Getting high from snakebites

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Getting high from snakebites

The addiction journal Substance Abuse has two cases of people using snakebites to get high.

To be clear, this isn’t the mix of beer and cider, a drink also known as snakebite, but an actual venomous bite from a serpent.

Here’s the first case – and yes, alternative reality fans – he really is named ‘Mr PKD‘ in the report:

Mr. PKD, a 52-year-old married male with a history of substance use for past 34 years started taking alcohol at the age of 18 and over the years he added cannabis, benzodiazepines, and opioids over different periods of time and in varying combinations to produce the desired effects…

Two months before contacting our center, the patient learned of the intoxicating effects of snake venom through some of his friends and, as reasoned by the patient, he decided to try it in order “to experience the kick the other substances now lacked.”

With the help of the nomadic snake charmers common in India, the patient subjected himself twice to the snake bite over his left forearm over a period of 15 days. There was no local tissue injury at the site of the bite apart from the bite marks.

The patient described a feeling of dizziness and blurred vision followed by a heightened arousal and sense of well-being lasting a few hours; a more intense state of arousal than he would experience with pentazocine injections. The patient was not able to identify the snakes used but was apprehensive about the risks involved in the process.​

The other case involves a man who “subjected himself to being bitten once on his left foot by a small Indian cobra (Naja naja). The patient described the experience as a blackout associated with a sense of well-being, lethargy, and sleepiness”.

Anyone even slightly tempted by this description should check out the off-putting illustrations on the Wikipedia page on snakebites. Slightly less trippy I’m sure you’ll agree.
 
I wouldn't let a medical professional shoot me up with k, I think I'd pass on letting a snake shoot me up with its face too
 
You dont get high from snakebites you fkn die (without antidote). The only high you will be getting is your own brain producing dmt in a near death experience (and i dont like calling that a high).
 
I find it rather odd that the comments I see here are insulting to those who have used snake venom to achieve a high. Why is it that we reject such an idea, when we accept without contest the idea of shooting up, insufflating substances, and smoking inorganics? What makes snake venom any different from the drugs we use today? Yes, snake venom is more times than none, deadly, but its not as if Heroin, Cocaine, Meth, etc arent deadly themselves.

While I do not agree with such a practice, and find it to be a very risky one at that, I do not feel the need to wholeheartedly reject it, as who is to say what is right or wrong?

Just my two cents.
 
wonder if you could vape it out of a meth pipe like when you dry out toad goo to get 5meo... lol I feel afraid to even post this speculation in that some dumb bastard may try it
 
On erowid they have a vault named "animals." http://www.erowid.org/animals/

In it they have experience reports of a few snake bite wierdo's,
a few black widow using freaks
just to name a few.

real classy stuff. The black widow report is pretty insane
 
Bomboclat said:
I find it rather odd that the comments I see here are insulting to those who have used snake venom to achieve a high. Why is it that we reject such an idea, when we accept without contest the idea of shooting up, insufflating substances, and smoking inorganics? What makes snake venom any different from the drugs we use today? Yes, snake venom is more times than none, deadly, but its not as if Heroin, Cocaine, Meth, etc arent deadly themselves.

While I do not agree with such a practice, and find it to be a very risky one at that, I do not feel the need to wholeheartedly reject it, as who is to say what is right or wrong?

Just my two cents.
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Are you trying to draw a parallell between the normal ways of changing your mind that we know of, and using an animals mouth to inject a plethora of infectants and not to mention the venom itself.

The reason we automatically reject this, and accept the other ways of drug use, is for an extremely obvious reason. I also find it funny how you mention smoke inorganics, implying that smoking organic matter is somehow better? lol.

How can anyone compare this to shooting up or anything. You know injecting a drug isnt like you're taking a 50/50 chance that someone bad is going to happen. When done correct it's fairly safe. Could this be said about snakebites?

Before we even consider the implications of letting unsterile surfaces make contact with open wounds, and the shit that literally is just waiting to infect whatever it gets into, what about snake venom itself?

