General Methadone Discussion v. Why the Hell Not?

[ohshea]

It must just be part of the recovery process. Don't get me wrong I definately have more money now and don't. Have to borrow $xx for gas to get to work or bum cigarets. It could be a lot worse.

Oh yea i know what ya mean. Not rich, not broke. Haha i drive to the train station and take the train to school everyday, a monthly pass is $30 vs driving 47 miles roundtrip w a V8 engine. Im tryin to do the little things to save cash. But as long as i can pay for the roof over my head and food in muh belly im good, got more than others and more than when i was a junkie sleepin on the bus.


I could be doing better but once i get all this little BS debts i owe to random places like doctors office and driving w out a license fine ill finally be able to save up a little better. Next semester my dental supplies are going to cost $3k O.O so im going to be living the broke college student life for awhile, but sure as hell beats livin the broke junkie life. Id rather my money go towards debts that will end up clearing up my name a bit than some fix.

 

[Welderman]

Oh yea i know what ya mean. Not rich, not broke. Haha i drive to the train station and take the train to school everyday, a monthly pass is $30 vs driving 47 miles roundtrip w a V8 engine. Im tryin to do the little things to save cash. But as long as i can pay for the roof over my head and food in muh belly im good, got more than others and more than when i was a junkie sleepin on the bus.


I could be doing better but once i get all this little BS debts i owe to random places like doctors office and driving w out a license fine ill finally be able to save up a little better. Next semester my dental supplies are going to cost $3k O.O so im going to be living the broke college student life for awhile, but sure as hell beats livin the broke junkie life. Id rather my money go towards debts that will end up clearing up my name a bit than some fix.

Right on man I mean girl or woman. I'll just stop now.

Are you gonna be a dentist? Then you could perscribe me some medicine? It will help pay off them loans.

 

[porkchops]

Then you could perscribe me some medicine? It will help pay off them loans.

For real back when it was pills pills pills anyone with numbers employed this route. Hit up a young MD, he spreads the word amongst his colleagues. These newly minted doctors want them accoutrements, but just do not have the cash flow for years.

 

[shayjaychi]

man the whole debt thing hit me in the face a week after i got clean first it was the city of chicago seizing my tax return 500 down the drain, then i get a knock at my door oh u have a summons to court for an accident from over two years ago the fucking SOB is suing me im like ok im done with this unexpected debt for a liitle bit. anywho my mdone clinic doesnt take insurance would be nice if they did though and the one i goto is small and only have the solid done luckily im on such a low dose its easy to go down by 5s ill b off in less than 3 weeks. The clinic makes life a lot easier

 

[MemphisX3]

man why didnt i try methadone YEARS ago. im doing so good atm. 2 jobs, always have money in my pocket, new apartment, shit load of new clothes, down to 160lbs



i havent felt this good probably since i was like 19, no lie, and i turned 29 just a few days ago, kinda sad but atleast im back to being happy no matter how long it took.


edit: about the debt thing....when i got the dose i liked i started thinking about it and i wont be out of debt ATLEAST until the end of the summer and thats with me living like i have nothing to my name and paying of courts and credit cards. i still ower shelby county $400 (after paying $1650) and i still owe another bum fuck town $230 (after paying $400)...i paid off my kohl's card (only $190) i still have to pay the fucking TN department of safety $250 to get my license reinstated, i owe verizon $1200 but im not too worried about them. as long as i get the CC cleared up i can finance a car and i have to pay the courts because round these parts if you dont pay fines you go to jail which really stupid if you ask me but thats how it is.

 

[Welderman]

^ your on the right track bro, it's a lot easier to pay down debt when stabilized on methadone. A lot of people especially junkies give methadone a bad rap. At least once a week I hear people in the lobby saying "man I should have just quit dope cold turkey" and the others that are listening all nod their heads and agree and say how much easier that would be. Then I say " if we could have tapered down with dope and quit we wouldn't be here at the clinic." That's why we are called addicts because we can't control ourselves. Then I give myself an epic face palm.

