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Getting off of opiates, with no withdrawals, and no Suboxone or methadone - using ONLY Vitamin C - NOT A JOKE! READ THIS!

If someone is going to try this, it would be better to use the neutral (non-acidic) form of vitamin C aka "Sodium ascorbate".
Other otc supps like creatine, agmatine and theanine (pro-GABA) will also help.

Novel Targets for Fast Antidepressant Responses: Possible Role of Endogenous Neuromodulators
Ketamine...is the prototype for novel glutamate-based antidepressants that has been shown to cause a rapid and sustained antidepressant effect. Among these molecules, agmatine and creatine stand out as those with more published evidence of similarities with ketamine, but guanosine and ascorbic acid have also provided promising results. The possibility that these neuromodulators and ketamine have common neurobiological mechanisms...is presented and discussed.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7219953/

Vitamin C, Pain and Opioid Use Disorder
This paper provides a review of the literature and a theoretical perspective on the potential roles of ascorbic acid in the treatment of pain and opioid use disorder
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As animal studies, clinical trials, and case reports have also demonstrated, vitamin C interrupts the neurochemistry of opioid tolerance and dependency and mitigates the horrific symptoms of opioid withdrawal.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7572147/

Ascorbic Acid Inhibits Development of Tolerance and Dependence to Opiates in Mice: Possible Glutamatergic or Dopaminergic Modulation
The present study was undertaken to study the effect of ascorbic acid on the development of tolerance and dependence to opiate and its mechanism of action.
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In conclusion, it is hypothesized that inhibition of development of tolerance and dependence to morphine by ascorbic acid appears to have two components, namely dopaminergic and glutamatergic.
https://www.researchgate.net/public...ible_Glutamatergic_or_Dopaminergic_Modulation

Ascorbic acid for management of oral surgery pain not responding to conventional medication: case report
Although there is no consensus as to the analgesic mechanism by which L-ascorbic acid could be acting, there are at least three potential theories accordingly with Carr et al. [7]: (a) action as a potent antioxidant; (b) role as a cofactor for the synthesis of catecholamine neurotransmitters; and (c) potential role of L-ascorbic acid in the synthesis of amidated opioid peptides.
https://www.jomos.org/articles/mbcb/full_html/2020/03/mbcb200031/mbcb200031.html

Chronic treatment with ascorbic acid inhibits the morphine withdrawal response in guinea-pigs
The effects of ascorbic acid (AA) were investigated on the morphine withdrawal response of guinea-pigs, a species which shares with man the inability to synthesize AA.
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It is concluded that chronic but not acute administration of AA inhibits opiate withdrawal.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/030439409290127S

Ascorbic Acid Effect on Morphine Withdrawal Symptoms in Rats
It seems that ascorbic acid administration can improve the symptoms of opiate withdrawal syndrome.
https://publish.kne-publishing.com/index.php/JCR/article/view/7154
 
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If someone is going to try this, it would be better to use the neutral (non-acidic) form of vitamin C aka "Sodium ascorbate".
Other otc supps like Creatine, Agmatine and Theanine (pro-GABA) could also help.
All I can say is that I’ve read dozens of reports like this and this is my first detox using SA. I’ve been using Fent for four years straight, this is yet another detox, as I get older, so I was expecting this detox to be pretty fucking terrible and it has not been. Obviously, it’s not comfortable And the vitamin C kind of exasperates some of the bowel movements but pair that with Imodium and I’m a semi-function in person. Without it, I would not be able to be even holding my phone up to respond right now. Chalk up one more victory up for vitamin C, whether it’s official or Anecdotal.
 
If this is true, its awesome. Im not planning on quitting my pain medicine, but I almost want to just to induce withdrawal for a few days to test this. If I do I'll report back.
 
I want to add something. I came here some months back to report that I'd discovered I'd been infested with a parasite despite being seen by multiple doctors over multiple decades. None of which caught it or ever thought about looking for it. They didn't think of looking for it because they are _simply not trained_ in the west to consider them as an underlying issue for other issues. Instead, I was drug treated in an attempt to ease symptoms for decades. Which ime is basically all western doctors do now. Why not? It's profitable. I've watched them kill plenty of people I know through over prescriptions of pills to people that really didn't need them. They killed my Grandfather like that. Raped his liver good over the course of a decade.

It cost me like $2 and 3 days of my time to kill off a parasite I'd had for who knows how long. Killing them off 'cured' me for several issues. The main ones being an inability to eat certain foods (dairy products), horrible "IBS" and finally a life long vitamin b12 (and others) deficiency.

I've had follow up blood work done three times now since killing off those parasites and for the first time since I was a teenager I no longer have to inject B12 monthly in my arm. I don't have to inject it anymore because the parasites aren't stealing most of the vitamins I take in from my diet. Which isn't a great diet either. But at least I'm no longer being robbed of most of the vitamins I take in from the food I do eat.

I mention this because I wonder how much vit C these common parasites rob from the average person in the west. Most of whom must be infested with parasites without being aware of it. Since their doctors don't look for them (and the tests when they do look aren't effective at detection). I have personally lost all faith in western medicine. Well to the point where I don't trust the vast majority of people practicing it and I'm very skeptical of people that yell "pseudoscience!" without considering that they might be wrong or mistaken. I don't trust anyone that won't admit there is a possibility they could be wrong.

I believe mega dosing Vit C. probably at least eases withdrawals. After all. The body (and mind) can't recover and find normality after opioids (and any other drug) if it doesn't have the materials and tools it needs to rebuild itself.

I'll make myself the white rabbit as usual and see about doing this myself whenever I find the time. Since like always I've slipped back into my old habits again. Having gone through full blown withdrawal from most of the common opioids multiple times I feel like I'd be in a good place to judge. Once life slows down and I have the 2 weeks I'll give it a shot. The only reason I haven't done it already this year is because I'm in the old trap again and my habit only costs $30 a week these days. But I'm terrified soon my OTC fix will be banned so I'm trying to get ahead of the 8-ball.

