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GBL Megathread 5: Germans do it better

It does decrease the anxiety and guilt. The physical symptoms (nausea, headache) don't seem to be affected for me.

This isn't the first time I've noticed decreased effects on a hangover. Weird that it's just me, thought there might be a physical explanation. Perhaps a simple explanation is that the hangover is so bad that the G just counteracts it, and feeling good with a hangover is too much to ask.

Dealing with BL on a hangover is the worst!! At least these days I don't seem to pick fights online as much as I used to.

The one thing I'll say for hangovers over comedowns is that they only last a day (or two). I can get drunk on a Friday night and know I'll be fine for work on Monday -- not the case with stims. Stims fuck me up for a whole week.
 
I find precisely the opposite :D

Hangovers last 2-3 days for me. And they ain't nice days at all. I really don't get comedowns from any other drug I can think of (except mephedrone) offhand. Tiredness is about it really. Fine after a bit of kip.
 
The anxiety lasts 2-3 days, but the full grimness is over in a day for me. I remember a psychiatrist once telling me he'd be very concerned about my anxiety levels if it wasn't alcohol induced. Which sounds short sighted, but actually I have naturally very low anxiety levels. Lucky me I guess. Getting worse the longer I use G.

I do suffer horrendous comedowns from stims. Benzos make them 10 times worse (I mean taking a benzo to help the comedown -- not continued use, which I've never tried for obvious reasons). I can function on a stim comedown though, I can't function with a hangover.
 
I used to be able to function on hangovers. Never even got hangovers until I got into me 30s really. Man they hit hard once they finally hit :(:!:\

I don't find extended GBL use especially helpful for anxety but for acute anxiety (which would be more my probem if I could be said to have an anxiety problem at all) it is truly unbeatable <3

Problem I had with geebee is that it was rarely enough. Always felt the need to partner it up with summat if at all possible. If nothing else was available then booze it was :|
 
This has rapidly become a firm favourite chez knock. When the sweet spot is hit, I dash about in a chaotic bliss (or is it a blissful chaos? not sure), doing not very much very quickly (or maybe doing lots very slowly), with a glint in my eye. Singing tunelessly along with the music and squirming randomly about has become pastime de jour. It has my vote :)
 
I haven't noticed any negative effect on sleep; if I dose into knock-out territory (which is at least once in a session, so far) I don't have any problem getting back to sleep once I come to. In fact so far it's been beneficial in helping me get to sleep at a reasonable hour. But I'm not dosing round the clock, just a couple of times before going to bed.
 
knock said:
I haven't noticed any negative effect on sleep; if I dose into knock-out territory (which is at least once in a session, so far) I don't have any problem getting back to sleep once I come to. In fact so far it's been beneficial in helping me get to sleep at a reasonable hour. But I'm not dosing round the clock, just a couple of times before going to bed.
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Don't count on it staying this way. It was like this for me for a long time of fairly heavy evening use. At worst I'd wake up feeling buzzed and tingling, and be awake for 30 mins before I could sleep again.

It's not like that anymore though. It's now impossible to sleep at all without redosing. Luckily I can still sleep for about 4 hours after a dose.

I feel like hell when I'm not on it.

I need to stop before this gets even more out of hand and ruins my life. It's been an under control habit for months but it's spiralled in the last 6 weeks. I don't know how to stop though, the withdrawals are awful and I just can't seem to stop myself redosing. I can't bring myself to use benzos -- I'm sure a benzo addiction is worse than a G addiction. If I pour it away I'm scared I'll just start drinking again -- again, I'd rather be addicted to G than drinking all the time.

I know I just need to stop but it all seems so hopeless at the moment. I'm so scared and lonely, I feel like I've got nowhere to turn. Things seem to have gone from 0 to shit in no time at all.
 
^ GBL/GHB Addiction & Withdrawal Thread may be of interest to you. That one is archived but the next one has barely any posts in yet so that's the one you want for most info. Current thread here for anybody who wants to give it a damn good bumping.

I never found it particulary hard to stop geebee even when dosing 24/7 for months at a stretch. I definitely did notice it got more difficult over the years though. For me it was never more than a simple taper down when the bottle was nearing the end and was strung out to fuck. I just tapered and left it a while before buying a new bottle. I do seem to be in the minority on this though cos I know many people go through hell trying to get off the stuff. FWIW, several folk here have had severe GBL addictions in the past but no longer do. Is definitely eminently doable.

Hope you're feeling better soon - hopeless, scared and lonely is not good at all :(<3
 
I was upset last night and overstated things quite badly. I've been doing it 24/7 for only a few days! It's just freaking me out because I can feel it getting away from me and I could easily see this becoming a major problem. I was feeling really shitty last night though and don't feel so bad this morning. More ill but less fucked in the head.

Got up and redosed at 3am last night, but didn't take enough to knock myself out. Hoped that jsut taking the edge off would chill me out enough to sleep. Nope. But it did take the edge off enough for me to spend much of the whole night reading a cheesy paperback feeling quite chirpy. Then remembering that I only felt chirpy because of G, then feeling shit again.

I'm off to work now. I feel pretty rough, but if I call in sick I can absolutely guarantee I'll spend all day taking G, which'll not help matters.

[edit] -- Aaand, work was fine. I felt bad all day, but not as bad as a hangover would make me feel. I feel like a twat for making such a melodramatic post last night -- I think even a few days of constant use can put you in a pretty bad head place, but I realise posts like that are probably irritating to people who have been through (or are going through) proper GBL HELL. Apologies. I will attempt to grow some balls (anatomically difficult). I'm still concerned and still think I need to sort this out, but calmer now. I'll go read that thread, Shambles.

On another note -- I've noticed that my mouth is quite sore after heavy use. At first I thought it was because GBL is acidic, but I checked and it's less acidic than orange juice (and of course I don't drink it undiluted). I guess then it's an irritant in some other way? I'm wondering if it's ripping the enamel off my teeth (I've no reason to think it is, but is it?) or doing any long term damage to stuff other than my brain. Anyone know?
 
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Used the last of my bottle last night.
Debating whether or not to get a replacement.

Find it mildly enjoyable on its own, decent for mixing with other stuff when I avoid semi-comas.
Frivolous spending? Perhaps.
 
Sorry if I am being slack... But is GBL still available in small amounts to buy form vendors? I am not trying to source here I am just wondering the legality of this all before I get myself into shit... I have read through this thread a bit and still haven't found any real answers after about 5 pages...
 
As far as I know it's not available from UK vendors, no. That doesn't mean people in the UK don't order it from abroad ;) It's a controlled substance in the UK so sale is prohibited.

release said:
GHB and GBL are Class C, schedule 4(1) drugs. It is illegal to possess, supply or produce this drug.
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Although that may not be strictly accurate:

government said:
7.7 Despite being designated using the 2009 Designation Order, GBL and 1,4-BD
are not inserted into any Schedule to the 2001 Regulations because of their widespread legitimate
uses (for example, in nail polish, paints and as a food flavouring). Regulation 3 of the 2009
Regulations instead makes it lawful to import, export, produce, supply, offer to supply or
possess these substances except where a person does so knowing or believing that they will
be used for the purpose of human ingestion other than as a flavouring in food (so that these
substances can continue to be used as food flavouring by legitimate producers and available
in minute quantities in certain foodstuffs such as dairy products).
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It seemed to reach me without any problems. People are getting controlled drugs from abroad all the time.

edit: although yeah, it makes sense that a 0.5 litre bottle of liquid would be more likely to attract suspicion than a letter with a gram of powder concealed in a bit of card. Clearly the dice sometimes rolls in my favour :D
 
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