Getting drunk to meet new people.

[JackiesBabyy]

^I didn't find it that helpful either but I didn't really give it much time and it probably depends a lot on the practitioner as well. I find generally you have to try a bunch of different things and find a combination that works for you. And you have to stick at them as many don't show noticeable results immediately. I can tell you about the things that have helped me with anxiety, ADHD, & depression if you like. Didn't want to bother listing them if you aren't interested

Go for it, haha. I'll try almost anything.

 

[lars90]

I feel for you man, it's really hard when you're a teen to cope with. I used GABA receptor drugs ( alcohol / benzodiazepines etc etc ) and opioids to help make me more social and in the short run it did..... in the long run it almost took my life and led me to being almost reclusive except going to get whatever I needed to manage the now developing panic attacks. Alcohol is not the answer..... it's short acting and hard to predict. Also highly addictive and easy to fall into if you are an anxiety sufferer.

Have you tried seeing a doctor ? Perhaps the correct SSRI and a low dose benzodiazepine therapy could help you. I'm just trying to give you the advice i never had. Be safe, hope things look up brother.

Thrtr id no way on earth that I could ask my parents to take me to a doctor. Wow that would be very bad.

This is only short term. I have done DXM 6 times and on the end I messed up ended up being high for 2 weeks than had 2 wekks of side effekts and n ow after 6 months im still recovering ... But it got allot better... I know that I can not do to much... I really do

Its a bad reason to drink man

I shoot heroin because i dont feel "normal" in my own skin and need to put something in my body to chamge the way i feel... and thats a problem

You may see the two as being so far apart from each other that you disregard this post. And ill admit theyre in a really different ballpark in most ways

But they are the same in that it leads to always needing something to feel that +1.... eventially youll think to yourself why shouldnt i feel this much better and more confident 5, 6 , 7 days of the week??

Its a slippery slope that if i could be your age again and not have to start off smoking weed all the time to deal with myself id do anything in the world to go back and ree-do it and learn to be happy and content with myself

Just some wise words from a 24 year old junkie who wants the best for you though man.

Thanks m,an that really means allot to me. I really dont wannt to overdo it and I am sure after the DXM thing I wont (read in my other threads). I am not gonna overdo it jsut a little

1. If benzos could be bought at a store legally I'm sure the alcohol companies would go bankrupt.
2. Even if he doesn't have social anxiety disorder, it's perfectly okay to use alcohol sometimes for the social boost. Most people who become addicted to alcohol are the ones that either have a gene polymorphism that makes it so that it's damn near impossible to stop drinking once you start, or the incredibly depressed people who drink to make life bearable. The former is why alcoholism runs in families. There's no reason to tell this 16 year old kid drinking alcohol in moderation isn't okay unless his parents and grandparents were hardcore alcoholics themselves.

Well My grandmother was alkohol adicted and I was until short addicted to DXM and I knew I could never taske it again. I think I can handly< alkohol

First of all benzodiazepines can be purchased over-the-counter in many countries with booming alcohol industries. So you're wrong.

You're referring to a non-issue in this thread.

People with legitimate anxiety disorders deserve benzodiazepines in my opinion; alcohol is an inferior choice due to its toxicity, multiple unhelpful mechanisms of action, and short duration of effect.

I will say this again: this thread is not about someone with a clinical anxiety disorder. This is about a kid who gets buzzed or drunk and finds it socially helpful.

State your opinion and don't infringe on mine.

I urge OP to use caution. Drinking once or twice a week at your age, even if you don't get drunk, probably is moderately unhealthy. You're demonstrating responsibility beyond your years by asking for a second opinion. Most kids would simply drink and not think twice.

First of Im not going to take benzodiazepines. Stop the discutsion or Im gonna close the threrd!

And thank you yes I try my best being responsable witht hese kind of things.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

Dude, please use the EDIT function. You've now made four double-posts instead of just editing your post.

I don't think you should take the comparison between alcohol and DXM too far. Alcohol and DXM are both addictive, but alcohol is more addictive than DXM (for most people anyway). The fact that alcohol addiction runs in your family and that you had an issue with DXM addiction means you are certainly predisposed to alcohol addiction.

That being said, you can still just alcohol - just be careful.

 

[lars90]

Depends, how much alcohol are we talking about here? Drinking a lot can also damage your health in ways other than just brain damage. Are you making sure to stay well hydrated, well-nourished, get lots of vitamins, and keep your electrolytes balanced? Those things are very important if you are drinking heavily or frequently. I would also be concerned about addiction.


It doesn't have to be a choice between those 2 scenarios. There are ways to deal with severe anxiety other than drinking (or taking benzos, opioids, etc). It can take a lot of effort and time, but IMO is well worth it. If I could go back in time I would have much rather started looking into therapy, natural/alternative medicine, self-help, etc, and even less harmful meds, at a young age than turning to drugs for years because I didn't realize or want to believe there were other options, and ending up doing all these things at 30 when it was much harder because I'd altered my brain from using drugs for so long (and made my symptoms - anxiety, depression, ADHD, pain, etc - worse, and wasted all that time I could have been working on improving them instead of just masking them).