Honestly, if they'd just give me some damn morphine or oxycodone daily in a mild dose (say 40-50mg of oxy a day) I'd be content to stay on it forever and pay them $100-$200 a month for it. But they just keep fucking with us and keep demanding we take stronger and stronger opioids with more horrible side effects. On top of that they expect us to pee in cups in front of them and attend talk sessions. I'm not doing those things for my fix. Fuck 'em. I'd rather put a bullet in my head than stoop to that again. First time I went to a clinic and saw what they want us to go through while expecting me to pay them $400+ a month for a small supply of bupe/meth I knew it wasn't for me. WTF would I do that for when I can spend $20 a week "from the street" for the EXACT SAME CHEMICAL and 1mg a day will hold me (and even get me high most of the time)?

They tried to put me on 16mg bupe daily! Without even having a proper doctor see me. I got the script because I pee'd in front of some fat chick and talked to another woman (who I could tell was dumb as a bag of hammers) through a web cam. She couldn't even figure out how to properly point hers at her own face (spent the entire 5 minutes having to look up her nasty nose).

I digress; The state of the western medicine and medical industry is bullshit. I don't trust any of them. I haven't for a long time. All they care about is profit and keeping you coming back for more. Drug dealers in lab coats.

So I'm sure they'd be more than willing to hide anything cheap and safe that would help ease or end withdrawal.

When I have the time I'll report back. Thanks for posting. I too prefer when text is copy/pasted instead of links. Anyone that's been on the web for as long as I have know links always end up dead at some point. I've also seen far too much information censored on purpose over the years to know you always archive everything. I'll work my way through the text of these sometime tomorrow. Thanks again.
 
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The only reason I haven't done it already this year is because I'm in the old trap again and my habit only costs $30 a week these days. But I'm terrified soon my OTC fix will be banned so I'm trying to get ahead of the 8-ball.
. WTF would I do that for when I can spend $20 a week "from the street" for the EXACT SAME CHEMICAL and 1mg a day will hold me (and even get me high most of the time)?
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About what substance are you referring what can you get so cheap for a week supply ??
 
About what substance are you referring what can you get so cheap for a week supply ??
bupe in the form of sub strips. 8mg is a week supply if I cut them into tiny pieces. Actually 8 day supply. When I used methadone instead of bupe for this purpose a week supply was the same price. 10mg a day would hold me even with my massive tolerance. But I went cold turkey for months before I got back on opioids for pain+addictive personality. I bought a portion of someone's weekly liquid take homes. Then I'd pour out a tiny bit of it everyday into a shot glass, mix with water then take it as a shot.

Now I do the same thing with kratom. Week supply is $30 to hold w/d at bay.

I preferred methadone out of all of them. But it made me a huge asshole to be around but it held off withdrawal the best. Kratom is kind of shit for that purpose because it wears off before a full nights sleep. So you either end up getting up in the middle of the night to re-dose or waking up with the sweats. I usually do the latter. Then it takes an hour after waking before I'm good to go for the day. Since it takes that long for the nasty powered I wash down first thing to take effect. I usually spend the first hour after waking in the bathroom with watery eyes and snot running everywhere while I have daily bowel movement. That's the only saving grace of kratom. I still have daily bowel movements and all the fiber makes things move along faster. But I sometimes push out massive logs or have hard to pass stool because of it.

All of them suck in the respect that I have to have an hour before I can do anything everyday. Well the methadone doesn't once I've been on it a couple of days because it lasts so long. With bupe I have to have 30 minutes-hour to let it melt under tongue then it takes another half hour before I start to feel it. Kratom takes about an hour to take effect and stop withdrawal symptoms. Really horrible when you get woken up by someone (or wake up late) and have to leave in a rush. I hate having to take that hour in the morning and hiding it from others.

Then kratom has the downside of having to sneak off every 4-6 hours to dose it. I've taken plenty of that stuff by tossing and washing with plain water in a public bathroom.
 
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I did this back in November. But I also used a bunch of other comfort meds and NAD plus transdermal patches because previously I had gone to a detox place that used IV NAD plus and that was the only way I was able to get off fentanyl (14 blues a day). Unfortunately, I was not able to stay clean more than a week, and came back home, got on real oxycodone for a couple of months, and then I came off 300 mg of oxycodone by myself using the above mentioned stuff. (Comfort meds included clonidine, baclofen, ondensatron for nausea, NAC, vitamin supplements, zinc, magnesium, cannabis tabs for sleep.)

I did find a bunch of studies and information about the vitamin C protocol and I used that as well. Also, that information is all over Reddit. Including links to the aforementioned studies.

In the late 60s when they found out about this vitamin C protocol, the government was too busy trying to get methadone on the market. The pharmaceutical companies can profit from methadone, but they cannot do so with a supplement, with vitamin C. So of course they sabotaged the studies that involved vitamin C, and pushed for the studies that involved methadone. Welcome to end stage capitalism! Who cares about humans suffering when the pharmaceutical companies can make money.
Vitamin c enhances blood flow to brain but people woth migraines will not tolerate this and get headaches..as we know migraine treatment is reducing size of bloodvessels in brain to reduce heafacje similar to what coffeee does to help with headaches. So vit c isnt for everybody in high doses.
 
bupe in the form of sub strips. 8mg is a week supply if I cut them into tiny pieces. Actually 8 day supply. When I used methadone instead of bupe for this purpose a week supply was the same price. 10mg a day would hold me even with my massive tolerance. But I went cold turkey for months before I got back on opioids for pain+addictive personality. I bought a portion of someone's weekly liquid take homes. Then I'd pour out a tiny bit of it everyday into a shot glass, mix with water then take it as a shot.

Now I do the same thing with kratom. Week supply is $30 to hold w/d at bay.