 

[MemphisX3]

^ your on the right track bro, it's a lot easier to pay down debt when stabilized on methadone. A lot of people especially junkies give methadone a bad rap. At least once a week I hear people in the lobby saying "man I should have just quit dope cold turkey" and the others that are listening all nod their heads and agree and say how much easier that would be. Then I say " if we could have tapered down with dope and quit we wouldn't be here at the clinic." That's why we are called addicts because we can't control ourselves. Then I give myself an epic face palm.

dude, i hear that shit all the time. imo those are obviously the people that picked up a habit and were smart enough to get help but hadnt really been down thru there as we have. like they probably never had to go thru REAL WDs....they probably had one bad day with WDs, broke down and went straight to the clinic where they remain. i get so sick of people bitching in the clinic. sunday this chick came in and there were about 15 people waiting and she just started going off about how they only want the money and how cheap it is to make methadone etc...in my head im thinking "for fucks sake lets crucify these folks for trying to make a profit, welcome to capitalist america" then she started going on about how she always has to wait and i had had enough and i said to her "you act like you have never sat for an hour, or a few hours, waiting on the dope man." she shut up pretty quick....thing is i had just walked in and i know she had been there for a minute somehow i got called right back to dose before all these people (im guessing they all had to take UA's or talk to their counselars) she was not happy about that. she started bitching at the front desk as soon as i walked back to dose. i fucking hate people like that.


i am going to ask my family doc if he will prescribe me methadone after a year of clean tests at the clinic. i am going to be on some sort of pain med the rest of my life and methadone works great so hoepfully he will agree once he sees i was commited for a year and i just need to stop spending $400 a month to obtain it. hopefully it will work out

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Yeah I'm glad I started it too. It's seriously helped give me so much stability in my life, some very very much needed stability, where I can work, have good relationships, pursue my hobbies, have some motivation and determination, etc.

The horror stories are mostly from people who totally misused the medication and fucked around, got to an outrageous dose, didn't taper right, tried to detox of a large dose, etc. For every 1 person who says how horrible it is, there are a 100 whose lives it's saved and were able to use it, get their life back, and get off.

Is it the perfect answer? No. Would being totally clean and off everything be better. Yeah, sure of course. But sometimes that's just not a present option for people, and if in the meantime, they can refrain from being on the street, hustling for cash, broke, sick, in and out of jail, risking their lives, etc, by taking methadone.. than how could anybody say it's a negative thing? People who bitch when on methadone, forget just how bad it was back when they were using.

 

[ohshea]

Right on man I mean girl or woman. I'll just stop now.

Are you gonna be a dentist? Then you could perscribe me some medicine? It will help pay off them loans.

Hahah nah im not tryin to be a dentist i just work in the lab making prosthetics (dentures, implants, retainers) from the impressions the dentists send us. Haha i remember once this lady was yappin to me about the painkiller epidemic and how to doctor prescribed her son oxycontin for getting a tooth pulld and she threw the script back at him and berated him for trying to drug her kid and that shed stick w old fashioned ibuprofen. Turned out it was only 5mg hydros...she thought it was oxycontin i guss from hearing it in the media so much. I was like wow im sure your 14 yr old son really appreciated that pullin a tooth aint no joke.

Memph: yea i wish i wouldve got on the done earlier too. I was anti methadone for awhile and i have no idea why, i just thought it wouldnt work i guess. Thank god i gave it a try for the sole reason of passing a drug test for court, and its been a total 180 ever since i decided to stick w it. Anyone else put off gettin on done cos they thought it wouldnt work for them?

Scag already anweredbmy question pretty much, i typed all this at 8am but forgot to hit post reply. I fucking hate the dumb ass conversations overheard in the clinic lobby. I feel bad for the nurses that have to be within earshot of that retarded bullshit all day. There should be a website of like "Shit Methadone Patients Say" or Dumb Shit Heard At the Clinic..

Better late than never though!

 

[OpiateGuy]

Shit it was relatively 'easy' to quit dope cold turkey (well, maybe not easy, but definitely doable).. It was not going back to it that I just couldn't do. Thanks to methadone, its now as simple as drinking a cup of water/dissolved orange pills once a day.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Here is a perfect example of the reason why methadone gets such a bad rap and all these horror stories. Look at this post from the methadone megathread in OD.

Methadone is the worst drug ever invented. I am now in post acute withdrawal symptoms after going cold turkey from 100 mgs for 5 yrs not to mention I take benzos. Do not get on this crap EVER. Heroin withdrawal is much easier compared to this. Haven't slept in week, depressed, irratible, and my eyes are so dilated it feels like im on lsd. BEWARE.