First of assoon as I ffeel a addiction to alcohl I will stop right away! Yes I go running like twice a week I am one of the most athletic kids in my school. My parents do feed me well. I drink lots and lots of water.

Dude, please use the EDIT function. You've now made four double-posts instead of just editing your post.

I don't think you should take the comparison between alcohol and DXM too far. Alcohol and DXM are both addictive, but alcohol is more addictive than DXM (for most people anyway). The fact that alcohol addiction runs in your family and that you had an issue with DXM addiction means you are certainly predisposed to alcohol addiction.

That being said, you can still just alcohol - just be careful.

I will from now on sorry :/
No I can tell you straight of that that is wrong. Most people think DXM is so harmless and such a beatifull drug. But I felt an addiction after the second time and I took 2 weeks break everytime...


Okay I will thanks

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Kid, I was not recommending that you take benzodiazepines. I don't think you have the power to close this thread.

Don't be stupid. Alcohol addiction has conquered grown men with seasoned sensitivities and the willpower of steel.

Many don't "feel" the addiction coming.

 

[lars90]

ill ask a mod... The thing is jsut that thats of topic. ...


I did it today took about 4 swallos and the thing is I dont like the "high" of alcohl that much. The only reason I do it is because everything gets allot relaxt and I make out with allot of girls ^^

I just get allooing with the poeple Im with I mabale to say what I wanna say and be funny

 

[Renz Envy]

If you are an athletic person, there are a few things you need to know about alcohol.

• Alcohol lowers your testosterone levels and raises estrogen.
• Alcohol slows protein synthesis and delays muscle growth.
• Alcohol hinders all athletic activity
• Alcohol deprives the muscles and tissues of water
• It can take up to 48 hours for alcohol to be filtered out. During that time, your athleticism is hindered.

(Now) For those who believe alcohol companies would go bankrupt if benzos were available, I will disagree. Alcohol is both a GABA-a & GABA-b agonist. While benzos agonize the GABA-A. Try using GHB and compare the experience to a benzo. That's the difference between GABA-B and GABA-A.

Personally I think the hospitals would just be flooded with people suffering severe respiratory depression from mixing benzos and alcohol.

 

[2c-goinsane]

no offense man but you did DXM 6 times imo that's not enough times to get addicted to it. alcohol will be 10 x's worse than what your thinking imo. like someone else said your not gonna know your addicted right away, usually it's already a done deal once you have caught onto your habit. for instance i was using heroin once a week maybe twice a week some weeks for not even 6 months, i don't really even like it but it was becoming a routine after a period of time and before i knew it i was becoming dependent on it and started looking for that nod when i was going without it some weeks, i got off easy though never had full on w/d's.

ime with addictive drugs it doesn't matter who you are or how strong/smart you are, you can become a slave. moderation is key.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Go for it, haha. I'll try almost anything.

I'll PM you so as not to derail the thread (although if anyone else is interested they are definitely welcome to PM me too )

Thrtr id no way on earth that I could ask my parents to take me to a doctor. Wow that would be very bad.

How come? Also, couldn't you go to a doctor (or therapist etc) on your own?

My grandmother was alkohol adicted... I think I can handly< alkohol

Having a family history of alcohol addiction means you have to be extra careful with alcohol. Addiction is something that creeps up on you and you don't normally realize until its too late. Drinking is normal for teenagers, just make sure not to start doing using it in excess or start relying on it or using it as a crutch to cope with your social anxiety or other life issues.

First of Im not going to take benzodiazepines. Stop the discutsion or Im gonna close the threrd!

ill ask a mod... The thing is jsut that thats of topic. ...

No need to start threatening thread closures Regular Bluelighters can't close threads anyway. There was just a little discussion about benzos because they are often used for anxiety and are similar to alcohol. No one was suggesting you were going to take benzos, or should take them. I agree it was kind of getting off-topic but it seemed to be resolving on it's own. If you have a problem with there being slightly off-topic branches of discussion in a thread you started you can always PM a mod about it.

 

[retard]

Although I have the feeling that clon keeps workng but subtle long term. I wish that I have never started them.

For the people who want to start with them for anxiety, forget about it. Uppers work for my social anxiety, maybe because I have some ADD problems.