I preferred methadone out of all of them. But it made me a huge asshole to be around but it held off withdrawal the best. Kratom is kind of shit for that purpose because it wears off before a full nights sleep. So you either end up getting up in the middle of the night to re-dose or waking up with the sweats. I usually do the latter. Then it takes an hour after waking before I'm good to go for the day. Since it takes that long for the nasty powered I wash down first thing to take effect. I usually spend the first hour after waking in the bathroom with watery eyes and snot running everywhere while I have daily bowel movement. That's the only saving grace of kratom. I still have daily bowel movements and all the fiber makes things move along faster. But I sometimes push out massive logs or have hard to pass stool because of it.

All of them suck in the respect that I have to have an hour before I can do anything everyday. Well the methadone doesn't once I've been on it a couple of days because it lasts so long. With bupe I have to have 30 minutes-hour to let it melt under tongue then it takes another half hour before I start to feel it. Kratom takes about an hour to take effect and stop withdrawal symptoms. Really horrible when you get woken up by someone (or wake up late) and have to leave in a rush. I hate having to take that hour in the morning and hiding it from others.

Then kratom has the downside of having to sneak off every 4-6 hours to dose it. I've taken plenty of that stuff by tossing and washing with plain water in a public bathroom.
After many years on pain meds due to car accident my body flipped on me and my colon stopped moving. Just like that, literally overnight seemingly
Laxatives make stool soft but it doesnt come out without an enema anymore ever. So after colonscopies not finding anything bigger decided to detox. Im scared as hell!! I guess i had so.w colon infection initially which triggered the inertia. So beware anybody on opiods. You can be fine a loong time than something happens to colon and it stops working noteable by massive gas which gets often stuck painfully. There. An be a trigger event triggering the narcotic bowel.syndrome ibs spasms..
 
If this is true, its awesome. Im not planning on quitting my pain medicine, but I almost want to just to induce withdrawal for a few days to test this. If I do I'll report back.
If anything you can take it alongside your meds to improve their effects and reduce the med dose. Sodium ascorbate boosts dopamine production too.

There's also other synergistic options which reduce tolerances and withdrawals amongst other things:
  • Theanine
    - stops stress response, anti-anxiety, anti-insomnia, repairs dopaminergic system (GDNF)
  • Agmatine
    - fast-acting antidepressant, anti-stress, anti-adrenaline, endogenous opioid release, boosts dopamine, prevents tolerance, potentiates other drugs, NMDA antagonist
  • Magnolol & Honokiol
    - potent anti-anxiety, antidepressant, anti-stress, potentiates opioids, anti-anxiety, anti-insomnia
  • Rhodiola rosea (adaptogen, all-around support, boosts dopamine, anti-stress)
  • Thymoquinone (pro-opioid effects, prevents opioid tolerance/withdrawals)
  • Curcumin (prevents opioid tolerance, dependence, and withdrawal, potentiates opioids)
  • Eugenol (direct opioid effects, prevents tolerance)
  • Linalool (direct opioid effects, reduces opioid tolerance & dependence, anti-anxeity)
  • Creatine (anti-depressant, reduces opioid withdrawals)
Opioids that work directly and indirectly:
  • Caryophyllene (antidepressant, potentiates opioids, prevent opioid tolerance)
  • Cannabigerol (endogenous opioids, enhance opioid receptors, prevent opioid tolerance, antidepressant, anti-stress)
  • Myrrh (delta-opioid agonist: curzerene, furanoeudesma-1,3-diene)
  • Menthol (direct opioid, enhance opioid receptors, prevent opioid tolerance, boosts GABA)
  • Vanillin (endogenous opioids, antidepressant)
  • Myrcene (enhance opioid receptors, prevent opioid tolerance, potentiates opioids, sedative)
  • alpha-pinene (direct opioid effects @ mu-opioid receptor, anti-stress)
 
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Strychnos nux-vomica extract is another dirt cheap prospect. My post in another thread ⇩

Strychnos nux-vomica extract has been shown to help and there have been serious fans of its effects in general. It does have a pleasant, analgesic effect if the dose is kept low. I first heard about its use as a "drug" on this site.

A Unani drug combination (containing SNV with other plants) was tested on the opiate abstinence syndrome in moderately and severely morphine-dependent rats. Results showed that the drug combination markedly suppressed the opiate abstinence syndrome, and possessed central depressant and analgesic activity.(35)

35. Shahana Y, Zafar KMY, Zillur RS. Elaboration of the pharmacodynamics of some indigenous drugs claimed to have de-addictive effects. Ethnobiology in human welfare: abstracts of the fourth international congress of ethnobiology, Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh, India;1994:298.


A review on medicinal uses, analytical techniques and pharmacological activities of Strychnos nux-vomica Linn.: A concise report. 2017. Patel, K., Laloo, D., Singh, G. K., Gadewar, M., & Patel, D. K. Chinese Journal of Integrative Medicine. Advance online publication. DOI: 10.1007/s11655-016-2514-1 (Effects of SNV on Central Nervous System, pg. 4)


Two testimonials and a link to my strychnine thread:

You all missed it, I think, but when you get tired of fucking around with the chicken feed weak stuff its time to meet the master blaster. Strychnine baby. THe strychnine man of the 1920s was the best dressed man in sleazy streets of Soho London. He was still functional when all the coke heads [were] edgy and coming down, when the morphine crowd were in the gutter.

Seriously this plant extract if you know how to use it is a very healthy, noortopic stimulant. It does have a safe window of use and was used in western medicine for centuries. It still is widely used in the east. It is banned from olympic sports for good reason
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Ze Baboon, 2009-07-26, https://drugs-forum.com/threads/herbs-that-are-energizing-stimulating.354918/page-2#post-638158


If there was a stimulant as nice as strychnine is that was not as toxic, it would be SUPER POPULAR. The problem with strychnine is that a good dose is 500 micrograms. A large dose is 3 milligrams. A deadly dose is about 30 mg or so. 10 times more than a large dose and it can be fatal. That's a MAJOR problem. When it was popular, too many people would OD on it. As little as 5 mg can cause unpleasant effects. It's just too dangerous for the average person to buy at the local store. Too many people like to overdo drugs and not follow the directions on the box. With strychnine, you cannot take it like it's caffeine. You have to be very careful about taking accurate doses or you'll be in for it.

