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GBL Megathread: 3ml and Wobbling

Can anyone explain to me exactly what GBL is doing in my body?

What's this rebound dopamine thing i've read about?

Someone please explain in as much detail as possible..

Thanks.
 
^ kk will have another looks round (had a quick one - couldnt find what i was lookin for)

+ I have been diluting my GBL into plastic bottles to carry around with me (2 - 4ml in 500ml bottles) .. should i be worried about the GBL breaking down the plastic for me to then ingest.. possibly increasing my chaces of gettin cancer by 1000s? I have noticed around the inside of the neck where small amounts of pure gbl must have touched it it has kinda burnt it leaving small white marks..
 
eclipsedesign said:
Not in that dilution nope :) It's fine, I always take about 5ml in a 500ml bottle with ribena or something to save taking a pipette+bottle out with me.
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If you go to a health food store (or online, eb*y can have some savage prices) and get gelcaps (NOT vegecaps) then you can carry your G around in them safely and conveniently. I've seen a gelcap last up to a day without showing signs of dissolving. It's brilliant.

On the other hand, vegecaps start dissolving instantly. Bad news.
 
Hector said:
Also, does anyone know if opiates would help with any withdrawal symptoms? I haven't experienced any after roughly 10 days of daily use but just in case it'd be handy to know.
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Yeah, they do, but I'd stay away from them if I was going to be having bad/delerious WD's cause that's just be too risky...
 
Hector, don't worry about it. Many people have said on here, many times, that unless you're caning it - like 24/7 - you shouldn't worry. I took GBL daily for several months at a time and had no WDs when I stopped.
 
I did that, then I tried it several more times. Now a couple of days destroys me.
 
I think,or hope that my withdrawals have ceased now after 10 days.Was very bad for several days,even with benzos and alcohol.Had to cancel everything and tell everyone I had hayfever/summer flu as it wasn't till 9 days that I could function properly around people.
First day off I controlled well with medication and it went fine,second day apart from hallucinations I got off ok,but since I don't have a finite supply of meds I swapped to alcohol the 3rd day.However I also strongly suspect that its because the dopamine was making me really really crave alcohol that did it, I mean look at all the "moreish" drugs out there,the ones where just one hit more is never enough. I became like that with alcohol for 3 days.
But then every morning for the next 5 days I would wake at 8am,even if by then I should have been benzo/drink free and get worse and worse shaking/palpitating/sweating sensations and my brain was a complete jumble.I would have to have 2mg lorazepam followed by 8 shots of vodka and juice before I felt "normal",this was just so I could text or ring wherever to say why I couldn't come in.Cut my drinking/benzo use right down and managed to go to a cycling group yesterday.Cycled 4 miles and went home,had a bath,read and ate.Went to bed and slept relatively well (for me) and so far today have attended everything I had to and spoken coherently and have only had 5mg chlordiazepoxide which I ended up thinking had been unecessary.
Not a hope of affording any for a fortnight and 125ml at most even then.Don't want to buy it though.I think my time with the guice may have come to an end.4 years of use had many positives as well as negatives.
ps that is in no way shape or form 4 years constant use8o,but it was May 2005 I had my first dose.

Of course in August I'll no doubt do a turnaround and get another bottle:|
 
I find that its not an addiction to one drug but an addiction to being high. If I have coke I fiend for it until its gone, then no WD's, if there is G around I will use it almost daily until its gone just because its there, benzos, meph, even MDMA to a certain extent (as in if I have it there I will want to wake it at every party oppertunity!

Even now, because I have nothing in the house I have just cained 20mg diazapam (by the way I take back everything I said about it not being a recreational drug, even with no anxiaty problems like myself it is definatly calming and very relaxing, I am really enjoying it at the moment!)
 
Wahslab said:
I find that its not an addiction to one drug but an addiction to being high. If I have coke I fiend for it until its gone, then no WD's, if there is G around I will use it almost daily until its gone just because its there, benzos, meph, even MDMA to a certain extent (as in if I have it there I will want to wake it at every party oppertunity!

Even now, because I have nothing in the house I have just cained 20mg diazapam (by the way I take back everything I said about it not being a recreational drug, even with no anxiaty problems like myself it is definatly calming and very relaxing, I am really enjoying it at the moment!)
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That's how I feel. I can't leave drugs alone or be completely sober for an entire day. I've had a perfectly fine life -- it's certainly not as if i'm escaping anything I'm a happy chappy, I just love being high. That's the reason I do GBL quite often and ketamine, both drugs are fairly easy going even with abuse I find.

I don't hate it though. I've never had an addiction, just excessive use.

I'm fairly certain were not the only ones matey.
 
Yeh, I have no reason to excape anything, just enjoy being high and will use whatever I have around to achieve that....except the lynx....never done solvents.

Its strange though even if I want to stay sober for the day, if I know I have drugs in the house I find it incredibly hard to not take them. GBL was good for me I feel, stopped me craving being high and didn't give many / if any negative reactions. I must state at this point though that I was not taking huge volumes per day like some on here which probably explains my lack of bad reactions. I noticed Treacle earlier say that he was taking around 25ml per day, thats like over 3x what I would be taking to keep myself out of soberness (thats not a dig Treacle by the way, just putting it into perspective for people that this drug can and does have nasty side effects / WD's)
 
My guice came couple days ago. I've been caning it quite a bit. I did 5.76ml Friday and 5.85ml yestersay. This may not seem much compared to others, but I usually only have around 2ml.

To those who have had problems with guice, how much did it take to start WDs? Has anyone ever become addicted and experienced WDs without 24/7ing?
 
It might be something to do with the amount of times you use it for.I used it 90% of the days in 2007,but only once or twice a day and got no withdrawals.Its only after 24/7ing it for me personally.
There was an attached report on Erowid from a medical dr or someone about a girl in the 90's who used GHB every day to sleep for 2 years,never in the day.But by the end she was getting such severe anxiety in the day time that she went 24/7 for 6 weeks,until she finally went to hospital,went into full blown seizure/delerium and it took her 3 weeks to recover including at least one week in ICU on huge amounts of lorazepam and stuff.
Basically don't take it every day.
I'm feeling fine now nearly 2 weeks off and no urge whatsoever to take any more.Or drink alcohol.In fact I am sober!Well apart from a bit of opiate future useage.
Fucks sake I watched 2 hours of Poirot on TV yesterday because I wanted to.Had zero urge to take any form of substance.Likewise today.
Wheres my smoking jacket and slippers;)
 
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