Most destroy everything from muscles to blood itself, destroy living tissue, very dramatically effect the nerve systems that controls the lungs and heart. Shuts down the kidneys, it isn't something you want in your body. Of course that could be argued with certain chemicals which hitch a ride through that plastic tube with the heroin, but i think we can all agree snake venom and the infects present in the serpants mouth are going to be alot bigger of a deal for the body to deal with.

So its my opinion that the post i quoted was pretty stupid. The author of that post is making the mistake of thinking these drugs themselves are deadly. When this isn't the whole truth. Without the human, these drugs arent anything. So it takes the human action coupled with the drug, to result in the harm thought to be caused by the drug.

So it is wrong to label the drugs as bad, lol making moral judgements about drugs does my head in.... Because it's not the drug, it's the individual, and that individuals susceptibility to becoming addicted and ruining their lives.

'Drugs are all poison deadly chemicals that we have got tolerant to and use every, so what is the difference between snake venom which is also deadly and also can have tolerance developed against, so they arent much different at all' -This is highly stupid.

They are not compatible at all, venom is a totally neurotoxic,cardiotoxic, hematoxic, everything-toxic bunch of chemicals. No matter how these chemicals are ingested into the human body they are going to cause damage, and not benign damage, and not accumulated over 2 decades type damage. But complete organ faliure within 50 hours of ingestion damage.....

So fucking stupid to compare this with shooting up cocaine and heroin.... And of course it has nothing about being right, or wrong. As these are but mere moral judgements. So poster of that post, we cant say whats right and wrong, but we can use our brains and logically come to a conclusion that intentionally being bitten by deadly snakes is probably just a little bit more risky and poses a greater potential of death and lasting injury than say, pumping liquified morphine and cocaine into your arm.

So you see it has not much to do with drug-snobbery at all, and i dont see why you people are all here implying that. 'i thought people were more open minded than this'. Theres open minded, then theres just complete stupidity. Using snake-bites to get high, does fall into this category. Whether you want to think people are just being close minded or not. I wonder if the story went on to say how this man ended up having his whole arm amputated or some very real consequense of doing this type of shit, i wonder then if people would be calling other people close minded for calling something that is 100% fucking stupid, fucking stupid!
 
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slimvictor said:
I completely agree with Bomboclast.
The elitism shown by some people around here is very frustrating.
I would have thought that we were all together in our open-mindedness with respect to achieving altered states of consciousness, but alas! It is not so.
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Okay exactly WHAT elitism are you refering to here? All i can see is people reacting in a pretty predictable way to the contents of the thread.

Sorry to break it to you, because people think this way of altering your consciousness is quite stupid dosn't make it elitism. lol.

It's pathetic you would even claim this, i dont see anyone here saying how they are better than people who do this? All i see if people pointing out some truths about how stupid anyone would truely have to be to do this.

This isnt elitism, or whatever ever other bullshit you want to call it. It's people giving you their opinion. So dont come here saying things like that just for the sake of it, when there is no elitism what so ever in the thread. Just because people say its stupid dosn't mean they're implying they're elite or better than people who do this.... And whats so frustrating about differing opinions? You know just because some people dont agree with you, you just cant start screaming elitism! Around lol.. What do you expect everyone to be in 100% perfect agreement all of the time so you dont get frustrated that god forbid some elites want to disagree with or attack your opinion. If you can't hack this, get off a public forum.

Time for you to perhaps lift your thinking up a notch or two?
 
If this guy ever dies trying to achieve the same or a similar high, I bet he will be featured on a future episode of 1000 Ways to Die

Actually, this guy is almost a pioneer of sorts. If there were safeguards or established methods of animal highs, even with venoms or toxins, I think most drug people would at least have thoughts of dabbling in such highs. Since there aren't, however, it does seem pretty shortsighted to be fucking around with such potent toxins specifically designed to kill
 
Dragynfyr said:
I wouldn't let a medical professional shoot me up with k, I think I'd pass on letting a snake shoot me up with its face too
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ketamine injections are the best experiences man has to offer, you are truly missing out on mans greatest wonder because of your irrational fear
 
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