Yeah. It's withdrawals. Stop taking it, and you'll find you return to normal.
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The_Idler
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G slows down breathing and excess movement a lot.
i would just sit or lie around.
very relaxing.
and yeah the withdrawals were bad.
bad enough for me to not buy it again.
i would just sit or lie around.
very relaxing.
and yeah the withdrawals were bad.
bad enough for me to not buy it again.
The_Idler
Bluelighter
give up and never do it again.
when i was on it i could dance and had energy yeah,
but it was also very relaxing.
when i was on it i could dance and had energy yeah,
but it was also very relaxing.
They can't prosecute you for having it but they can confiscate it if they think you're using it to get twatted. Much the same as glue.
Ours was confiscated but there were no charges. They told us if it had been in the garage and had a label on it they probably wouldn't have taken it. In fact, one of the bottles was labelled 'graffiti remover' and they left that one even though it was right next to the unlabelled ones which they took.
Hi guys,
On Saturday night I had a Balti curry (vegetarian of course
) and four hours later I had 2ml GBL. Since then, I have been shitting water. Only this morning has it stopped.
Has anyone else experienced extreme diarrhoea on GBL or with it mixed with something. I've never had it before. I hope it's the curry and not the GBL, since I love taking guice.
I experience shitty mood and a bit of a come-down after high amounts of guice (on 2ml, but not 1.75ml), are these withdrawals? I wouldn't think they were, considering I only take GBL one a night - I've never taken it around the clock.
On Saturday night I had a Balti curry (vegetarian of course
) and four hours later I had 2ml GBL. Since then, I have been shitting water. Only this morning has it stopped.Has anyone else experienced extreme diarrhoea on GBL or with it mixed with something. I've never had it before. I hope it's the curry and not the GBL, since I love taking guice.
I experience shitty mood and a bit of a come-down after high amounts of guice (on 2ml, but not 1.75ml), are these withdrawals? I wouldn't think they were, considering I only take GBL one a night - I've never taken it around the clock.
brokenbrain
Bluelighter
No they're not withdrawals.Just the side fx of high amounts of a gaba b agonist.
You'll only know withdrawals if you go through them...which I suspect you aren't going to do as your usuage appears to be controlled.
If you want to know withdrawals then take it 24/7 for a few days;at least 4,and stop at 4am with a last dose of 3ml or above.Then don't take any other medication until you want to sleep that night.At approx 7 hours you will start to experience the problems...
You'll only know withdrawals if you go through them...which I suspect you aren't going to do as your usuage appears to be controlled.
If you want to know withdrawals then take it 24/7 for a few days;at least 4,and stop at 4am with a last dose of 3ml or above.Then don't take any other medication until you want to sleep that night.At approx 7 hours you will start to experience the problems...
Shambles
Bluelight Crew
GBL does definitely loosen one's stools when used regularly, but I can't see it causing any major squits from a one-off dose. I use GBL all but daily and virtually 24/7 and not had any problems with excessive sloppypoos - is a good laxative but not that good. I'd be looking more suspiciously at the curry than the guice myself, Gezgin.
Phenibut lasts way longer than GBL, and is like tapering off, in a way. As long as you don't use it for more than a few days, and in massive doses, you'll be feeling fine within no time, and the bad moods don't seem to surface. All that stuff about sodium imbalances or whatever, I reckon is either bollocks, or has nothing to do with the withdrawal. The withdrawal is stopping a GABAB agonist. You feel OK whilst you're on it, right?
WarmRushes
Bluelight Crew
I'm in the same boat. Havn't been using G around the clock, but I've been using it a few times a week for a year and have ended up with the shitty symptoms you describe. I've decided just to stop using it for a month or 2, maybe longer. If I go back to it and it works I'll keep it once a week max and see how that goes.
Carsick
Bluelight Crew
Officially I've given it up. I haven't even been on any of the appropriate sites since I made the decision over a month ago.
Am hoping to hold out for quite some time. It doesn't do me any good. At least with vallies or other benzoes the 24x7 cycle doesn't happen.
Am hoping to hold out for quite some time. It doesn't do me any good. At least with vallies or other benzoes the 24x7 cycle doesn't happen.
brokenbrain
Bluelighter
Story of Faust,thats me and the Guice.Was off it for 2 whole weeks,which is the longest without any doses for 2 years.Came to the conclusion that once I could sleep unaided and feel ok the next day then my brain was recovered enough.Last Thursday I felt fine and had the attention span to watch 3 dvds,so declared myself recovered.Got some on Saturday,straight into 24/7 use.Attempted to see how long I could go yesterday before caving in and managed 10 hours....have not got this coming off it lark down at all.Have convinced myself that doing 7 days straight and finishing when it runs out and spending a weekend recovering and a few days more on benzo's is ok.And then going for a fortnight without.I mean last time I tried quitting 4 times in a week and only managed it when I had no more left.But could have bought some after 5 days without and didn't want to.Its all about getting through the first few days and getting some sleep.:D
4 and a half days in now and expecting to run out on Saturday morning,and will have preparations afoot for what will be coming.Just hope I can stop drinking alcohol before Monday morning or things will go very wrong.
