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GBL Megathread 5: Germans do it better

Did 2g of GHB earlier on today (moving up from 1.5g). Felt much more intoxicated, but still not fucked. Got a bit horny though which was awkward because I was in a room with 3 guys and a dog...

Probably going for 2.25g next time. Got a feeling my sweet spot is going to be around 2.5g because 2g had more of an effect on me than I expected.

Not too fussed about passing out just don't like throwing up, it's messy.
 
If you've ever tried GBL Chesh, 1ml of GBL is supposedly equivilent to 1.1g GHB, so you should be able to calculate your sweet spot from there.

If you've not tried GBL, this post is worthless.
 
If you've ever tried GBL Chesh, 1ml of GBL is supposedly equivilent to 1.1g GHB, so you should be able to calculate your sweet spot from there.

If you've not tried GBL, this post is worthless.

I've never tried GBL. But it's not a worthless post, because I ever try GBL and I know my sweet spot for GHB this will make it easier to dose GBL.
 
I've never tried GBL. But it's not a worthless post, because I ever try GBL and I know my sweet spot for GHB this will make it easier to dose GBL.

Truesay. I read the GBL/GHB equivalency somewhere but I can't quite remember where so we could do with someone with experience of both chiming in.



EDIT: Ignore my other posts, according to this post 1ml GBL is equivilent to 1.65g NaGHB
 
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A couple of pages back in this thread too, and the GBL wiki has the information.

Whenever I've converted it, I always just added 10mls GBL to 10mls water and then just remember that 2mls = 1ml GBL so I don't have to worry about dose conversion.
 
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How much does 1/4l of gbl go for these days? Also, hope this doesnt count as synth talk, but when youvb made naghb from gbl does it taste completely salty? I've had both but never had ghb that i know has been made from gbl, jusat wondering if the horrible solvent chemical taste from gbl goes
 
No, GHB still has the taste to it. You wouldn't drink it neat but it is more tolerable.

£1/10mls was always a benchmark rate online, probably a bit more for a small amount like that.
 
It's always made from GBL, as far as I'm aware. Yes, it goes totally salty, with maybe a slight whiff of unreacted lactone, but it really doesn't taste bad, with a bit of juice. I almost like it. :)

Transform, that means it's got unreacted GBL in it. It should turn fully into GHB, so shouldn't taste anything like it. It's a totally different chemical. No?
 
Technically they are different chemicals, although "completely" is probably a bit of a stretch - they are about as close to being the same as they can be without being identical.

Speculation: any time I've done the conversion I've always found it to at least be reminiscent of GBL - there is no mistaking that taste.

This could be because of four reasons IMHO

* The taste of GBL is primarily a result of impurities and these are unchanged by the hydrolysis.
* The hydrolysis leaves unreacted GBL in the solution and this causes the taste.
* Pure GHB itself still tastes somewhat of GBL.
* When dissolving in saliva, NaGHB is converted to small amounts of GBL and this causes the taste.

Honestly I think it's a combination of all four! GHB is known to exist in equilibrium with GBL, which explains 2 and 4. There is no reason GHB would be totally tasteless so that makes 3 plausible. GBL is noted to vary in the strength of its distinctive taste, despite always being 95%+ purity. That means a minority impurity with a strong taste must be important.
 
The GHB powder I've got literally just tastes like salt. And if I mix it with OJ then it just tastes like OJ with something 'off' about it.
 
Cheers, and ghbs a hydroscopic powder right? Even the little bit i had before drank moisture like a sponge, whats the best way to get from having a pan of ghb to just the ghb powder? Or is it better to store in a liquid
 
Keep it as a liquid. Why bother drying it, just to turn it back into a liquid? Stick it in a bottle and write the dosage per ml on it.
 
Keep it as a liquid. Why bother drying it, just to turn it back into a liquid? Stick it in a bottle and write the dosage per ml on it.

Easier to smuggle into clubs. Also it makes sense to do that if you've bought it as a liquid but don't know the dosage per ml or don't trust the dealer.
 
Well, I know you can't get more than about a gramme per ml into solution, as it just turns into treacle. If you have a little dropper bottle, then it's a piece of piss to measure out a dose. If you have a bag of powder, you need to add it to a drink, in the right amount, so you'd need multiple pre-weighed baggies - or even scales with you. A dropper bottle is far easier, once you know how concentrated it is.
 
Well, I know you can't get more than about a gramme per ml into solution, as it just turns into treacle. If you have a little dropper bottle, then it's a piece of piss to measure out a dose. If you have a bag of powder, you need to add it to a drink, in the right amount, so you'd need multiple pre-weighed baggies - or even scales with you. A dropper bottle is far easier, once you know how concentrated it is.

I'd find it easier to smuggle powder into a club because I have a pouch in about 4 pairs of my boxers to put baggies in. If I put a dropper bottle in they'd probably feel it when they frisk me, but then again they might not. I'd also rather pre weigh my doses because I wouldn't trust myself to measure a dose when fucked on GHB. Although I still haven't found my sweet spot so don't know what I'm like when fucked on GHB yet haha.

I also don't have a dropper bottle :(
 
Surely all G-taking couples have that arrangement? Would be rude to ask someone to desist just cuz you couldn't handle your dosing schedule ;)

HR disclaimer: Make sure you discuss this with your partner in crime first, could be a leeeeeeetle bit awkward otherwise :|

Kate, I <3 you haha..

Ponti, is plugged G all good? No irritation or.. anything..?

Wayne, sounds like you've got it sorted. Enjoy! :)

edit: actually, the work thing worries me <3 Not from a moral ground :P but it's a step on the path to 24/7 dosing.. which is a path you do NOT want to tread, believe me. Be rigorous in how often you can have it and what breaks are needed. The two classic danger zones (from seeing a close friend and talking to others) appear to be dosing through the day at work and redosing to get to sleep at night.. say, so you're not tired for work. Combine the two and you'll be hooked in no time, which is unpleasant to say the least. Take a gander at our addiction thread if you're tempted down the frequent redosing path.. (will find link in a sec)

v1 (more info but archived) and v2 (current) :)

Thanks, much appreciated. But I don't think I'll get into problems. I don't plan to be a frequent doser. Once I've got the hang of doses and I decide its safe to use conservatively at work I will cycle between benzos, kratom and sobriety (when it allows). And I doubt very much I'd use for sleep (I don't like the idea of waking up 3 hours into the night to have to redose). I imagine I would occasionally use it the odd night in recreation, but only when I have a night on my own, as I don't think my partner would accept me doing it, so explaining the possibility of a completely safe black-out would be a no-go).

Also, its looking increasingly unlikely I might not get to give it a go after all. The vendor (which I know I cannot name) is out of stock now. And from previous posts on this thread it seems most UK delivery vendors are in a similar position. Which is a shame, as it was going to help give me the kick up the ass needed to stop popping benzo's for the crack, particularly the times I don't really need them!
 
No one sets out with the intention of developing a habit, never mind thinking of using it at work. It drags you in quicker than you expect, so I'd keep it very moderate. Dropper bottles are about 50p off eBay. Stick it in your underwear - if they feel something hard and cylindrical, then what are they likely to do? ;)
 
Dropper bottles are about 50p off eBay. Stick it in your underwear - if they feel something hard and cylindrical, then what are they likely to do? ;)

I'll give them a little wink ;) which should put them off searching me any further.
 
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