I think if people capped it at 1 mg, and never took more than 1 mg, it would still be available. Too many people abuse these kinds of things thinking things like, "if 1 pill is good 10 should give me much more energy!", so they would take ten 3 mg pills, and then die shortly after (or just have painful convulsions if they were lucky).


69Ron, 2010-01-31, https://drugs-forum.com/threads/nux-vomica-how-to-use.116031/#post-757000


Strychnine's association with peyote and LSD


*It is on the World Anti-doping Authority's banned substances list: https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited-list?page=0&q=strychnine&all=1#search-anchor (See S6. Stimulants)

Not necessarily strychnine, though. See this post for more info.
 
After many years on pain meds due to car accident my body flipped on me and my colon stopped moving. Just like that, literally overnight seemingly
Laxatives make stool soft but it doesnt come out without an enema anymore ever. So after colonscopies not finding anything bigger decided to detox. Im scared as hell!! I guess i had so.w colon infection initially which triggered the inertia. So beware anybody on opiods. You can be fine a loong time than something happens to colon and it stops working noteable by massive gas which gets often stuck painfully. There. An be a trigger event triggering the narcotic bowel.syndrome ibs spasms..
Hello, I know what you're going through with the colon not moving things along. When I was still taking oxycodone and morphine on the daily I ran into this problem. But most of the time if I let myself go into withdrawal I could have a bowel movement. I went through that for years and it was mostly fine. Sometimes I'd go a few days and have a hard time passing stool when I had to take pain meds for work and couldn't go through w/d. But I could always manage to go on the weekends.

Except this one time I couldn't have a bowel movement no matter what I tried. I think I went two weeks or so without going. I didn't keep up so it might have been a bit less. I was getting high everyday and not giving it much thought. Until I started having the bad gas and feeling sick. My stomach looked like a basket ball and no matter how hard I pushed nothing was moving and nothing would come out.

I probably should have went to the hospital but I didn't. I let myself go into withdrawal for two days. Still nothing. Days passed. Then one night I felt movement inside my bowls and it was painful. I went to the bathroom and sat on the toilet for awhile. Pushed really hard. Harder than I probably should have. Then I felt something large moving and had a turtle head peek out.

I grabbed on to the counter next to the toilet and braced for the pain. I pushed really hard and something started to come out. I felt my asshole expanding in size. I pushed harder and harder how I imagine women feel when they're trying to push out a baby. It was moving slowly and just kept coming and expanding my asshole. I felt things moving around inside of me that shouldn't be. I thought my asshole was going to rip open.

I pushed and pushed and more and more came. Now my asshole felt like it was as wide as a football. I broke out into a sweat, it was very painful and I was straining harder than I'd ever strained before. I couldn't push anymore I didn't have anything left. I was at my limit. It was at this point I felt my asshole closing up. I tried to stop it but I couldn't. It cut the monster inside of me in half. Very very painful. Stuff was hard as a rock. Once my asshole closed back up and it dropped it rung the toilet bowl like a bell when it hit. I was exhausted and drenched in sweat by this point.

I had to look. The monster was massive. It filled up most of the bowl. It was as wide as a football. I couldn't believe I'd managed to push something that large out of my butt hole. There was no way I was going to be able to flush it without clogging the toilet. I grabbed something near by and cut it into smaller pieces. It was rock hard. I hadn't eaten corn in over 2 weeks and I saw corn in it. I knew it must have been in my system for a long time because of that. I estimate it was from 10 days ago.

I knew there was more inside of me but I thought I was through the worse part. I was wrong.

Suddenly, my guts started making bad sounds and I felt tons of movement going on. I knew I was going to shit myself if I didn't sit down right now. I flushed the monster which thankfully went down without clogging the toilet. Then I sat down and a river of liquid shit flowed out of me like I've never shit before. It just kept coming and coming. Painful due to the tear of my asshole. I had to flush the toilet twice because I thought it would overflow. Yet it still continued to come. After the third flush it finally ended.

The monster was a dam and all of this liquid must have been things I'd eaten later and water my body had produced in an attempt to dislodge the monster poop dam. I thought my troubles were now over. I was wrong. I felt something massive moving towards my asshole.

It was the rest of the monster and it was just as large as the first half. It was even more painful because now the end of it was in a bad shape because my ass hole had cut it in half. It felt like it was lodged inside of me. I felt it rotate on the way out and it hurt worse than the first one when it came. My asshole expanded to the size of a football again. I had to push even harder than the first time. I felt sick, I was sweating buckets, my face was red and I pushed so hard a couple of times that I thought I was going to pass out or that my colon was going to come out from inside me. I was sure I would have a prolapsed asshole after this was finished.

I pushed really hard one last time and gave birth to the other half of the monster. When it hit the toilet bowl it rung like a bell again only louder this time. I sat there for a long time trying to regain my composure. I was hyperventilating and everything. My asshole felt like it'd just gone through a war zone. I knew it must be bleeding. It felt larger than it was before I'd pushed the monsters out. It was sore.

I looked and this monster was larger than the first. It was so large it filled up the entire toilet bowl and nearly reached the seat. I had to chop it up into smaller pieces to flush it down. I should have taken a picture of them because I knew no one would believe I could have pushed out such a large turd. But I didn't have my phone with me and taking pictures like that is pretty nasty.

I tried to wipe but it hurt so much and there was blood all over the TP. I decided to shower to get the sweat and poop off. Shower really hurt too when I ran water over my butt hole to clean it. I looked in the mirror and while my ass hole was bleeding it didn't look like I'd done as much damage as I thought. It wasn't bleeding as badly as I though. It was slightly larger than before but not as large as I feared. I didn't think I had a prolapse so I decided not to go to the doctor.

