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GBL Megathread 5: Germans do it better

Looking forward to this, fell in love with ghb after trying it a few weeks ago and gonna get a little bit soon! Not enough for a habit though, 24/7 dosing gbl was torture, only sleeping 23 hours at a time before jolting awake.. So much nicer than gbl the powder i found though, more benign and euphoric for me, if only for the fact that it doesn't have that awful taste and is harder to k.o on. Whats the shelf life of a ghb solution? And am i right in thinking that caustic soda is just pure sodium hydroxide without any contaminants? So i could use this in the place of pure naoh?

edit: Also is potassium much better for your body or does it not make a huge difference?
 
How dangerous is combining alcohol and GBL, relatively speaking? I had a beer tonight after some G earlier, and another 0.5ml of G after the beer, and I have a lovely great warm buzz going on. Really nice, like the best of both.

Given that I do occasionally accidentally KO on GBL, and alcohol in large amounts totally compromises my judgement, would it be a Very Bad Thing to habitually mix the two? Say, add a couple of rum & cokes to an evening of moderate G use?
 
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I almost always drank heavily whilst dosing Guice 24/7. Not big nor clever. But still very much alive...

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But that doesn't make it safe for others. Nor me. Is probably less than wise to combine the two habitually. Or even occasionally.

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But I do/did.
 
A mate stupidly did 3 or 4ml after drinking a half of whiskey a few years ago, he was circling the drain for a while hbad stopped breathing and the lot but he pulled through with no after-effects, managed to get him an ambulance before he stopped, so its massively advised against, that said though keep both the doses low and you shouldnt have any problem, i've mixed it plenty of times, once or twice not very responsibly but the worse thats ever happened is i've gone to sleep in the middle of a street, the curve-response line is mental with the stuff
 
3-4ml is a helluva silly dose even without the whisky tbh, CK. I wouldn't go that high even when dosing round the clock let alone as a one off. Glad he's okay... but is stuff like that that gives G a bad name really :\

Ya. Is not wise to mix with booze. Know your limits and all that is all I can say on the matter without being hypocritical. And steer clear if not sure. Is one of those combos that goes just dandy everytime... except the one it doesn't. And not all get to try that one a second time :|
 
Hmmm. That's more or less what I figured -- potentially very dangerous.

Perhaps one to steer clear of then. I'm not stupid (except stupid horny and stupid hungry) on G, but I *am* stupid and irresponsible and brainless on booze. I probably just got lucky with the effects this one time too, as booze doesn't always make me feel good.

I'll try to pass on this combo. Thanks for the info guys.
 
I've never seen anything but negative consequences when mixing with alcohol.
 
angelsmoke said:
How dangerous is combining alcohol and GBL, relatively speaking? I had a beer tonight after some G earlier, and another 0.5ml of G after the beer, and I have a lovely great warm buzz going on. Really nice, like the best of both.

Given that I do occasionally accidentally KO on GBL, and alcohol in large amounts totally compromises my judgement, would it be a Very Bad Thing to habitually mix the two? Say, add a couple of rum & cokes to an evening of moderate G use?
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Has the potential to end really badly depending on the exact doses and your tolerance.

Personally I often took a dose of ghb, and after the effects peaked drank a few beers without any problems.
 
Yeah perhaps I should add, it can definitely be done safely, but I've personally never seen it happen. It seems that the safest way to do it is to drink after G, not the other way around.
 
Been told to avoid mixing GBL with opiates.
I had some poppy tea last night and I'm still feeling the effects slightly. Should I avoid GBL tonight?
 
Opies potentiate the living shit outta geeb ime, Munroe. Can be combined but you seriously need to watch your doses. Even just codeine + geeb has sent me spinning, head bouncing off the keyboard and such. And that was with low dosing of geeb back when I volunteered at a 'puter place during the day and used geeb to keep me perky. Was far from perky when I tried that after getting me script in 8o

From a HR standpoint, yes you should avoid GBL completely whilst on opies. From a drugpig standpoint, approach with extreme caution if you must approach. Cut yer doses in half and see how it goes. Go up slowly if at all. Massive potentiation combo. And doesn't really feel entirely safe at all tbh.
 
However, I find the more gradual nature of GHB [compared to GBL] can lead you to take a double dose, because you think it's too weak, then.... 'Oh, it's 10PM and I forgot to go to my mum's for tea. Shit, she's tried to ring me 13 times, and left me five texts, as she was supposed to pick me up, and I've obviously been lay here unconscious, whilst she's hammered on the door and not known if I'm alive or not!'. Stuff like that. A lot of that. It's bad as reality sets in, after you've royally fucked something up.
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Booze isn't even close. On that note, watch out for wanting to drink more alcohol, when your G is gone. Don't increase your booze intake, afterwards. I did it, in some vain attempt to feel the same.
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So true. Completely concur with the above.

G is grim, it's likely my most loved and most hated drug at the same time. Can't really go back to it anymore, the rebound & WDs immediately start messing it up for me, even from one dose.
 
Seeing as a lot of you guys sounds like you've been addicted at one point you got any tips for not going down that path?

I trust myself to be careful and I'm good at limiting my drug intake but it would be good to get some advice.
 
Planning to use it for weekends only so that shouldn't be a problem. Gonna get myself some emergency zolpidem for when I can't sleep.
 
Yeah. Is not a problem at all kept to weekends. Or even evenings and weekends. Just don't let it creep too much. Is seriously seductive stuff once you get a taste for it. Livens you up in minutes, kills hangovers stone dead, generally makes you feel damnably chipper every time. Can get very easy to start relying on that and the odd weekend turns into weeknights turns into a lil perker in the morning turns to gotta keep going once you start or you feel a bit grotty and is so very easy to just have another lil squirt and you're back firing on all cylinders. It creeps up on ya. That's what you need to be aware of and concsiously avoid if you notice it's happening.
 
Shambles said:
Yeah. Is not a problem at all kept to weekends. Or even evenings and weekends. Just don't let it creep too much. Is seriously seductive stuff once you get a taste for it. Livens you up in minutes, kills hangovers stone dead, generally makes you feel damnably chipper every time. Can get very easy to start relying on that and the odd weekend turns into weeknights turns into a lil perker in the morning turns to gotta keep going once you start or you feel a bit grotty and is so very easy to just have another lil squirt and you're back firing on all cylinders. It creeps up on ya. That's what you need to be aware of and concsiously avoid if you notice it's happening.
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I can see why it's seductive yeah. I've even thought stuff to myself like "I could do a bit of GHB for X or Y and it would help me" etc. but have steered myself away from that way of thinking. It's lovely stuff I wouldn't want to ruin it for myself.
 
I never had a problem just using it to socialise like I would alcohol. Sadly that involved me using it quite often and I seem to have lost some of the magic I once had. Even after a three month break it doesn't seem to have returned.
 
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