 

[lars90]

Well guys seems its no problem after all. I drank monday and yesturday and it worked great but unless im with a person I really like I get this down feeling when I come home. Well so heres the thing If I dont know people I dont talk to them that much but the later it gets and the longer we stay together the more I am able to say. Like today I met a girl for the first time I only know from facebook we chatted like allot and I have seen her allot around the city I live in and I always tick her on the shoulder and say hello to her. Well today I got to meet her and then after 2 hours of talking about anything that when though are minds a nother freind came with a pretty girl. And Ireally didnt feel as stressed or as sweatty as I usally feel. So we got along fine well then my guy freinds took us to the point where everyone in the city always meat up and everytime your there you meet a bunch of new people. So I met some people I know and strated chatting with people I didint know as well and the more I did that the more my self esteem grew and the more I was able to say. After that a girl that I have know for a really long time but never really had much to do with ask us if we were gonna come with them to her town so I wen with her the girl that came me and we were fine. I had lots of fun and the later it got theremore I was able to say.
So the thing Im trying to say with this is that I think I can handle it with out getting drunk every time. i really dont want to be an addict again. (I think the thing with DXM had allot to do with the fact that I took a pain med before the last time and I was on a long but weak first pletau high for 2 weeks and that pretty much built up the addiction I had after it stopped. Cause it was like taking a little does every day for 4 weeks with out even wanting it. So yes I was addicten and I really got nervous every time I thought about it. Im glad its over now though im only stuck with the snowy vison now but Im sure thatll fade soon too )
I am not gonna rewin my life with drugs id much rather live my life with frineds and be a heart breaker. The other thread I made "Do you belive that everyone has a destony or is everything open" I still can answer that all the way but Im pretty sure your able to change and that change is part of your destony if you really want it to be.

Well Im gonna start only driunnking on partys again and not drink before meeeting new people I got what I wanted why break it?

 

[SteeleyJ]

I would say people that suffer from anxiety would be more succeptable to alcoholism and drug addiction. I'd put money that if you did a poll on here they would be a majority that has some form of anxiety / depression. You're probably still going to drink for anxiety so just watch yourself..... if you feel you are drinking too much you need to pay attention. Alcoholism has detroyed many peoples lives.

 

[SteeleyJ]

Drinking at a party is okay, shit it's normal. And not drinking before meeting people is good too man, why ruin it.... you want people to get to know the real you. Keep that standard and you'll be okay

 

[Renz Envy]

Where I live, millions of 21+ year olds are alcoholics and don't even realize it.

Take a shot before work
Take a shot after work
Get tipsy before bed time.

and that's a moderate drinker.

I suffer anxiety and went through an alcoholic phase to where I would never be sober. Just realize that even though society holds alcohol as a wonderful thing, it's really just a VERY negative drug. People say and do things that are absolutely horrible while under the influence. I say that meth an alcohol are competing to be the devil's drug.

I support your choice to drink responsibly. Bluelight is a community of people that have been enlightened by the delights of other substances other than alcohol, therefore many of us will look down on it.

 

[lars90]

Where I live, millions of 21+ year olds are alcoholics and don't even realize it.

Take a shot before work
Take a shot after work
Get tipsy before bed time.

and that's a moderate drinker.

I suffer anxiety and went through an alcoholic phase to where I would never be sober. Just realize that even though society holds alcohol as a wonderful thing, it's really just a VERY negative drug. People say and do things that are absolutely horrible while under the influence. I say that meth an alcohol are competing to be the devil's drug.

I support your choice to drink responsibly. Bluelight is a community of people that have been enlightened by the delights of other substances other than alcohol, therefore many of us will look down on it.

Haha I think everybody that had to do with a drug and has had bad experinces would say that it is one of the most horrible drugs. Just like I would say DXM is a terrible drug. Its intresting to read everyones opinion to a drug.
You really think you would kill a sibling though if you had been using alcohol for 2 weeks straight every day if you didnt get it anymore though?
I agree that C is the most powerfull and dangerous drug in the world but alcohol is a very week drug just like weed. Its just how you use the drugs and wht kind of binger you are that make the diffrences

Drinking at a party is okay, shit it's normal. And not drinking before meeting people is good too man, why ruin it.... you want people to get to know the real you. Keep that standard and you'll be okay

The thing is jsut that I dont have qit enough self esteem all the time. Im not stong enough mentally yet. But Im growwing ^^

 

[mrflowers00]

using alcohol to meet people can turn out bad for you

 

[$linky]

You've drank to deal with your anxiety/shyness two days straight. That is certainly not the path to staying clear of addiction.


Be careful friend.

 

[K88ABY]

Its a bad reason to drink man

I shoot heroin because i dont feel "normal" in my own skin and need to put something in my body to chamge the way i feel... and thats a problem

You may see the two as being so far apart from each other that you disregard this post. And ill admit theyre in a really different ballpark in most ways

But they are the same in that it leads to always needing something to feel that +1.... eventially youll think to yourself why shouldnt i feel this much better and more confident 5, 6 , 7 days of the week??

Its a slippery slope that if i could be your age again and not have to start off smoking weed all the time to deal with myself id do anything in the world to go back and ree-do it and learn to be happy and content with myself

Just some wise words from a 24 year old junkie who wants the best for you though man.

That's a wicked post man x

 

[Ms.Martini]

i always make sure i'm on some kind of substance or drunk when i meet new people. i have really bad social anxiety. meh, i can't help it.

 

[jones-in_J]

That's a wicked post man x

Thanks, appreciate that comment