Unbelievable. People like this idiot, who do the dumbest shit ever, like cold turkey jump off of a 5 year 100mg's methadone dose, inevitable go through hell, and then turn around and blame the drug and say how horrible it is and warn people to never get on it..

I mean, come on. My response:

Why would you go cold turkey from 100mg's? See this is the kind of stuff that pisses me off. People do dumb crap like that, don't use the drug correctly, don't taper, etc, and then when they inevitably have a bad time.. they blame the drug..

No offense, but if you were foolish enough to cold turkey stop 100mg's of methadone, you deserve to feel like shit. What did you think was going to happen? That is not how you get off methadone, and people like you who don't use it correctly and don't come off correctly, give it a bad name. That's where all these horror stories come from, people doing stuff like you did.

Just complete idiocy and they fucking ruin it for the rest of us, because this is where the bad stigma attached to methadone comes from. It gets such a bad rap and people who hear you're on it look at you lime a leper, because of assholes like this who have no clue what they're doing and don't use it properly.

It's like, standing behind a horse, smacking it in the ass over and over again, pissing it off, then after it kicks you in the fucking face.. you start screaming about how horrible horses are, and how dangerous they are, and warn people never to go near them. It's not the horse, it's you being a fucking idiot that caused you to get kicked in the face.

 

[Welderman]

Hahah nah im not tryin to be a dentist i just work in the lab making prosthetics (dentures, implants, retainers) from the impressions the dentists send us. Haha i remember once this lady was yappin to me about the painkiller epidemic and how to doctor prescribed her son oxycontin for getting a tooth pulld and she threw the script back at him and berated him for trying to drug her kid and that shed stick w old fashioned ibuprofen. Turned out it was only 5mg hydros...she thought it was oxycontin i guss from hearing it in the media so much. I was like wow im sure your 14 yr old son really appreciated that pullin a tooth aint no joke.

Memph: yea i wish i wouldve got on the done earlier too. I was anti methadone for awhile and i have no idea why, i just thought it wouldnt work i guess. Thank god i gave it a try for the sole reason of passing a drug test for court, and its been a total 180 ever since i decided to stick w it. Anyone else put off gettin on done cos they thought it wouldnt work for them?

Scag already anweredbmy question pretty much, i typed all this at 8am but forgot to hit post reply. I fucking hate the dumb ass conversations overheard in the clinic lobby. I feel bad for the nurses that have to be within earshot of that retarded bullshit all day. There should be a website of like "Shit Methadone Patients Say" or Dumb Shit Heard At the Clinic..

Better late than never though!

I had a retainer as a young lad and I have a crown now. I wanted them to make it out of gold so I would have some bling in my grill but I definately couldn't afford that. I still owe on the regular crown that shit is expensive.

 

[MemphisX3]

Here is a perfect example of the reason why methadone gets such a bad rap and all these horror stories. Look at this post from the methadone megathread in OD.



Unbelievable. People like this idiot, who do the dumbest shit ever, like cold turkey jump off of a 5 year 100mg's methadone dose, inevitable go through hell, and then turn around and blame the drug and say how horrible it is and warn people to never get on it..

I mean, come on. My response:



Just complete idiocy and they fucking ruin it for the rest of us, because this is where the bad stigma attached to methadone comes from. It gets such a bad rap and people who hear you're on it look at you lime a leper, because of assholes like this who have no clue what they're doing and don't use it properly.

It's like, standing behind a horse, smacking it in the ass over and over again, pissing it off, then after it kicks you in the fucking face.. you start screaming about how horrible horses are, and how dangerous they are, and warn people never to go near them. It's not the horse, it's you being a fucking idiot that caused you to get kicked in the face.

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why would you just hop off of 100mg? how was he obtaining 100mg a day for 5 years? if he was getting it legit there is no doubt in my mind that whatever doctor or clinic gave it to him made him very aware about what would happen if he decided to stop cold turkey

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^^

People don't listen. They really are just retarded and think they know everything, then when it bites them in the ass, they blame everything and everyone but themselves.

 

[brutus]

Yea ive heard this from my counselor before. I know it sounds really dramatic but all they need is a signature from a higher up. I know they have to follow regulations to a tee to keep their licensing and i had a similar request when i first started but it was denied by the state, due to the fact id only been on treatment two or three months and never had a clean UA. How much longer til youre on takehomes? Looking back i dont know how the hell i dragged my ass to the clinic everyday for like 8 months. Now i get annoyed w the one day a week i have to go.

