General Heroin Discussion #18 - v. Stupidity ain't no badge of honor

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I just went through 10 bundles in the past 5 days. My habit is starting to get out of control I can't fund this shit at this pace

If you are doing 2 bundles a day then you are doing it wrong. Redosing is hardly effective and just makes you run through your dope and jack up your tolerance without getting you that much higher. After the first hour doing anymore dope never got me a better high, so best bet is to do enough to get high in the first hour and then use a bag here and there to keep the sick away until the next day. Or better yet take a tolerance break.
 
Im not sure about that id do like 3 bags then 3 more nod out for bout 2 hours then if I didnt do anymore bags I'd start gettin back to normal so then I would do 3 more bags and I would be rip roaring high for 2+3 more hours,but thats just me.
 
If you are doing 2 bundles a day then you are doing it wrong. Redosing is hardly effective and just makes you run through your dope and jack up your tolerance without getting you that much higher. After the first hour doing anymore dope never got me a better high, so best bet is to do enough to get high in the first hour and then use a bag here and there to keep the sick away until the next day. Or better yet take a tolerance break.

Yeah, I agree, but what happens realistically, to a lot of us...We go through whatever we have on hand, whether or not we even need those 3 extra bags!

Tomatilli, with your age and how long you've been using, there's no way you need that much dope...You're fuckin yourself in the longterm here....Try to have some self control, you can cut it back and still get high at this point...Although, in the time I've read Tommy's posts, he has a little more self control than your average junkie, but he speaks the truth from his own experience... I'd take his advice...
 
Im not sure about that id do like 3 bags then 3 more nod out for bout 2 hours then if I didnt do anymore bags I'd start gettin back to normal so then I would do 3 more bags and I would be rip roaring high for 2+3 more hours,but thats just me.

I mean if you go back to normal after the first high then you can get high again later on, but IME if I'm high I won't really get any higher if I continue taking more an hour or so into the high. I can get higher from dosing more within an hour of the first dose, but then when I'm high I'm not getting any higher by continuing to do bags on bags on bags. I've had times where I literally double the dose that I got high from an hour before and it didn't get me any higher.

Like I did 2 bags and got high, then another bag 30mins later and got a little higher, but one I peaked on that dose I didn't feel anything more from doing another bag every 40minutes of so after that, so the 3 bags I did in the first hour got me high, then I did another 3-4 throughout the next 3 hours or so and it didn't do jack for me.

On the other hand, I can do 2-3 bags in the morning, and then after it wears off I can do another 2-3 bags like 7 hours later and get high again, but that only seems to work well if it's mostly worn off by the time I dose again. If I did 3 bags of fire dope that had me really high then redoing later wouldn't do anything extra for me. I would have to take a nap to reset my brain first in order to get high again after that, and even then it only seems to work if I'm back to normal and not still a little high.

Another example would be like the morning after getting really high the night before. If I got high enough to be nodding all night and am on like 5 hours of sleep and still feel the dope a bit, then I'm not going to get a nice high again until I fully sleep it off or maybe wait until that night. So that's kinda the same as getting really high on the morning or afternoon and then trying to piggyback off of that throughout the rest of the day. It's just always been a waste for me.
 
This shit is weird it has such a strong scent and taste, it legit burns the back of my throat when I sniff it , it's pretty damn good though.
yeah ive been gettin somethin like that it looied like tar almost when I mixed it it then turns a beautful dark amber color,and it kicks ass,so its,all good.
 
two weeks ago I picked up 5 bundles. figured they'd last, well, maybe not quite a week. a day and a fucking half. fucking pathetic. so without anymore cash, I scrounge a dilaudid script from my pain doc. supposed to last 3 weeks. fuck, i tried... I really did. Didn't even make it a week.

Reinstated at the methadone clinic this AM.

LOSER.

Oh, I forgot: kill me, ok?
 
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Sounds like me back in the 'good' ol' days. lmao.

I couldn't make dope last for the life of me. Either, I did so much to the point where I would nod out, or I'd finish it all off and be pissed about it next morning.
 
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two weeks ago I picked up 5 bundles. figured they'd last, well, maybe not quite a week. a day and a fucking half. fucking pathetic. so without anymore cash, I scrounge a dilaudid script from my pain doc. supposed to last 3 weeks. fuck, i tried... I really did. Didn't even make it a week.