After that experience I was really careful about my opioid intake and always made sure I let myself go into withdrawals in the morning or late at night so I could have a bowel movement. Since that day I always make sure to have a bowel movement daily. Which is why kratom isn't that bad. I always go first thing in the morning while taking it no matter how much I take. Very rarely will I get hard stools if I don't drink enough water. I push out some massive logs thanks to it. But they're the normal sized wide logs. My butthole is slightly bigger than it was before I gave birth to the monsters. But it's still tight as far as I can tell since I haven't shoved anything up it bigger than a small oral syringe while boofing morphine and MXE.

I hope you feel better soon and that your bowl movements become more regular. I try to avoid laxatives and things of that nature because I don't want to be dependent on them. I know someone that requires them just to have bowel movements daily and they do not consume any drugs that should prevent them from having bowel movements. I've tried to get them to ween off the laxatives but they won't do it. They don't read the labels on OTC drugs. They thought they were taking something that was just a stool softener but it was a combo medicine that included a laxative. So they're been double dosing them for years. No wonder they can't go without them.

Don't fool around with this like I did. I should have gone to the hospital. I'm lucky I didn't do damage or have an infection. I hope I never ever have to push out a monster like that again. I wonder how much it weighed sometimes. It had to weigh more than a small baby I think.
 
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Hello, I know what you're going through with the colon not moving things along. When I was still taking oxycodone and morphine on the daily I ran into this problem. But most of the time if I let myself go into withdrawal I could have a bowel movement. I went through that for years and it was mostly fine. Sometimes I'd go a few days and have a hard time passing stool when I had to take pain meds for work and couldn't go through w/d. But I could always manage to go on the weekends.

Except this one time I couldn't have a bowel movement no matter what I tried. I think I went two weeks or so without going. I didn't keep up so it might have been a bit less. I was getting high everyday and not giving it much thought. Until I started having the bad gas and feeling sick. My stomach looked like a basket ball and no matter how hard I pushed nothing was moving and nothing would come out.

I probably should have went to the hospital but I didn't. I let myself go into withdrawal for two days. Still nothing. Days passed. Then one night I felt movement inside my bowls and it was painful. I went to the bathroom and sat on the toilet for awhile. Pushed really hard. Harder than I probably should have. Then I felt something large moving and had a turtle head peek out.

I grabbed on to the counter next to the toilet and braced for the pain. I pushed really hard and something started to come out. I felt my asshole expanding in size. I pushed harder and harder how I imagine women feel when they're trying to push out a baby. It was moving slowly and just kept coming and expanding my asshole. I felt things moving around inside of me that shouldn't be. I thought my asshole was going to rip open.

I pushed and pushed and more and more came. Now my asshole felt like it was as wide as a football. I broke out into a sweat, it was very painful and I was straining harder than I'd ever strained before. I couldn't push anymore I didn't have anything left. I was at my limit. It was at this point I felt my asshole closing up. I tried to stop it but I couldn't. It cut the monster inside of me in half. Very very painful. Stuff was hard as a rock. Once my asshole closed back up and it dropped it rung the toilet bowl like a bell when it hit. I was exhausted and drenched in sweat by this point.

I had to look. The monster was massive. It filled up most of the bowl. It was as wide as a football. I couldn't believe I'd managed to push something that large out of my butt hole. There was no way I was going to be able to flush it without clogging the toilet. I grabbed something near by and cut it into smaller pieces. It was rock hard. I hadn't eaten corn in over 2 weeks and I saw corn in it. I knew it must have been in my system for a long time because of that. I estimate it was from 10 days ago.

I knew there was more inside of me but I thought I was through the worse part. I was wrong.

Suddenly, my guts started making bad sounds and I felt tons of movement going on. I knew I was going to shit myself if I didn't sit down right now. I flushed the monster which thankfully went down without clogging the toilet. Then I sat down and a river of liquid shit flowed out of me like I've never shit before. It just kept coming and coming. Painful due to the tear of my asshole. I had to flush the toilet twice because I thought it would overflow. Yet it still continued to come. After the third flush it finally ended.

The monster was a dam and all of this liquid must have been things I'd eaten later and water my body had produced in an attempt to dislodge the monster poop dam. I thought my troubles were now over. I was wrong. I felt something massive moving towards my asshole.

It was the rest of the monster and it was just as large as the first half. It was even more painful because now the end of it was in a bad shape because my ass hole had cut it in half. It felt like it was lodged inside of me. I felt it rotate on the way out and it hurt worse than the first one when it came. My asshole expanded to the size of a football again. I had to push even harder than the first time. I felt sick, I was sweating buckets, my face was red and I pushed so hard a couple of times that I thought I was going to pass out or that my colon was going to come out from inside me. I was sure I would have a prolapsed asshole after this was finished.

I pushed really hard one last time and gave birth to the other half of the monster. When it hit the toilet bowl it rung like a bell again only louder this time. I sat there for a long time trying to regain my composure. I was hyperventilating and everything. My asshole felt like it'd just gone through a war zone. I knew it must be bleeding. It felt larger than it was before I'd pushed the monsters out. It was sore.

I looked and this monster was larger than the first. It was so large it filled up the entire toilet bowl and nearly reached the seat. I had to chop it up into smaller pieces to flush it down. I should have taken a picture of them because I knew no one would believe I could have pushed out such a large turd. But I didn't have my phone with me and taking pictures like that is pretty nasty.

I tried to wipe but it hurt so much and there was blood all over the TP. I decided to shower to get the sweat and poop off. Shower really hurt too when I ran water over my butt hole to clean it. I looked in the mirror and while my ass hole was bleeding it didn't look like I'd done as much damage as I thought. It wasn't bleeding as badly as I though. It was slightly larger than before but not as large as I feared. I didn't think I had a prolapse so I decided not to go to the doctor.

