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Sad to say once again im tryin to get off the d..................
Looking into detoxes on monday but if i cant get into one i have to choose between

a. 13 ten mg methadone pills
b. about 5 8mg suboxones
or c. about 50 tramadol

In the past subs used to work for me but last time i tried one i felt terrible and ended up using afterwards.................the methadone last time i tried i took like 35 mg i think and still kinda sick , so maaybe the first day or 2 id need more , but i dont wanna just use that then end up being sick when it wears off .................
obviously there is no pain free kick from H , but can anyone suggest the best option ?
i DEF dont have willpower to do cold turkey or i would...................

my H habit is anywhere from 5-10 bags a day , probably about 7 if they are average size bags....................i am sick and tired of waking up sick in the morning and blowing money ....................
 
well im very against methadone and the few times i tried subs they didnt work for me. so since you say you cant do it cold turkey id go with the trams.

but you def can kick CT. if anything id see if you can get some benzos. good luck my friend.
 
Yeah ive tried b4 with methadone doin like 40 mg , then 30,20,10 etc........but u basically just prolong the sickness...........and yeah subs used to work but now i hate how they make me feel........u think trams actaully help? have u kicked CT before ?
 
nah i dont think trams will help really. and ya ive kicked CT 4 times. just used immodium. its the way to go imo. i was actually just reading your thread bout long term addicts. thats good you want to kick. but id ask your self if you are ready and are gonna be in it for the long haul ya know?

everytime i have kicked it has been because i had to, this last time in september it was cuz i got arrested. ive been on house arrest for over 6 months now, used a handful of times in that 6 months. im sure once i get off house arrest prob on tuesday and done with court ordered outpatient, il be back to using. i just dont think im ready yet, and its scary ya know? but i just dont think im ready to take on recovery. and im only 20, started using at 16, addicted by 17, so i still want to have some fun. maybe rehab will change my thinking but dont look like it now.

but ya id just bite your tounge and fuckin kick that shit, make that WD your bitch.

and dont use any tramadol, thats really not a good idea now that i think bout it lol
 
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What up jake

Ill tell you what you do and it might be hard to do this:

taper your dope use down to 1 pack a day
Then take the methadone.. If you take the methadone right you shouldnt expereince and WDs. Id take 20 the first day, 20 the second day 15 thew third, 10 the 4th 5 the 5th then stop or do it as you think you need it.. just my 2 cents

I am 100 % sure that with the pills you have you can be opiate free with virtually no WDs
 
man i hope , i gotta tell myself there is no point in copping again . i only have a little money and it will just make things worse in the end..............
 
RidingtheBrownline said:
well im very against methadone and the few times i tried subs they didnt work for me. so since you say you cant do it cold turkey id go with the trams.

but you def can kick CT. if anything id see if you can get some benzos. good luck my friend.
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Caution-please be very careful not to become addicted to the benzos on top. I have been taking temazepam for insomnia for years n never noticed wd's when missed, but while I've been wding from opy I took ativan several days in a row n now feel as if I am wding from those as well. At any rate I wish u the very best quitting-working on it very hard myself. Personally I am currently using subs yet dislike starting a new addiction-but subs work great so far.
 
Jake, get some Immodium. Then take the trams. You've tried the other and it hasn't worked in the past.

I agree that you should try to taper your dope use, but if you can't, this should still be okay. Someone else may be able to help with the Immodium/Tram dosages, but I've taken up to 40mg of immodium to get rid of withdrawals with no problem. But your habit is probably bigger than mine ever was.
 
hard to believe immodium and trams will work . wouldnt takin methadone like 3 or 4 days work ? at low doses...........
 
tae 100mg of tramadol 2x a day and 10mg of methadone day one, day two , cut down to 100mg of tram and stay at 10mg methadone day 3, then decrease to 5mg methadone and stay at 100mg of tram for 2 more days, last day do 100mg tram only. The SSRI properties of tramadol do help i found. Trams on their own wont do enough imo and no naloxen = dope lol , hang in.
 
Is there still no way for you to visit a relative in an area where you can't easily cop dope? I would pack my bags, take the methadone pills with me, and get outta there for a while.
 