Reinstated at the methadone clinic this AM.

LOSER.

Oh, I forgot: kill me, ok?

Why's that make you a loser, man? Don't be so hard on yourself. It's addiction. It's not easy.. we all go through it.

Stay on the methadone and work that program.
 
If you are doing 2 bundles a day then you are doing it wrong. Redosing is hardly effective and just makes you run through your dope and jack up your tolerance without getting you that much higher. After the first hour doing anymore dope never got me a better high, so best bet is to do enough to get high in the first hour and then use a bag here and there to keep the sick away until the next day. Or better yet take a tolerance break.

Yeah I'm gonna start doing that that's a good idea.
 
^It's not easy man...try to just do a bundle a day no matter what....I feel stupid saying that, because it's never worked for me...

I will say, I've had long periods where I was doing the amount everyday...It seems like there's certain points where you're able to not keep going up...It's when you're spending a fortune and not even getting high anymore when the real fun begins!
 
I knew it was time to take a break when it became work to try and get high. Getting high is supposed to be fun in my book once it becomes like work I no longer enjoy it and know its time to quit for a while.
 
For me, it was pretty pointless taking another shot unless I waited a good 5 hours or so.. I mean, I'd feel it... but not worth it enough. After 6 hours or so, I could take another blast and still get pretty rocked so I never waited much longer then that unless I was physically unable to get high right then.

The time when my habit was one of the biggest, before I went into detox the last time, I had a lot of money and I was doing 4-5 bundles a day of NJ dope.. it was such a waste. I was shooting up so often everyday that I would really only feel the first shot and the rest where all wastes of a shit load of dope.

I was enjoying it more, when I was only doing a bundle a day, and actually feeling the rushes hard. When you saturate your body with that much dope, just bundles and bundles a day, you just become over loaded and barely feel the shots.
 
2 bundles a day doesnt mean you are doing anything wrong. it just means you have as screaming habit or your dope is whack ass shit. at my worst I had a bundle + habit but could have easily been more but money wassnt there. even when I use now ill pick up a bundle and play it out throughout the night - usually going .4/.2/.2/.2/.2 - or just .4/.4/.4 - all depends if I grabbed a rock or 3 40's for the usual, etc. and then of course always depends on connect. I always start with .4... even when i was at my worst... i just wanted to feel it and be safe.

alot of people could have much higher tolerances if having the cash. its unfortunate i ran into some cash at one point and had that tolerance sky rocket. then once reality set and i was broke off my ass, that tolerance i built always had me dead. even to this day i use by the nodding and all faded. i feel good.. dont get me wrong.. but not what i remember of could afford, or why i spend money. needa get me head on straight and go down that clean road again. even a few months on suboxone and ill be happy. tough with work and all. i cannot afford to take time off and all that bullshit... i needa get clean but without time off cuz the money is what i need for the apartment, car, phone, etc. i also for my own insurance since my company does not. pain in the ass.
 
No tommy boys right I like to be high the entire day but I can't keep doing that it really does jack my tolerance up and it's a waste I have no self control though.
 
Yeah, shit starts to get expensive and before you know it, you're blowing through every cent you have before the week even ends, plus having to hustle to to come up with cash for the remaining few days. Horrible cycle.

Already there man I spend all of my money on dope every scent I get, I'm starting to sell all my shit on eBay right now...Jesus what will my habit be when I'm in my 20s and hopefully have a decent job
 
Already there man I spend all of my money on dope every scent I get, I'm starting to sell all my shit on eBay right now...Jesus what will my habit be when I'm in my 20s and hopefully have a decent job

Youre going to regret selling all that shit trust me. I know people try to justify it by saying its just material things but theyre not worth trading for a few hours of pleasure. I sold an audi A6 with 20k miles on it in 2010. Biggest regret, or at least its way up there w dropping out of uni altho im reenrolled now.. Wish I never sold all my jewelry, cars, traded computers and ipods and clothes. Whatever i posessed i traded and put in my arm. Ugh.
 
Is anyone else's methadone clinic open on Sunday morning? It wouldn't be so bad if it was open a little longer but 7-9 am fuck me. It's not like Ill be sleeping in anyway because the dose don't hold me yet. I'm done bitching it's still better then doing dope.
 
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