After that experience I was really careful about my opioid intake and always made sure I let myself go into withdrawals in the morning or late at night so I could have a bowel movement. Since that day I always make sure to have a bowel movement daily. Which is why kratom isn't that bad. I always go first thing in the morning while taking it no matter how much I take. Very rarely will I get hard stools if I don't drink enough water. I push out some massive logs thanks to it. But they're the normal sized wide logs. My butthole is slightly bigger than it was before I gave birth to the monsters. But it's still tight as far as I can tell since I haven't shoved anything up it bigger than a small oral syringe while boofing morphine and MXE.

I hope you feel better soon and that your bowl movements become more regular. I try to avoid laxatives and things of that nature because I don't want to be dependent on them. I know someone that requires them just to have bowel movements daily and they do not consume any drugs that should prevent them from having bowel movements. I've tried to get them to ween off the laxatives but they won't do it. They don't read the labels on OTC drugs. They thought they were taking something that was just a stool softener but it was a combo medicine that included a laxative. So they're been double dosing them for years. No wonder they can't go without them.

Don't fool around with this like I did. I should have gone to the hospital. I'm lucky I didn't do damage or have an infection. I hope I never ever have to push out a monster like that again. I wonder how much it weighed sometimes. It had to weigh more than a small baby I think.

This is the way

I too have pushed a monster out
 
Then I felt something large moving and had a turtle head peek out.

Once my asshole closed back up and it dropped it rung the toilet bowl like a bell when it hit.

I hadn't eaten corn in over 2 weeks and I saw corn in it.

My asshole felt like it'd just gone through a war zone.

I should have taken a picture of them because I knew no one would believe I could have pushed out such a large turd. But I didn't have my phone with me

My butthole is slightly bigger than it was before I gave birth to the monsters

I hope I never ever have to push out a monster like that again. I wonder how much it weighed sometimes. It had to weigh more than a small baby I think.

I just want to thank you for making me laugh more than I have for months.

That post belongs in some Hall Of Fame kinda section of BL for its length, detail, and imagery. Reading it was truly an experience.
 
I'm just appalled at all these critical opinions. The ones that are driving their heels in the dirt and saying this can't be true, did you even try to click on the original link to see it's from a PEER REVIEWED PUBLISHED MEDICAL JOURNAL on the national library of medicine. GOV website? How ignorant can't some human beings be? I was a heroin turned fentanyl addict for 18 years, went through a period of going to a methadone clinic and have went through 34 detoxes during all those years. I had tried EVERYTHING that was from Big pharma to "fix" my 1 addiction with just another addiction and what I've found out PERSONALLY is natural resources are FAR better at helping our bodies heal & overcome different things that Big pharma poisons. One other thing, for those that are questioning why they're therapist and WHY you haven't heard of this is so baffling to me it's to a point it makes me truly sick. Truly. If you haven't noticed since you've been living on your pedistals and high horses to notice but our world is BUILT on making $ first and foremost. This is EXACTLY why so many of us became addicts in the 1st place! Because a bunch of rich people got together (the Sackler family) and decided they wanted to be more rich so they pushed for the distribution and EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE MARKETING on the doctors themselves to begin prescribing oxycodone, BRAINWASHING doctors telling them it was non addictive when they have absolute full knowledge it was HIGHLY addictive. Purdue Pharma (the Sackler family) was sued in recent years over this. There is a mini-series based on this real life story of the start of the opposite epidemic on Netflix called painkiller. Smh. If you haven't noticed EVERYTHING that doesn't make a consistent money flow is kept hush hush meaning you won't see this information in the news, but it is public information you just have to SEARCH for it yourself. My daughter is currently extremely sick with U C among other things and the peer reviewed studies I found specifically on the conventional prescriptions used to keep UC under control compared to natural medical herbs is just shocking. There's so many studies and EVERY single one shows the medical herbs surpassing getting good results compared to big pharma poisons. Smh. Same thing with Ibogaine. Have you ever heard about this plant? Did you know that the studies done on it showed almost a 98% success rate of getting people through opposite WD and not only that but it effects the mental part to where these people don't ever feel cravings again? Amazing life changing plant for people wanting to get off opiates. That's why Canada has not only legalized it, but they give it out in a clinic setting and administer it to people going through WDs. You know what America's done about Ibogaine? MADE. IT. ILLEGAL. Pretty easy to understand why at this point. A 1 time use of a plant that virtually takes all WD symptoms away and makes you not crave the drug anymore isn't profitable. News flash the government and big corporations are NOT interested in making you better and looking out for your well-being! That's just asinine. The sickcare system is set up in a way to KEEP you coming back otherwise they'd be out of business. I know its uncomfortable to think about, but we have to face the truth at some point, avoiding it our entire lives just makes us part of the system and makes us no better than these money hungry filthy rich group of people that manage most of them entire world from behind the scenes. There is more and more evidence that's coming out each and every day about how brainwashed and lies to we have been by the government alongside with these people. This isn't the 90s anymore where this is the conspiracy theories that people would whisper about in coffee shops and anonymously talk about in chat rooms. THIS. IS. REAL. and it's all coming out whether people like yourselves want to accept it or not. I've been clean off ILLEGAL street drugs for almost 2 years but I feel terrible because I know I just replaced 1 drug for another that being Suboxone. This is how I currently found this website and thread because my intuition has been telling me for the past month that something like vitamin IV therapy could tremendously work with WD. And I find this, Shamans fox thank you from the bottom of my soul I want to thank you for this study that you found and had the courage to share despite probably knowing you'd get some kind of backlash from neysayers. Denial in the scientific field is nothing new, even when there's evidence starring directly at the neysayers. They spoke of multiple different studies in this particular journal some being animal studies, yes, but are you guys just simply dismissing all the human studies that were also quoted? If you are skeptical of data being presented to you then it's not up to the neysayers to convince us (the people that take fact for what it is like studies that are done) with tangible empirical data now. Your stating that a peer reviewed journal can't be true without providing any rational counter argument based on verifiable information in itself is a limbic brain reaction in other words, denial. This is classified as toxic unconstructive arguement tactics and behaviors the definition of close-mindeness and plausible deniability. To all the ney-sayers, please upgrade your logical software, it's 2025 you seem to be running on an outdated version. Think about it, every innovative step throughout history that broke free from the "norm" has been ridiculed, dismissed and lambasted at every turn. Our societies have been conditioned to thoughtlessly engage in a skewed version of plausible deniability. All truth passes through 3 states, 1 it is ridiculed 2 it is violently opposed 3. It is accepted as being self evident. All that being said I have a strong feeling that the ney-sayers are being effected on a mental level due to a possible vitamin C deficiency since the studies also cited that it effects can cause disbalances in the brain as well. Reading through the peer reviewed study while on a mission to find answers to my personal question and coming across such debate inspired me to make an account on blue light.org and write this.
 