My addiction is only controllable because I know that if I buy more than 125ml things will go much more wrong.Had thought for a while to forego GBL for 2 months,thus saving up enough for a litre,then changing that to GHB and partaking a few times a week,thus making it last for a year or more.Have had to knock that idea very much on the head as what would really happen is I would do the lot 24/7 until it got to 500ml and then pour the rest away and spend a fortnight eating codiene and benzos and sleep aids to avoid insanity.Don't want to have to pour any away,let alone 500 bastard mls.
4 and a half days in now and expecting to run out on Saturday morning,and will have preparations afoot for what will be coming.Just hope I can stop drinking alcohol before Monday morning or things will go very wrong.
My addiction is only controllable because I know that if I buy more than 125ml things will go much more wrong.Had thought for a while to forego GBL for 2 months,thus saving up enough for a litre,then changing that to GHB and partaking a few times a week,thus making it last for a year or more.Have had to knock that idea very much on the head as what would really happen is I would do the lot 24/7 until it got to 500ml and then pour the rest away and spend a fortnight eating codiene and benzos and sleep aids to avoid insanity.Don't want to have to pour any away,let alone 500 bastard mls.
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Shambles
Bluelight Crew
No need for apologies whatsoever, Pontifex
This is not meant to be the GBL Appreciation Thread, it's here for people to give their experience with the stuff whether it's a good experience, a bad one or a somewhere in between one. Both sides need to be discussed so anyone who may be reading this thread and considering trying GBL can make a more informed decision.
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Carsick
Bluelight Crew
If you really are incapable of not going straight through a bottle until you force yourself to either seek something to help you wd or have to taper, then I really, really, suggest giving it up for a decent length of time. Like, long enough to convince yourself that you've at least given your body a chance to recover.
My sympathies to those who are badly affected by Guice. I've never understood, personally, how one could get into a 24/7 cycle - guice just takes way too much effort for me to be able to do that. The most I've done it within a day is 3 times, and I had no need to want to do it again immediately after - I can only abuse something a few times and then need time to recover; lucky really.
I think good ol' weed is the only substance I could happily keep high on all day :D
I think good ol' weed is the only substance I could happily keep high on all day :D
brokenbrain
Bluelighter
Christ I'm all over the place.Tried to stop on Saturday and used way too much promethezine/lorazepam and woke up at 7am.Should have left it like that,but after a bath I take 1ml and then start on the cider/gin.Wake up at 1am with some serious time loss and eat benzos till 4am whereupon I have 2ml guice.Now I'm at work and doing 0.5ml every 1.5 hours.I can't stop fucking up.My aim is to have a last dose at around 6pm tonight and eat 10mg olanzapine about 8pm and then dose with benzos to get through the night.
Somehow I then need to get through Tuesday and its night.Normally I'm on the road to recovery by now,but I can't deal with this not sleeping business.
It feels like I've had 4 hours sleep in 3 days.
Godamn my shitty addict brain.
I really need to start finding serious ways of dealing with myself without alcohol and GBL.I don't know how much longer this idiocy can go on.Can't find a website that sells baclofen without me owning a credit card.I really have to try and get the substance misuse service to actually start giving me help,they've been fuck all use since last June though.
Somehow I then need to get through Tuesday and its night.Normally I'm on the road to recovery by now,but I can't deal with this not sleeping business.
It feels like I've had 4 hours sleep in 3 days.
Godamn my shitty addict brain.
I really need to start finding serious ways of dealing with myself without alcohol and GBL.I don't know how much longer this idiocy can go on.Can't find a website that sells baclofen without me owning a credit card.I really have to try and get the substance misuse service to actually start giving me help,they've been fuck all use since last June though.
brokenbrain
Bluelighter
Been on 0.5mls every 1 - 1.5hrs today,when I should have had the last dose at 7am Saturday like I planned,and should then have poured the final 11ml away.But no.1ml yesterday and alcohol = fucked sleep.Today dosing because I needed to interact with people in a normal manner.Fucking hell I hate myself.I have a few mls left and I still haven't poured that away.Taken 10mg olanzapine so hopefully shouldn't get psychotic tonight....have some benzo's left.Really,really not looking forward to bedtime though.Fucking hell,the first night is always the worst and that was saturday and then by now I should almost be able to not have to medicate.I wish I knew someone in the real world who could help me or who had been through this shit numerous times.
I really need to find a way mentally to go on a drug sabbatical.I'm trying to get back into the real work thing instead of doing voluntary jobs,and things are sort of looking ok,except for this monkey on my back.
I can't deal with AA,any time I've been I get severely depressed and withdrawn.
