GBL Dilution?

[Excido]

I'm considering getting a quantity of GBL and I was doing some research. And 1ml GBL = 1.6g GHB. So say I were to hypothetically acquire say 1L. It would essentially be equiv to 1.6L of GHB 1g/1ml solution.

So if I wanted to get the GBL into a GHB equivalent ratio would I just add 600ml of dH20? or perhaps 600ml of alcohol. Would adding water cause potential contamination down the track? Or would it be better just to convert the GBL into GHB (Heard of home conversion kits, haven't looked into it really though).

 

[bighooter]

just add 1ml of gbl to a half a pint+ of orange juice and you'll be fine

 

[SyR1S]

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[Audio Terrorist]

Don't dilute it with alcohol! You WILL make yourself pass out. If you want to convert it to GHB just search on the net, it's pretty simple to do with chemicals you can buy commercially. If you are in the UK, remember that GHB is a scheduled drug whereas GBL sits in it's nice little grey area where you can legally posses it but not ingest. That would be something to consider if your a paranoid kind of person.

I once went through mild withdrawals, I had a bout of panic and got my whole drug stash and paraphernalia in a neighbor's bin only to get over the bad feelings and having to rummage through a bin to get my shit back :D

 

[drkshdw]

hi all, came across this site will doing some research on gbl. and am in need of some advice!

I have taken gbl in clubs 2 times before. but both times I was already well into a night out and had consumed a fair amount of alcohol early on (about 7-8 cans of stella) then over the next 5-6 hours consumed a couple lines of coke, maybe an alcopop an hour, with a few crystals of mdma in each, and around half a gram of ketamine. I was then given a shot of GBL in a small cap, around half the size of a shot glass. both times I got the relaxed dancy feeling, and returned to the odd key of ketamine about 1 hour after taking the gbl. however I dont know what the dosage was. (if you could tell me what it could possibly be from the size of the dose and the effects felt. that would be awesome)

I now realise what a cock I was with that combination, so wont be doing that again. (I dont do benders like that anymore anyway) but would like some help with regard to taking gbl with other substances, as im going to purchase some myself so I can control the dosage

firstly, alcohol- I know it is everywhere that you shouldnt drink and mix gbl, but i would like to know, if you do mix them, but use the correct dose of gbl. will it make you fall asleep, or just give you nausea? and secondly, is there a time after drinking, where you can then use gbl (see example above) so say, if i had 4-5 beers at a mates, then went into the club and gave it an hour, then took 1.5-2ml gbl. what are the effects likely to be? as i go to a club where gbl is used widely, and know of people that drink beforehand.

secondly, the effects of mixing with small 1-2 key doses of ketamine, spaced around an hour apart.

and finally, I have read that if you have a high tolerance to alcohol, you will have a higher tolerance to gbl. is there any truth in this? or is it more likely to do with the amount of food consumed affecting absorbtion?

many thanks.

 

[egorolling]

I doubt it. When I used to use about 10 years ago when I was working out a lot, I would drink well into the night each weekend. But during the week days in stead of drinking beer or scotch I would have a small cup of coffee in which I had about 2 spoonfuls of G in. Weird I know, but for some reason it worked real fast that way. Anyways the only time I built a tolerance was when I used GHB more often, but my drinking on the weekends never went down.

So based off of my experience I would say no your tolerance with alcohol won't be the same as with GHB unless you use it to much in a short amount of time.

I found that taking it M-W-F pretty much kept my tolerance in check and I never really had to up the dose. But I would take it every now and then if I drank to much alcohol. I know people were always saying back then that if you mixed the 2 you would go comatose but for me a small amount would pep me up for a few more hours then I would crash hard and in the morning I would have a real weak hang over that a simple cup of black coffee could handle.


Ahhh... memories
Man I wish it was easy to get here in the states again. Land of the free my @$$!!

 

[drkshdw]

cheers. would anyone know the effects of mixing with small amounts of ketamine? i can easily do a night out without drinking if needs be

 

[Cyb]

Ketamine doesn't have any form of respiratory depressant effects. I think that is the primary concern when it comes to mixing ''Substance X'' with GHB / GBL / 1,2-B. Also, Ketamine works on the NMDA receptor system, while the G's work on GABA. This means the effects of the two drugs will be coexistant, as opposed to synergistic, if that makes any sense.