Hello, I know what you're going through with the colon not moving things along. When I was still taking oxycodone and morphine on the daily I ran into this problem. But most of the time if I let myself go into withdrawal I could have a bowel movement. I went through that for years and it was mostly fine. Sometimes I'd go a few days and have a hard time passing stool when I had to take pain meds for work and couldn't go through w/d. But I could always manage to go on the weekends.

Except this one time I couldn't have a bowel movement no matter what I tried. I think I went two weeks or so without going. I didn't keep up so it might have been a bit less. I was getting high everyday and not giving it much thought. Until I started having the bad gas and feeling sick. My stomach looked like a basket ball and no matter how hard I pushed nothing was moving and nothing would come out.

I probably should have went to the hospital but I didn't. I let myself go into withdrawal for two days. Still nothing. Days passed. Then one night I felt movement inside my bowls and it was painful. I went to the bathroom and sat on the toilet for awhile. Pushed really hard. Harder than I probably should have. Then I felt something large moving and had a turtle head peek out.

I grabbed on to the counter next to the toilet and braced for the pain. I pushed really hard and something started to come out. I felt my asshole expanding in size. I pushed harder and harder how I imagine women feel when they're trying to push out a baby. It was moving slowly and just kept coming and expanding my asshole. I felt things moving around inside of me that shouldn't be. I thought my asshole was going to rip open.

I pushed and pushed and more and more came. Now my asshole felt like it was as wide as a football. I broke out into a sweat, it was very painful and I was straining harder than I'd ever strained before. I couldn't push anymore I didn't have anything left. I was at my limit. It was at this point I felt my asshole closing up. I tried to stop it but I couldn't. It cut the monster inside of me in half. Very very painful. Stuff was hard as a rock. Once my asshole closed back up and it dropped it rung the toilet bowl like a bell when it hit. I was exhausted and drenched in sweat by this point.

I had to look. The monster was massive. It filled up most of the bowl. It was as wide as a football. I couldn't believe I'd managed to push something that large out of my butt hole. There was no way I was going to be able to flush it without clogging the toilet. I grabbed something near by and cut it into smaller pieces. It was rock hard. I hadn't eaten corn in over 2 weeks and I saw corn in it. I knew it must have been in my system for a long time because of that. I estimate it was from 10 days ago.

I knew there was more inside of me but I thought I was through the worse part. I was wrong.

Suddenly, my guts started making bad sounds and I felt tons of movement going on. I knew I was going to shit myself if I didn't sit down right now. I flushed the monster which thankfully went down without clogging the toilet. Then I sat down and a river of liquid shit flowed out of me like I've never shit before. It just kept coming and coming. Painful due to the tear of my asshole. I had to flush the toilet twice because I thought it would overflow. Yet it still continued to come. After the third flush it finally ended.

The monster was a dam and all of this liquid must have been things I'd eaten later and water my body had produced in an attempt to dislodge the monster poop dam. I thought my troubles were now over. I was wrong. I felt something massive moving towards my asshole.

It was the rest of the monster and it was just as large as the first half. It was even more painful because now the end of it was in a bad shape because my ass hole had cut it in half. It felt like it was lodged inside of me. I felt it rotate on the way out and it hurt worse than the first one when it came. My asshole expanded to the size of a football again. I had to push even harder than the first time. I felt sick, I was sweating buckets, my face was red and I pushed so hard a couple of times that I thought I was going to pass out or that my colon was going to come out from inside me. I was sure I would have a prolapsed asshole after this was finished.

I pushed really hard one last time and gave birth to the other half of the monster. When it hit the toilet bowl it rung like a bell again only louder this time. I sat there for a long time trying to regain my composure. I was hyperventilating and everything. My asshole felt like it'd just gone through a war zone. I knew it must be bleeding. It felt larger than it was before I'd pushed the monsters out. It was sore.

I looked and this monster was larger than the first. It was so large it filled up the entire toilet bowl and nearly reached the seat. I had to chop it up into smaller pieces to flush it down. I should have taken a picture of them because I knew no one would believe I could have pushed out such a large turd. But I didn't have my phone with me and taking pictures like that is pretty nasty.

I tried to wipe but it hurt so much and there was blood all over the TP. I decided to shower to get the sweat and poop off. Shower really hurt too when I ran water over my butt hole to clean it. I looked in the mirror and while my ass hole was bleeding it didn't look like I'd done as much damage as I thought. It wasn't bleeding as badly as I though. It was slightly larger than before but not as large as I feared. I didn't think I had a prolapse so I decided not to go to the doctor.

After that experience I was really careful about my opioid intake and always made sure I let myself go into withdrawals in the morning or late at night so I could have a bowel movement. Since that day I always make sure to have a bowel movement daily. Which is why kratom isn't that bad. I always go first thing in the morning while taking it no matter how much I take. Very rarely will I get hard stools if I don't drink enough water. I push out some massive logs thanks to it. But they're the normal sized wide logs. My butthole is slightly bigger than it was before I gave birth to the monsters. But it's still tight as far as I can tell since I haven't shoved anything up it bigger than a small oral syringe while boofing morphine and MXE.