1. i thought trams and methadone together can cause seizures
2. no relatives that i could stay with .......well only ones i can live right near where i cop so that wont help

still got this apt. monday to see about detoxes................
i really dont wanna go to one though
im thinkin the methadone is the easiest way to kick but when it runs out the w/d might come right back i dont know...............
i dont know if its better to do a longer taper taking less each day or just take like 40 mg a day for 3 days and then stop and it would be enough in my system to hold me for a little bit ?

worst part is even if i take methadone i still miss dope , thats why the clinic didnt work for me.................
 
If I were you I would take 10mg of methaone for 13 days its not gonna make you well but it will make the WDs alot more bearable than CT. The problem with not going to detox is as soon as the kick gets bad your gonna go score its inevitable. The whole idea of a medicated withdrawl is so that its bearable enough to not send u out to score. Over 500mg of trams will cause seizures
 
lol /\

Jakes a good guy though and I hate to see him suffer. I had a feeling you were using bro and I'm definitely not going to make a fuss over it. Staying off opiates is a real mfkr.

Anyhow, I actually have some solid advice for you though I'd rather call tommorow to explain it. I learned something VERY useful for people who live in NJ and its definitely something that will help. I found out a couple weeks back and wound up jumping off my pods completely 5 days ago. I'm still on a weaker opiate (tram) along with something else, and the combo so far is working REALLY well. I've been tapering both meds and am amazed at how smooth its going.

I think when I get to the end, I'm gonna cut the tram and keep my other med, which helps just as much if not more than the tram and is not an opiate. Call it the "perfect" taper I can't explain why its been working so well but it is. The only thing is once you get clean again you really need to figure out how to stay clean. Same as me. But getting off opiates again won't be hard, I'll call you tommorow bro.

Keep your chin up.
 
What about taking each of these methadone doses 2x a day. 30, 20, 10, 5.

I had a really painless 4 day detox with methadone, and I actually just took 1 of the 5mg pills the last day.
 
jake99 said:
Sad to say once again im tryin to get off the d..................
Looking into detoxes on monday but if i cant get into one i have to choose between

a. 13 ten mg methadone pills
b. about 5 8mg suboxones
or c. about 50 tramadol

In the past subs used to work for me but last time i tried one i felt terrible and ended up using afterwards.................the methadone last time i tried i took like 35 mg i think and still kinda sick , so maaybe the first day or 2 id need more , but i dont wanna just use that then end up being sick when it wears off .................
obviously there is no pain free kick from H , but can anyone suggest the best option ?
i DEF dont have willpower to do cold turkey or i would...................

my H habit is anywhere from 5-10 bags a day , probably about 7 if they are average size bags....................i am sick and tired of waking up sick in the morning and blowing money ....................
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your best bet is probably to try and not take the methadone, the kick off meth is soo much more intense and longer than the dope kick.. i was on meth for 9 months and it was the hardest thing to get off.. use suboxone or buprophimine and take xanax or seroquil to help you relax.. i had a 30 bag a day habit and kicked with nothing.. depends how bad you want it.. its gonna suck but take lots of motrin and take many hot showers it really does help atleast for a little while.. or go to a detox center.. ive found its always easier even cold turkey in a facility..

crystalserenity said:
Caution-please be very careful not to become addicted to the benzos on top. I have been taking temazepam for insomnia for years n never noticed wd's when missed, but while I've been wding from opy I took ativan several days in a row n now feel as if I am wding from those as well. At any rate I wish u the very best quitting-working on it very hard myself. Personally I am currently using subs yet dislike starting a new addiction-but subs work great so far.
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it takes months of steady use of benzo's to form a physical addiction. how ever they wil show up on a drug test for up to 2 weeks..
 
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THing that sucks is even if methadone takes away physical w/d the mental is still a bitch .................................
and subs seem like they dont work well once u have a decent size habit
 
jake, im w you man , detoxing is not a real problem so much as staying clean. I dunno man, the mental aspect of addiction is overwhelming and doesn't give a fuck about you , me , anyone . It just takes and takes. Best of luck man , i hope you can manage things and hold it down w your family n what not.
 
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