And my Guice abuse is totally hidden from people.At least I don't rob people or commit illegal acts to get these drugs.
Just lying in bed for 12 hours or something is too much.Its why I've never been much into stims.All my worst thoughts/memories come to get me when its 4am or thereabouts.
I almost considered buying another bottle today,but managed not to.Need to go at least 10 days without.Although really forever would be more suitable.Fucking dopamine rebound,fucking gaba-b withdrawals.Fucking brokenbrain that I have and its need for escape and all the rest.
I really need to find a way mentally to go on a drug sabbatical.I'm trying to get back into the real work thing instead of doing voluntary jobs,and things are sort of looking ok,except for this monkey on my back.
I can't deal with AA,any time I've been I get severely depressed and withdrawn.
And my Guice abuse is totally hidden from people.At least I don't rob people or commit illegal acts to get these drugs.
Just lying in bed for 12 hours or something is too much.Its why I've never been much into stims.All my worst thoughts/memories come to get me when its 4am or thereabouts.
I almost considered buying another bottle today,but managed not to.Need to go at least 10 days without.Although really forever would be more suitable.Fucking dopamine rebound,fucking gaba-b withdrawals.Fucking brokenbrain that I have and its need for escape and all the rest.
I hope everything works out ok soon Brokenbrain.
Earlier today at half-ten and half-eleven in the morning I took 1.75ml and then 1.5ml. I then had two bowls of decent weed at ten-to-two in the afternoon. After four o'clock in the late afternoon my weed high had mostly warn of and I began to feel awful. I felt extremely irritable, down, withdrawn and too sensitive to my surroundings. This feeling subsided at around nine o'clock on the night, that is quite some time to feel normal again. I promised myself and my girlfriend that I'd empty all the (small) remains of my GBL bottle down the sink, however I've just taken 2ml on an empty stomach.
Usually I drop a couple of Syndols (10/500) to prevent a come-down and it works very well. Today, however, they seemed to not work as well and didn't mask the come-down for as long as usual.
I think I only have a few millilitres left; I'll finish this off tomorrow night then won't order any more.
Are others in general agreement with me that natural highs are, by rule of thumb, 'better' for you and less dangerous? I've been buying some nice weed, I think I'd be better off sticking to that and having a break from GBL for a long while.
Earlier today at half-ten and half-eleven in the morning I took 1.75ml and then 1.5ml. I then had two bowls of decent weed at ten-to-two in the afternoon. After four o'clock in the late afternoon my weed high had mostly warn of and I began to feel awful. I felt extremely irritable, down, withdrawn and too sensitive to my surroundings. This feeling subsided at around nine o'clock on the night, that is quite some time to feel normal again. I promised myself and my girlfriend that I'd empty all the (small) remains of my GBL bottle down the sink, however I've just taken 2ml on an empty stomach.
Usually I drop a couple of Syndols (10/500) to prevent a come-down and it works very well. Today, however, they seemed to not work as well and didn't mask the come-down for as long as usual.
I think I only have a few millilitres left; I'll finish this off tomorrow night then won't order any more.
Are others in general agreement with me that natural highs are, by rule of thumb, 'better' for you and less dangerous? I've been buying some nice weed, I think I'd be better off sticking to that and having a break from GBL for a long while.
Possibly when analysed that way, 'natural' substances aren't proven to be safer, but it seems to me that no matter how much of the Sativa plant I smoke, which hasn't been concentrated in a lab or on an industrial scale, I never get any of the ... 'chemically' problems associated with others, such as GBL.
I've been taking GBL on an off, for periods of up to three or four months at a time, for over a year. I noticed that after a while, each new bottle gave a worse high than the last - my brain was adapting.
I'm at the point now where I think my brain may have adapted completely to combat any of the pleasant side-effects given by guice. It's a good job then that I ran out today.
It's strange how I have no addiction at all though. As far as my usage goes I usually take 1.75ml to 2ml twice or thrice per day. If I don't top-up within an hour or so (which I have been doing lately to my misfortune) I don't get a come-down that a couple of Codeine-containing pain-killers can't quickly solve.
Has anyone been to this point, had a long break and then tried again with a first-time-like high? I hope my brain has not changed permanently
I've been taking GBL on an off, for periods of up to three or four months at a time, for over a year. I noticed that after a while, each new bottle gave a worse high than the last - my brain was adapting.
I'm at the point now where I think my brain may have adapted completely to combat any of the pleasant side-effects given by guice. It's a good job then that I ran out today.
It's strange how I have no addiction at all though. As far as my usage goes I usually take 1.75ml to 2ml twice or thrice per day. If I don't top-up within an hour or so (which I have been doing lately to my misfortune) I don't get a come-down that a couple of Codeine-containing pain-killers can't quickly solve.
Has anyone been to this point, had a long break and then tried again with a first-time-like high? I hope my brain has not changed permanently