General Heroin Discussion #18 - v. Stupidity ain't no badge of honor

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Go to the hoods around Vegas where it's mostly Mexicans or blacks and walk around till to somone calls you over
 
I know a few people like that too. They would be like don't to do dope, dope is disgusting and dirty I do Oxys cus you know what I'll get every time, this same dude smokes Oxys. Go right ahead and smoke your Oxy you fuckin retard I guarantee that's worse for you than what ever is in dope.
 
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I don't know if I've said this before but one of my friends that is trying to get clean now was introduced to heroin by his cousin when he was 12-13 years old I find that extremely fucked up his cousin would just give it to him for free. Eventually he got a mental addiction to it and started seeking out and doing pills on his own and then once that was to expensive went to heroin again. This kid is only 18 years old and has been addicted to strong opiates for 1/3 of his life it's pretty sad IMO
 
Fuckkk just did my 8th bag not that long ago I'm not at all where I wanna be I shoulda saved those 2 from last night but I was starting to feel shitty and I wouldn't have been able to sleep if didn't do a bag or too. Really thinking about trying the needle again deep down I know I shouldn't tho idk
 
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^ at least you keep telling us your thinking of using a needle. That means we still have a chance to talk you out of it. You need to take a break for a few days to drop your tolerance. It's easier said then done.
 
tomatalli said:
Fuckkk just did my 8th bag not that long ago I'm not at all where I wanna be I shoulda saved those 2 from last night but I was starting to feel shitty and I wouldn't have been able to sleep if didn't do a bag or too. Really thinking about trying the needle again deep down I know I shouldn't tho idk
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Try to start holding out as long as you can in the morning before your first dose, and in between doses during the day. For a junkie, it is 1000x easier to deal with being sick, when you know you have dope sitting there, that you can use anytime, you know what I mean? Because you're not bugging about.. "Oh i'm sick, have no money, my dealer isn't around, or I gotta go cop" nothin like that. You have the dope. It's there. So, you can relax you know? You will be able to wait much longer until you are actually really sick than if you had no dope.

So, push it to the max you know? That's what I would try to do if I was rationing. I would wait as long as I possibly could in between doses, and if you can manage to stretch it an extra 3 hours or so from when you normally dose.. every time, it adds up and you save a lot of dope. Also, when you finally do dose, it feels 10x better.
 
tomatalli said:
I'm gonna end up going [to a methadone program] eventually, when that is I don't know ..... I mix benzos a lot and that's exactly what happened Friday I was really really fucked up off xanax
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Tomatalli, what's it going to take to get you to a clinic? Another OD? It doesn't have to get to that point. I've known a few addicts who had sincere intentions of getting on methadone maintenance but continued using benzos and heroin and ended up dead. What's keeping you from going to the methadone clinic?
 
tomatalli said:
I know a few people like that too. They would be like don't to do dope, dope is disgusting and dirty I do Oxys cus you know what I'll get every time, this same dude smokes Oxys. Go right ahead and smoke your Oxy you fuckin retard I guarantee that's worse for you than what ever is in dope.
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If you smoke pills, you have lost the right to be judgmental of anyone else's drug use.

I've honestly never met someone who smoked any pill. I know there are a lot of idiots out there who smoke roxi 30s and smoked the old OCs, some have probably been dumb enough to smoke OPs. Its not even worth telling them how stupid they are. You can ream them out for being idiots, they will still just stick to their ignoramus beliefs.
 
Tomatilla, it sounds like your going to have to run some more. You're too up in the air about two major factors in your addiction cycle. To use the needle and mmt.
If you quit now you would(I would) have that voice nagging you and eventually relapse.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think fuckin think so.
 
On that Oxy express documentary, the kid that was going around showing the lady how to doctor shop kept smoking Roxy 30's off foil and making a trail as it melted, like people do with BTH...The guy in that documentary was doing dozens of blues everyday, maybe he was just smoking them for shits and giggles because he had access to so many of them, and then popping another 3 on top of it....

That was the first I'd ever seen anyone put a whole pill down on foil, melt the thing and inhale the fumes! It must do something for you, because people wouldn't do it otherwise, but it seems ridiculous to me!
 
BlueHues said:
On that Oxy express documentary, the kid that was going around showing the lady how to doctor shop kept smoking Roxy 30's off foil and making a trail as it melted, like people do with BTH...The guy in that documentary was doing dozens of blues everyday, maybe he was just smoking them for shits and giggles because he had access to so many of them, and then popping another 3 on top of it....

That was the first I'd ever seen anyone put a whole pill down on foil, melt the thing and inhale the fumes! It must do something for you, because people wouldn't do it otherwise, but it seems ridiculous to me!
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I was living down in FL doring the pill mill days and the only time we would smoke the pills was when we were already realy deep off bangen or snorten a lot of them and already realy high...sometimes smoking one would take you to your peak or give you that nod for a couple mins....But if I only had 5 blues for that day....they would all be shot. The high from smoking them is very short....I look back on those days and think wtf was I doing.....but.....there was sooo many blues and opanas and dillies that it realy didn't matter. I was 17-18 at the time and didn't realy know any better.....Its fucking crazy how expensive those stupid pills are now...Heroin made its first appearance in my city in 2010(atleast noticeably present)...and I haven't looked back on blues since....kids are payen 35$ for 30s when u can get your mind rite with h for so much cheaper...but im not tellen yall anything you don't know.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
Try to start holding out as long as you can in the morning before your first dose, and in between doses during the day. For a junkie, it is 1000x easier to deal with being sick, when you know you have dope sitting there, that you can use anytime, you know what I mean? Because you're not bugging about.. "Oh i'm sick, have no money, my dealer isn't around, or I gotta go cop" nothin like that. You have the dope. It's there. So, you can relax you know? You will be able to wait much longer until you are actually really sick than if you had no dope.

So, push it to the max you know? That's what I would try to do if I was rationing. I would wait as long as I possibly could in between doses, and if you can manage to stretch it an extra 3 hours or so from when you normally dose.. every time, it adds up and you save a lot of dope. Also, when you finally do dose, it feels 10x better.
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With me though, it's easier to convince myself that I'm sick when I've got it there and am telling myself I need to wait until I'm sick to do it. Then it's like F it, I'll do it now and worry about the rest later. So for me, it's best to just leave it at home and go out for a while to get my mind off of it. That's the same with subs when I'm waiting until I'm sick to take them. If I were to not have them and needed to go get them I would easily be able to make it over 20-22 hours before feeling sick, but if they are on me my mind is telling me I'm sick within 16 hours, and to take them right then which has always proven to be less effective than if I were to have waited 24 hours or so to dose them.
 
bukweat said:
I'm no different than any dopefiend. I am my own worst enemy. I can talk myself out of taking the logical path and rationalize it into a category 5 shitstorm.
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My favorite is when I'm like "I've gotta quit now anyway, so I'm just going to do the rest of my dope now so that I can start that process asap." Fast-forward 20-24 hours and the sickness is telling me otherwise, so I start scheming.
 
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