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GBL Megathread 5: Germans do it better

GHB is much nicer.

You get the comfortable, everything is nice feeling for a lot longer, and if you fanct some GBL wastedness you can just mix then :)
 
Do you use more then? I have enough here to give it a go. I spew at about 2ml of G. Is GHB good for the gym aswell? Heard it was but never known how to convert.

GBL + pv is defo a winnaaarr!! %) Seems to stop the sketch & doesn't end up so messy like benzos, they just tend to make pv more abusable imo.
 
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About twice as much from the conversion I did even a little more, but be careful it comes on much slower than GBL
 
1.5ml was a nice dose for me and it was first time. I redosed another 1.5 later on, hit the spot :)
 
Would there be a big difference in terms of the ghb quality when converting a decent quality chinese gbl to ghb and german basf gbl to ghb? most of you are saying that the basf gbl is better but is it the same case when converted?
 
why does the chinese stuff smack you around more. like you go from fine to plain dead.
while basf bneeds more to blow out like that but feels better and doesnt stink as bad
 
^ That would make sense to me. Have never knowingly used 1,4b but from what I've read it generally requires higher doses and feels much rougher than GBL. That fits perfectly with my experience of shoddy batches of geebee. Varying amounts of 1,4b in the finished product sounds like a very reasonable way to explain the differing doses and effects.

lagger said:
why does the chinese stuff smack you around more. like you go from fine to plain dead.
while basf bneeds more to blow out like that but feels better and doesnt stink as bad
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I agree with your first sentence - "Chinese"/poor quality GBL does tend to be very much harder to find a sweet spot with and very much easier to accidentally overdo it and end up with KO doses. Which is why I disagree with your second statement - BASF/good quality GBL requires far less to knock you out but is also far easier to dose correctly cos the dose/response is far more linear.

Onandoff said:
Would there be a big difference in terms of the ghb quality when converting a decent quality chinese gbl to ghb and german basf gbl to ghb? most of you are saying that the basf gbl is better but is it the same case when converted?
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I couldn't say for certain but I would assume that you would end up with GHB just the same with any form of GBL as a base. Would also suspect that the concentration may differ due to varying levels of GBL present in the initial GBL... as it were. Purer GBL = more concentrated GHB, I would imagine. As in if you started with 1l of 75% pure GBL and 1l of 95% GBL and converted both using the same quantities of everything the latter product would be more concentrated than the former. Although my chemistry fail may rear its ugly head here cos I presume the conversion only works with the correct ratio of chemicals to produce the correct PH levels... Therefore I'll wind me neck in and return to pondering...
 
pontifex01 said:
SEither way I can't see how daily use of a substance which reverses your body's metabolism/production mechanism of a naturally occurring, important substance in your body can be good for you.
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Can you clarify what this means? What substance does GHB reverse the production of?
 
I've started taking the gbl in 00 gel caps. Each holds about .75-.85ml i think. I drop about two of those with water or other drinks and it works so good and I don't even have to taste it. Completly covering that nasty smell. It does seem to hit me slightly slower too. One thing that worries tho... since the gel caps open up in my stomach and straight gbl comes out wouldnt it damange my stomach more in the long term?
 
The hydrochloric acid that's naturally sloshing around your tum-tum seems to be pretty harmless. Would make a bit more of a mess of your skin if you got it on you than GBL ever would, I suspect. Stomach lining is designed to deal with highly corrosive chems and GBL isn't that bad in comparison. Especially when it's only ever a ml or two - just a drop of a slightly less acidic acid in a pool of properly acidic acid really. Wouldn't go swigging it neat from the bottle but in gel caps it should be fine :)
 
No need to worry if you're taking it with water, as the water/stomach juice will dilute it.
Stomach acid is not particularly strong and will not burn skin if washed off in a timely manner.
Like GBL it will damage mucous membranes like the tongue and oesophagus though. (Think about vomiting).
GBL isn't harmful because it's acidic (it isn't very), I believe it burns through the same mechanism that ethanol does. Otherwise eating a lemon would hurt!
 
A weird thing keeps happening after my last few stim sessions. Ill take a K/O dose of GBL, go to bed, then a couple of hours later I will wake up and find that I am kicking my legs. Like up and down in a very loud fashion.
wtf is this?
 
That would be the G-Shocks/G-Spasms. Very common (even unavoidable) if you take KO doses. No idea if they are dangerous but if anyone sees you like that they tend to call an ambulance cos it looks for all the world like you're fitting. Think there are even vidz on PooToob of people filmed spazzing out whilst unconscious. It's not pretty but whether or not it's harmful (or a sign of damage being caused) I have no idea. But don't think it is, personally. Just looks very messy.
 
aha I forgot about that video. Does anyone have the spazzing video where some guy has taken his dog for a walk, starts spazzing and it starts humping him?
 
Shambles said:
I would recommend avoiding KO doses completely really. Just seem to cause way more trouble than their limited value is worth. Shortcut to addiction, chronic insomnia and horrible tolerance issues at least.
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Yea, Ill just take a slightly above recreational dose. Cheers
So its not an actual fit then? Because everytime its happened, Ive been on my stomach, the top of my body perfectly normal, with my legs just swinging up and down in a very uniform and precise manner.
For a few seconds after waking up I don't even realise Im doing it.
 
FlippingTop said:
aha I forgot about that video. Does anyone have the spazzing video where some guy has taken his dog for a walk, starts spazzing and it starts humping him?
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lol seen that video but i wasnt aware that it was his dog lol. There was a link in one of the megathreads or withdrawl threads I think.
 
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goku4ever said:
Yea, Ill just take a slightly above recreational dose. Cheers
So its not an actual fit then? Because everytime its happened, Ive been on my stomach, the top of my body perfectly normal, with my legs just swinging up and down in a very uniform and precise manner.
For a few seconds after waking up I don't even realise Im doing it.
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Not a fit as such. Well... myclonic seizures, I believe. But not exactly Grande Mal territory. You'll survive :)

But may I ask what the point of taking above recreational doses could possibly be? Above recreational doses are KO doses. Unless I'm missing something somewhere...
 
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