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Getting over a bad trip

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goomba

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The other night I had my first really horrifying and confusing trip. I know it was all about the set and setting. All my other experiences have been very positive.

But now I find myself a bit wary of even thinking about tripping again.

If you've had a really bad trip, how long and how did you go about "getting over it" and not worrying about the same thing happen again?
 
Was it a new substance or something you've tried before ?
Was anything stressing or worrying you mentally before the trip ?
Give it some time and try a new setting..
 
Look back on it as a learning experience.

What caused it to be horrifying and bad? What triggered it?

If it was just a bad setting, that is one thing, but when its triggered by mindset, you can often learn a thing or two about yourself and find ways to resolve something in your life....

More information would help, write up a trip report for us that goes into it as much as you can manage.

Writting about it will probably help in itself, it will help you sort out everything you just went through.... Good and bad trips can shake a person up, sifting through it all in the end has helped me sort my head out....
 
First, do fun things. Go out and have an ice cream. Go to the park and feed the ducks. Stuff like that.

Then prepare mentally, meditate, fill your mind with happy things. Find yourself a good set & setting.

Then get back on that horse and eat a shitload of acid, and have a good trip.
 
goomba said:
If you've had a really bad trip, how long and how did you go about "getting over it" and not worrying about the same thing happen again?
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It varies. I still have times where I get those thoughts and have to make a point of letting go.

I agree with dread. Take a break from tripping for a couple or a few weeks and do fun things, make yourself happy, get a good setting and then jump back in.
 
^^ If he just had a bad trip i don't know if he should eat a "shitload" for his next trip....

I think he should give it another shot if he is feeling up to it in time, but before that its good to know what triggered it in the first place. Any number of things involving set and setting can trigger a bad trip... Unconcious problems/repressed shit comming to the surface, getting sketched out by authority figures, being overwhelmed by it all, loud music, asshole people, too many lights, strange body sensations, thought loops, thinking your insane, the list goes on forever.... Once you identify the cause you can work around it, if its part of where you tripped that caused it, just look for a better setting next time... If its something involving mindset, that can be worked out but its better if we know what type of thing triggered it.

As far as a psych goes that would help you get back into it without much worry of a bad trip goes, i reccomend 2c-b, 2c-i is nice if your the type who is fond of the visual over the mental aspect of hallucinogens.... All my experiences with 2c-b tell me that i could probably give it to a pretty nervous person and they would be able to handle it.... I have tripped on up to about 20mg around unknowing family who would care if they knew i was tripping...
 
It was a lot to do with my mindset and the setting... it was acid, which I've used before. It was my first time without my boyfriend being around, first time in a big party/music festival setting, and it was at night. And I tripped after a rough week.

I wrote a very long trip report, and it helped sort things out. I'm feeling a lot better, but if I think too much on it I become kind of panicky.

I think once I feel more at peace with it, I'm going to trip again, and have my boyfriend there as a sitter.
 
Next time make the trip in a place where your comfortable and familiar with along with someone close to you like your boyfriend.

It takes a bit of experience with acid before you can worry less about the setting, but mindset is always important....

Just try to put yourself in better spirits for the time being and trip when you feel more ready...

Personally though i have never been a fan of sitters, i like people on the same level as me, they just seem to "get it".... My favorite trip sitter is a couple mg of klonopin or xanax.... That will calm you down or knock you out for the rest of it should anything bad happen...

I always try to bring a bit of benzos to festivals if i come across anyone who is kind of losing it and would rather sleep it off than try and work through a difficult trip.... A festival is a place to go out of your mind, but there are always people who eat a bit too much and can't handle it...
 
uniter said:
Indeed taking a high dose is not a good idea when you're shaky with tripping. What I meant by jump back in was actually walk in from the shore. ;)
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it was meant more for dread....

you just posted between the time of my reading his response and actually posting...
 
B9 said:
Dip in a toe & run squealing from the ocean "oooh it's cold" then stand shivering on the shore eying the analagous sea suspiciously - or something like that anyway.
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It never did that for me. If anything it let's one get more acquainted with progressively deeper levels of the psychedelic state. Throwing oneself in and then subsequently freaking out is going to deter them away from tripping far more than a low-level trip.

I certainly wouldn't advise someone who is new to tripping or isn't comfortable with tripping to eat a 10 strip.

dread said:
When the set & setting is right, the dose doesn't matter...
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Indeed, but part of "Set" is being ready for such an experience. Progressively increasing the dosages gets one acquainted with the state gives them a better set to take a high dose with later on.
 
B9 said:
You'll know as, when & if you want to trip again - if you're doubtful then maybe your mindset isn't right ?
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I definitely agree. I just feel like, even when I know I'm in a good mood, in a good place, I'll still have just a bit of anxiety. I might write about my numerous positive experiences and think about those, instead of dwell on this one negative.
 
dread said:
First, do fun things. Go out and have an ice cream. Go to the park and feed the ducks. Stuff like that.

Then prepare mentally, meditate, fill your mind with happy things. Find yourself a good set & setting.

Then get back on that horse and eat a shitload of acid, and have a good trip.
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DO NOT EAT A SHIT LOAD OF ACID!!! I hope thats a joke Dread???

I have had three terror trips that I truely believe was a glimpse into hell or a psychedelic hell atleast as nothing on earth could inflict that much terror or panic!!! Time is what it takes that and starting out small and working your way back up again with some benzos on hand even if not for taking just knowing you have them helps alot!!!

I would suggest laying off psychedelics for a few months atleast and then getting something pure and working it up with known dosages I would say 2C-B would be good if you have access as it will be unlikely to re experience a really bad trip on it!!!

Next before you trip again meditate, prepare make sure your ready to let go and flow with the trip and remember its only a low dose it will not put you back into that same space again so just relax and soon you will find after low dose tripping enough you can push it up higher just go slow and eventually you'll hopefully be back to dropping 300ug of LSD and loving it!!!
 
Also don't rely on people as your ground control use them as tripsitters perhaps but relying on certain people is not ideal at all. I use a pedent around my neck as my ground control, sounds wierd but I use it as a grounding point if things get crazy I grab ahold of it and meditate as best I can not trying to "think happy thoughts" or any of the BS but instead coming to terms with my state and reminding myself it will end eventually but you might as well learn what you can while your here!!!

If that fails and you panic there is nothing wrong with killing the trip with some benzos usually 2-3mg Alprolazam works for a complete kill of really far out there trips. 1mg will kill lower doses while only reducing the intensity of higher doses!!!

Also I keep some Ativan in IM solution so in case i'm too sick to get anything down or I can't find my mouth I can kill the trip within minutes!!!
 
dread said:
When the set & setting is right, the dose doesn't matter...
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as uniter said, your mindset kind of has to be in a good place for the dose....

You should at least feel comfortable with the drugs your taking and the amounts, a person who just came out of their first bad trip probably shouldn't eat a whole lot the next time they do it.

With an ideal mindset and an indeal setting, i can agree with you....

The mindset of the OP is not "ideal" at the moment for a high dose acid trip, thats my opinion anyways....
 
Yeah, I definitely don't plan on a high dose trip anytime soon. I want to lay off it for a while, then ease my way back in.
 
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