Be aware, though, that I say this with no references and admit to having no formal education in the subject at hand.

 

[Lawrence]

The only thing I hate from GHB/GBL is the muscle fuckness....

I explain myself, I hold a 0,5% beer since ethanol isnt good with GHB!(I want to look like the others who drink beer. I just remove the tag from the beer. Thats my technique) and my muscle from my twist ,exemple, release sudenly and my bear drop or almost felt! That happen from mild dose (1.7ml+) GBL. I prefer dose of 1.5ML and less now.

DO its just me this appen ?
Do someone know why, Alcohol don't do that. Both work on GABA ?
Do GBL dilate you pupils, mine yes (WHY if you know) ?

Sorry if Im out subject but those question was running in my head.


Also, watch out to dont confuse your REAL OJ with your GBL OJ and remember your ratio. For myself I dont mix all in one shot. I take 2 shots: {One of 150ml + 1.5ml }, {2ng 50ml of pure oj} Drink the first fast dont breath then take the 50ML of OJ and dont have the bad taste !

Also if you use it for all the night I cant sleep if I not dose, pop a Xanax or a Valium after the effects are gone. I think dopamine build up in your system.

 

[Mr Blonde]

firstly, alcohol- I know it is everywhere that you shouldnt drink and mix gbl, but i would like to know, if you do mix them, but use the correct dose of gbl. will it make you fall asleep, or just give you nausea? and secondly, is there a time after drinking, where you can then use gbl (see example above) so say, if i had 4-5 beers at a mates, then went into the club and gave it an hour, then took 1.5-2ml gbl. what are the effects likely to be? as i go to a club where gbl is used widely, and know of people that drink beforehand.

If you use the correct dose (and remember there is a fine line between dosing right and OD'ing) and combine with alcohol you will probably find yourself more likely to fall asleep and suffer from nausea. I would be careful if you do this, take it slow and work up to where you want to be.

Regarding how long to wait, it depends on how quickly you have consumed the alcohol previously. 1 hour after finishing your last drink and having drunk all 5 drinks quickly is probably too soon to dose.

and finally, I have read that if you have a high tolerance to alcohol, you will have a higher tolerance to gbl. is there any truth in this? or is it more likely to do with the amount of food consumed affecting absorbtion?

No, it is true that a tolerance to alcohol will give you a tolerance to GBL. They are both substances that act on GABA receptors; any GABA-ergic substance you have a tolerance to will affect GBL (e.g. benzodiazepines, barbiturates etc...).

ETA: Lawrence please stop hijacking people's threads and so some of your own research.

DO its just me this appen ?
Do someone know why, Alcohol don't do that. Both work on GABA ?
Do GBL dilate you pupils, mine yes (WHY if you know) ?

1) Well I can't even understand your post. I don't know what happened to you or if anyone else has suffered from it. You need to be more clear.

2) Yes they both work on GABA, alcohol also does a lot of other things to the brain though like acting on nicotinic receptors, NMDA receptors in higher doses, ion channels and effects on dopamine and endorphin levels.

3) GBL causes pupil constriction, but there are reports from users on sites like this that sometimes it causes their pupils to dilate, I think this is uncommon. Dilation is often due to your body's flight or fight response wanting to allow you to take in more light and see better; constriction is to reduce the level of light coming in to the eye.

 

[drkshdw]

thanks for the info mr blonde.

info from my night:

I went out and started with a 2ml dose (GBL) about 9pm at a friends, and in total consumed 7ml over the course of the night (which went friends house, to a bar, to a club) i was redosing 1ml at a time, mixing into around 100ml cold water and drinking like a shot, then just having a juice as my normal drink. I found at first i would need to wait around 75-90 minutes between doses, but as the night went on this fell to around 50-60 minutes, with less effect. I had 3 bottles of 5.2% lager, spaced about an hour and a half apart, starting at 11pm. 30 minutes after the last of which I started to feel hot and dizzy, and was almost sick, but did not feel sleepy.

 

[paradro|d]

[/TIMMY] i've had a can of 500ml 9%kestrel beer and 8 5% 275 275ml beer and light meal got guests over doin my head in and an 8.50am job interview i'ma drink 3.4ml gbl after me cake. opefully ill wake upp with kurt and janis wuth a big ass speedball abd a korean chiick 2 suck my cock. most likey wake up with head ache and rain.
fuck u krishna make me a parrot. messssage.