what do you guys think? Any possible ways I could improve this experience? Again remember, this is someone with little opiate tolerance, using only readily available gear
Stuff used: 1 30mg SR MS-Contin (mallinckrodt), Paper towels to wipe the wax, small metal cup to mix the stuff, razor blade + hammer to crush, straw to mix it, and 60ml needleless syringe and a tube that came with an edema kit that has 3-4 inch "applicator" on it)
Any tips/advice/compliments/criticisms? Or is this a good, reliable way to plug this stuff? I'm still new here, but really looking forward to improving and eventually moving on to IV'ing this stuff.
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