If you have cleans and have been on the program for awhile they are more likely to approve your request. The state really keeps the clinics hands tied as far as making a lot of decisions ive noticed. Another option my counselor had suggested was "guest visits," you find a clinic in the area youre travelling to and the counselors arrange for you to get dosed there. I never persued it because i was just going to vegas for the weekend so i just cut my trip short so i could be back to the clinic in time.

I'm going to taper off before the trip comes up. Fuck paying $415 a month for bupe right in their ass. I have had three clean drug screens but had a lot going on and failed two, so they took away my takehomes. I will be clean the next time they piss test me though.

 

[OpiateGuy]

Got another drug test this month (not sure when, as it is random) but then I'm moving up to 4 take homes a week.. Almost at the point where I only have to go to the clinic once a week... That'll be so nice! I've failed one drug test in my, i think 8 months, on methadone. But it was kind of necessary.. I had the flu and was throwing up all day/night and had to take my dose in the morning (didn't really have a choice, I had to take it that morning use i didnt have a take home) and then the day after I had thrown up my dose about 5-6 minutes after leaving the clinic, my car had a fucking flat tire and I missed my dose that day... Needless to say, I was pretty sick around noon (clinic closes at 1030).. So, I went and copped a half a jab.. Well, that half jab only kept me well until about midnight. Went to the clinic the next day sick, but also had to take a drug test... When I saw my counselor she looked at my logs and saw that everything I said was corroborated by the logs, so she just said, alright, I'm not gonna take away your take homes, but I'm gonna delay giving you another take home for this month, if you drop next month clean, you'll continue upping your take homes like normal, and since then I've been on the straight and narrow (minus taking benzos once or twice, and snorted a few lines of coke at a bar once, but never failed a drug test due to those few instances)..

Methadone has seriously been a saving grace. I am so lucky it works so well for me.. Suboxone never did anything for the cravings (which was my whole problem, it wasn't just the fact i was sick, the fiending is what drove me to go cop, so even thogh suboxone kept me well, my junkie mind was still going 90-nothing fiending for dope... thankfully methadone completely puts an end to that)

 

[ohshea]

Welder: did you have one of those retainers w a fake tooth on it? I had one because im missing my left lateral incisor and it was a fake lilttle toith on a retainer. I got it when i was 13 cos i couldnt get my implant til 15 and i begged my mom for a silver tooth cos i wanted blingbling so bad. I had gold braves when i was younger they were fuckin ugly but i had to have them. Thank god my mom never budged on the silver tooth thing, i dont know why i wanted silver instead of gold. They rarely use gold anymore since the price as skyrocketed as of late.

Here is a perfect example of the reason why methadone gets such a bad rap and all these horror stories. Look at this post from the methadone megathread in OD.



Unbelievable. People like this idiot, who do the dumbest shit ever, like cold turkey jump off of a 5 year 100mg's methadone dose, inevitable go through hell, and then turn around and blame the drug and say how horrible it is and warn people to never get on it..

I mean, come on. My response:



Just complete idiocy and they fucking ruin it for the rest of us, because this is where the bad stigma attached to methadone comes from. It gets such a bad rap and people who hear you're on it look at you lime a leper, because of assholes like this who have no clue what they're doing and don't use it properly.

It's like, standing behind a horse, smacking it in the ass over and over again, pissing it off, then after it kicks you in the fucking face.. you start screaming about how horrible horses are, and how dangerous they are, and warn people never to go near them. It's not the horse, it's you being a fucking idiot that caused you to get kicked in the face.

I like the dudes screen name "methadone sux".

 

[Welderman]

It was not a retainer with a tooth on it , I got it after my braces came off.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

I like the dudes screen name "methadone sux".

Ha right? So he only signed up for BL to talk shit about methadone. Every post he's made has been anti-methadone, his very username is anti-methadone, hah it's retarded. But whatever.. the more he posts the dumber he looks.

 

[porkchops]

Dude does seem a little fixated, however I try and extract the positive from a person's view. Some people jump at the methadone just to save themselves from a couple unpleasant days.

Is anyone actually happy being on methadone?