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GBL Megathread 4: End of an Era?
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GBL is perfect with stims. I've eaten meals on speed and G. It removes whizz dick. It pretty much removes the crap effects of stims.
Tolerance, I've found, doesn't go up much even when using 24/7. If you're on a few doses a week, your tolerance shouldn't move.
It's made me have fits when in use with stimulants before but this isn't at all common. It was almost as if the gbl was 'telling' my body to pass out but the stimulants were refusing ending up in some spazzing mess on the floor. Not serious, but not pretty.
cherrycolouredfunk
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It's because the G is playing with the dopamine in your brain. Works the same way that alcohol always makes you crave a dirty burger from somewhere you would never consider eating if you were sober.
G munchies are notorious!
cherrycolouredfunk
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I get this everytime I used stimulants with G. It bothered me so much that I just quit ever combining the two. It is such a horrible feeling. I don't do G now though.
I thought it was just me!
My brain would end up in a fight with the two things I'd taken. I could almost imagine the two things together at logger heads one trying to keep me awake, the other trying to send me under. The result is indeed a spazzy foot kicking, squealing mess, almost looking like one is having a fit but not quite.
I've seen G cause seizures first hand just from G overdose alone without stims. The feeling of Stims and G is different, it would happen on a low dose with me. But, man I never want to have that feeling again. Urgh, I can even feel it just thinking about it. It's made me feel really unsettled.
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fastandbulbous
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There was heated debate in OD on that matter years ago, but since GBL becomes GHB when entering the bloodstream (GBL has a plasma half life of 3 minutes), the only difference is the rate of absorbtion from the gut (GBL is absorbed a hell of a lot faster than sodium 4-hydroxybutrate and for the same sized dose will produce a higher peak plasma level.
In other words - it's not any more dangerous to use GBL than it is to use GHB, just be prepared for it coming on faster with GBL. Some people have bought into the incorrect myths surrounding GBL & some prefer GHB as ot comes on slower & more predictability
FlippingTop
Bluelighter
So sipping on a dose of GBL over say 30 minutes will be exactly the same as necking some GHB then?
Also I have never had that problem of having fits while on stims, although now I think about it I did pass out once for a few minutes and maybe my mate was too out of it to notice I was having a mini-fit 8)
Also I have never had that problem of having fits while on stims, although now I think about it I did pass out once for a few minutes and maybe my mate was too out of it to notice I was having a mini-fit 8)
B9
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I think GHB a superior effect to GBL because of the onset speed - that said I'd rather have a host of other drugs instead.
B9
Bluelight Crew
^ Probably could be yes if it's sloppily prepped.
The geebee-greedies. If I didn't take it with speed I'd be huge.
GHB withdrawals are far easier to cope with than GBL. I'm assuming it's due to GHB not being quite as harsh on the old GABA receptors. I've had enough experience with both to make that decision. I also haven't ever had sleep paralysis from GHB, whereas GBL gave it me every night. The strange muscle and joint pains are much milder with GHB, also.
I know its metabolised by the same enzymes, but i dont see why that would also mean its bad for the liver.
I'm not sure about this tough.
Shambles
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Really heard nothing good about 1,4B so not planning to chase it up, myself. Wasn't it banned at the same time as GBL anyway?
I've no idea as i dont live in the UK, its just that ive been in trouble with GHB/GBL before so its risky for me to order GBL again.