I hope you feel better soon and that your bowl movements become more regular. I try to avoid laxatives and things of that nature because I don't want to be dependent on them. I know someone that requires them just to have bowel movements daily and they do not consume any drugs that should prevent them from having bowel movements. I've tried to get them to ween off the laxatives but they won't do it. They don't read the labels on OTC drugs. They thought they were taking something that was just a stool softener but it was a combo medicine that included a laxative. So they're been double dosing them for years. No wonder they can't go without them.

Don't fool around with this like I did. I should have gone to the hospital. I'm lucky I didn't do damage or have an infection. I hope I never ever have to push out a monster like that again. I wonder how much it weighed sometimes. It had to weigh more than
stfu plagiarist

 
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I'm just appalled at all these critical opinions. The ones that are driving their heels in the dirt and saying this can't be true, did you even try to click on the original link to see it's from a PEER REVIEWED PUBLISHED MEDICAL JOURNAL on the national library of medicine. GOV website? How ignorant can't some human beings be? I was a heroin turned fentanyl addict for 18 years, went through a period of going to a methadone clinic and have went through 34 detoxes during all those years. I had tried EVERYTHING that was from Big pharma to "fix" my 1 addiction with just another addiction and what I've found out PERSONALLY is natural resources are FAR better at helping our bodies heal & overcome different things that Big pharma poisons. One other thing, for those that are questioning why they're therapist and WHY you haven't heard of this is so baffling to me it's to a point it makes me truly sick. Truly. If you haven't noticed since you've been living on your pedistals and high horses to notice but our world is BUILT on making $ first and foremost. This is EXACTLY why so many of us became addicts in the 1st place! Because a bunch of rich people got together (the Sackler family) and decided they wanted to be more rich so they pushed for the distribution and EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE MARKETING on the doctors themselves to begin prescribing oxycodone, BRAINWASHING doctors telling them it was non addictive when they have absolute full knowledge it was HIGHLY addictive. Purdue Pharma (the Sackler family) was sued in recent years over this. There is a mini-series based on this real life story of the start of the opposite epidemic on Netflix called painkiller. Smh. If you haven't noticed EVERYTHING that doesn't make a consistent money flow is kept hush hush meaning you won't see this information in the news, but it is public information you just have to SEARCH for it yourself. My daughter is currently extremely sick with U C among other things and the peer reviewed studies I found specifically on the conventional prescriptions used to keep UC under control compared to natural medical herbs is just shocking. There's so many studies and EVERY single one shows the medical herbs surpassing getting good results compared to big pharma poisons. Smh. Same thing with Ibogaine. Have you ever heard about this plant? Did you know that the studies done on it showed almost a 98% success rate of getting people through opposite WD and not only that but it effects the mental part to where these people don't ever feel cravings again? Amazing life changing plant for people wanting to get off opiates. That's why Canada has not only legalized it, but they give it out in a clinic setting and administer it to people going through WDs. You know what America's done about Ibogaine? MADE. IT. ILLEGAL. Pretty easy to understand why at this point. A 1 time use of a plant that virtually takes all WD symptoms away and makes you not crave the drug anymore isn't profitable. News flash the government and big corporations are NOT interested in making you better and looking out for your well-being! That's just asinine. The sickcare system is set up in a way to KEEP you coming back otherwise they'd be out of business. I know its uncomfortable to think about, but we have to face the truth at some point, avoiding it our entire lives just makes us part of the system and makes us no better than these money hungry filthy rich group of people that manage most of them entire world from behind the scenes. There is more and more evidence that's coming out each and every day about how brainwashed and lies to we have been by the government alongside with these people. This isn't the 90s anymore where this is the conspiracy theories that people would whisper about in coffee shops and anonymously talk about in chat rooms. THIS. IS. REAL. and it's all coming out whether people like yourselves want to accept it or not. I've been clean off ILLEGAL street drugs for almost 2 years but I feel terrible because I know I just replaced 1 drug for another that being Suboxone. This is how I currently found this website and thread because my intuition has been telling me for the past month that something like vitamin IV therapy could tremendously work with WD. And I find this, Shamans fox thank you from the bottom of my soul I want to thank you for this study that you found and had the courage to share despite probably knowing you'd get some kind of backlash from neysayers. Denial in the scientific field is nothing new, even when there's evidence starring directly at the neysayers. They spoke of multiple different studies in this particular journal some being animal studies, yes, but are you guys just simply dismissing all the human studies that were also quoted? If you are skeptical of data being presented to you then it's not up to the neysayers to convince us (the people that take fact for what it is like studies that are done) with tangible empirical data now. Your stating that a peer reviewed journal can't be true without providing any rational counter argument based on verifiable information in itself is a limbic brain reaction in other words, denial. This is classified as toxic unconstructive arguement tactics and behaviors the definition of close-mindeness and plausible deniability. To all the ney-sayers, please upgrade your logical software, it's 2025 you seem to be running on an outdated version. Think about it, every innovative step throughout history that broke free from the "norm" has been ridiculed, dismissed and lambasted at every turn. Our societies have been conditioned to thoughtlessly engage in a skewed version of plausible deniability. All truth passes through 3 states, 1 it is ridiculed 2 it is violently opposed 3. It is accepted as being self evident. All that being said I have a strong feeling that the ney-sayers are being effected on a mental level due to a possible vitamin C deficiency since the studies also cited that it effects can cause disbalances in the brain as well. Reading through the peer reviewed study while on a mission to find answers to my personal question and coming across such debate inspired me to make an account on blue light.org and write this.
who TF is gonna read this
 
If you don't want to, that is your birth right choice. I personally read the study in it's entirety and every single post after. Regardless of opinions, I see the light in each and every one of you. I'm glad I found this website much good information on here.
 
Except this one time I couldn't have a bowel movement no matter what I tried. I think I went two weeks or so without going.
Been there with brorphine. What I did was sucking up a decent amount of glycerine into a syringe and boofing that. Within seconds I felt that thing in me breaking up violently, like a meteor entering the atmosphere and ejecting into the bowl. There are also glycerine based suppositories though I dont know if one of those will be enough to break up a massive opioid related constipation.
 
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